Clyde on Melo: "Will he ask out?"

[Fat Kat]

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Grasshoppa gettin' his zen on....

Melo's completing his reading assignments.

[BKlutch]

Anyone who tells me right now Melo is loyal to New York and would rather fail here than win a ring with LA, Miami, San Antonio, or Cleveland... I have to question how well you have been paying attention to Melo and his decision making process over the years. Mind you I am a fan of his as a player, and I don't even fault him for wanting to get paid. It isn't about that it is about understanding the man, he wants to get paid, he wants prestige, he wants respect, he wants to be known as one of the all time greats, and he wants to win.

Could Melo win in NY? Maybe, but it won't be this year. The year after? Phil better have a lot more Zen up his sleeve, and I have faith in him but in my opinion it is a journey that will take some time and Melo at 35 doesn't seem to me like a guy you win a ring with as your star player. Can he defer to other stars like Kris? Will Kris ever be a star? Meh... again I can't see the future, so I won't speak in the absolute terms you are using in your post but I can say I completely and emphatically disagree with you.

I don't doubt that Melo would take a trade for a ring. I do have doubts that Melo would waive his clause for a deal that would be beneficial enough to us to trade him. What are the Spurs, Miami, Cleveland and LA giving up to get him? Because it has to be good enough to entice the Knicks and it has to be bad enough that the team receiving Melo remains a championship lock or close to it. Melo is measured about his interests for sure and waiving the clause to get eliminated in the second round would be more damaging to his brand than staying in NY and never winning ring. Phil meanwhile has proven stubborn and head strong enough that he won't be bullied into making a move he doesn't approve of. Then you have to add the other franchise into the mix and what they're actually willing to deal for Melo. Close out with the fact that they'll have to make salaries match also and I'd say it's unlikely that everything falls into place to make a deal happen.

To simplify it to the extreme though; my belief is that if we're a bad enough team that Melo wants out, his value will be extremely low. If Melo is playing well enough that teams are making offers we can't refuse, then in all likelihood the team will be good enough that he won't ask out.

Well said, and I agree. In 3 - 4 years, Melo will be the veteran shooter who can help a team that needs scoring off the bench. At that time, he may sign a new contract with another team. Before then, let's see how good we can become. If we are good enough, he may want to stay here. If we're not good enough by then, we won't want him either. I'd be really surprised to see a trade during his contract.

So if he's on our team, let's not trash him in advance because he may want to leave. He didn't tell this to Clyde, this was just Clyde's thinking about things and talking too much. Let's enjoy Melo's shooting and see how much the rest of our team has improved this year.

[TheBigBoss]

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Me7o thinking hard about dropping that no trade clause

[E-Balla]

https://www.facebook.com/CarmeloAnthony/videos/843615242389064/

And he's bumping Rite Where U Stand too? That jumper was looking back to regular.

[Bill Pidto]

This dude Melo is in shape.

[Triple C]

http://dailyknicks.com/2015/08/05/carmelo-anthony-practicing-triangle-offense-video/

[2Mas]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

[Dollar]

Haven't read the previous 11 pages but when this came out the other day,my initial reaction was a little shocked because Clyde normally tries to avoid anything truly controversial w/the Knicks. So I immediately thought that Clyde was acting as Phil's surrogate in dispersing this theory. Now if this squad comes together this season,it might be a moot point but now publicly the idea has been floated as to allow Melo to broach the subject if we don't play well this season. I never thought that Phil wanted to bring Melo back but it was the smart business decision to bring back an asset. Now, perhaps he's using Clyde to nudge Melo closer to the door?

[King of Canada]

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Grasshoppa gettin' his zen on....

Melo's completing his reading assignments.

Melo looking like a Blood

[Deeeez Knicks]

https://www.facebook.com/CarmeloAnthony/videos/843615242389064/

dude working on triangle based motions to get shots and he doesn't wanna be here

Yup he clearly doesn't want to be here lol he's practicing the triangle to play some where else !

Melo's practicing the triangle, Phil just brought in a bunch of pieces that fit around him...they are are def going to at least try to build around Melo. Thats been the plan.

[stuporman]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

You get -

[GYK]

Pretty good one
On Melo being to good of guy. Going along with everything. No off court foibles. No quotes at pressers that get attention.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2534669-carmelo-anthony-must-trust-ny-knicks-rebuild-phil-jacksonfor-now

Better than the shock shlock churned out by the usual suspects. I enjoyed it.

