OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[Jeffrey]

Someone please tell me what are his policies are? He doesn't even talk about his policies. We don't even know. It's all insults and threatening to sue people.

Trump supporters can't even answer this question...

"Make America great again!". When was America great? Can you tell me a decade? an era? a damn century?! Did you live during that time?

[thebuzzardman]

For years people have been getting rich off our governent. Politicians come into congress, senate, and legislatures poor and come out rich.
Big business has got out of hand.

You would think trump IS big business? Not correct. He's simply a rich guy who made money by having money. The most impressive thing is: he didn't spend it all. Your taking about a guy who owns his own airplane, but somehow his wealth grows. We aren't talking about Allen Iverson here. The man knows how to protect and investment.

So why did I ask if trump was big business?

Big businesses are killing this country. Every soda, every cigarette, every crappy government weapons contract, every pharmaceutical pill, every seed that's gets genetically modified. These are the interests our government is based on. These are the problems we face. Not a wall being built.

Donald Trump has a big mouth but doesn't have an agenda. He's a real estate guy, a business man, and just what this country needs at this time. Ill choose this guy over pharmaceutical company-seed changing duesch any day.

I can't wait till trump gets elected and helps out all of you doubters, that is those of you who choose to work. When you can finally afford to live in a nice house on a decent salary, post back in this thread. I'd love to hear I was right about this.

You are right, special interests are killing this country. But yet somehow Trump has convinced you he is not one of the elite, just by making vague populist declarations, some of them pretty low rent. Trump is the rich kid of a rich guy. He'll get into Washington and play ball with all the same interests who have been doing things the same way for years.

He's running a classic campaign, in a sense. When people are really pissed at the government, portray yourself as "an outsider" Remember Obama's first campaign? Even though he was a senator, there was a lot of emphasis on his "newness" - that was to portray him as somehow different from the same old same old, even though by and large he's behaved in a lot of the same ways; maybe that's reality in terms of how hard it is to change things, but still true.

For years politics has been getting more and more simpleminded in the US, with soundbite commercials/attack ads.
Trump has just made that his entire campaign. It's brilliant and also incredibly depressing.

[IllmaticHandler]

This video will end all the BS "defense" about the Atmosphere Trump is brewing. The only ones that deny what he saying, and the that his words are not increasing the hatred of this country, I would suspect are intune with his type of thinking on others. I dont expect those type of people to see the problem with this atmosphere he is creating. This must be the "great" America that they want. But Of course, why should I see Trump as being racist ...to many white dudes in here, he is just being Honest right?..... Im done with this thread. This news cast says it all and its good to see others in national media, who see the racism being spewed by him.


Im sure this is one of the many consequences he keeps asking for, for those who "protest" like in the "oldtimes" he keeps talking about.








[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ[/youtube]

[thebuzzardman]

Here's a bit on Trump's crony capitalism, which admittedly isn't a ton, but his hands are far from clean. Plus, a good comment on Republicans being "free market".

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/opinion/campaign-stops/donald-trump-crony-capitalist.html

Teddy Roosevelt, where are you now that your country needs you?

[Cr0w]

Someone please tell me what are his policies are? He doesn't even talk about his policies. We don't even know. It's all insults and threatening to sue people.

Trump supporters can't even answer this question...

"Make America great again!". When was America great? Can you tell me a decade? an era? a damn century?! Did you live during that time?

That's because you're most likely a media drone who is buying into the ruckus the media is manufacturing about Trump.

Anti illegal immigration is one of his major stances.

[thebuzzardman]

This video will end all the BS "defense" about the Atmosphere Trump is brewing. The only ones that deny what he saying, and the that his words are not increasing the hatred of this country, I would suspect are intune with his type of thinking on others. I dont expect those type of people to see the problem with this atmosphere he is creating. This must be the "great" America that they want. But Of course, why should I see Trump as being racist ...to many white dudes in here, he is just being Honest right?..... Im done with this thread. This news cast says it all and its good to see others in national media, who see the racism being spewed by him.


Im sure this is one of the many consequences he keeps asking for, for those who "protest" like in the "oldtimes" he keeps talking about.








[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ[/youtube]

Obviously, the racism is there. It was interesting to see him pander to his base by telling protesters in