Not sure what you're saying

[GONYK]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

Boston isn't getting Melo to waive his NTC

[stuporman]

Pretty good one
On Melo being to good of guy. Going along with everything. No off court foibles. No quotes at pressers that get attention.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2534669-carmelo-anthony-must-trust-ny-knicks-rebuild-phil-jacksonfor-now

Better than the shock shlock churned out by the usual suspects. I enjoyed it.

Not sure what you're saying

That it wasn't the type of click bait pieces that the typical writers covering the Knicks and NBA put out. I didn't think what I said was all that cryptic.

[BKlutch]

Better than the shock shlock churned out by the usual suspects. I enjoyed it.

Not sure what you're saying

That it wasn't the type of click bait pieces that the typical writers covering the Knicks and NBA put out. I didn't think what I said was all that cryptic.

Bleacherreport has two types of articles: 1. Their typical old one, which makes you click 10 times, but tells you nothing 2. A more well thought out piece written by somebody who knows what they're saying, and is all on one page.

This was a rare example of the second one.

[stuporman]

Not sure what you're saying

That it wasn't the type of click bait pieces that the typical writers covering the Knicks and NBA put out. I didn't think what I said was all that cryptic.

Bleacherreport has two types of articles: 1. Their typical old one, which makes you click 10 times, but tells you nothing 2. A more well thought out piece written by somebody who knows what they're saying, and is all on one page.

This was a rare example of the second one.

Oh sure, I read plenty of the cliche riddled mindless tripe on there that makes you realize it's only a fan written piece from someone hoping to get noticed and then there is the ones that have something insightful or interesting to offer.

[Thorn]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

Do you really think he would waive the NTC for Boston? How close do you feel you are to competing after trading away assets for Melo? Can you provide an example of a trade you think would work?

[2Mas]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

Do you really think he would waive the NTC for Boston? How close do you feel you are to competing after trading away assets for Melo? Can you provide an example of a trade you think would work?

Realistically Bostons looking at a little above .500 team this year. Like 45-37 type season. Based on the 2nd half, & internal development, adding 5 more wins to last record isn't crazy. We're 3 deep at every position. If you take DLee & 2-3 of our best young prospects, we're not lacking in depth (well marginally), & add Melo, we're a 50 win team.

We have that same "ATL' type system of good role players that lack that star power, but with Melo we'd have that. I'm not saying we'd be a real contender, but I'm saying if we get Melo, win 50 games, get bounced 2nd round & have 20+m to throw FA's this year, while still developing, Boston could contend as soon as 16-17.

[Fury]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

Do you really think he would waive the NTC for Boston? How close do you feel you are to competing after trading away assets for Melo? Can you provide an example of a trade you think would work?

Realistically Bostons looking at a little above .500 team this year. Like 45-37 type season. Based on the 2nd half, & internal development, adding 5 more wins to last record isn't crazy. We're 3 deep at every position. If you take DLee & 2-3 of our best young prospects, we're not lacking in depth (well marginally), & add Melo, we're a 50 win team.

We have that same "ATL' type system of good role players that lack that star power, but with Melo we'd have that. I'm not saying we'd be a real contender, but I'm saying if we get Melo, win 50 games, get bounced 2nd round & have 20+m to throw FA's this year, while still developing, Boston could contend as soon as 16-17.

Wait what you're for real?

[GONYK]

Boston gets - Melo

New York gets - DLee's exp & whatever else you want. (reasonable of course).

Almost no one has the assets that Boston has that is also good enough for Melo to waive his NTC. He's not gonna do it for Philly. He's gonna waive his NTC for Utah? Minny's not in a rush to get good this year. Maybe Orlando? They have the players, but not the future assets.

Do you really think he would waive the NTC for Boston? How close do you feel you are to competing after trading away assets for Melo? Can you provide an example of a trade you think would work?

Realistically Bostons looking at a little above .500 team this year. Like 45-37 type season. Based on the 2nd half, & internal development, adding 5 more wins to last record isn't crazy. We're 3 deep at every position. If you take DLee & 2-3 of our best young prospects, we're not lacking in depth (well marginally), & add Melo, we're a 50 win team.

We have that same "ATL' type system of good role players that lack that star power, but with Melo we'd have that. I'm not saying we'd be a real contender, but I'm saying if we get Melo, win 50 games, get bounced 2nd round & have 20+m to throw FA's this year, while still developing, Boston could contend as soon as 16-17.

Your market is too small and you will be trading more of those assets than you think if you want Melo.

I don't know why Melo would trade the #1 market for the #11 to still not win anything of significance.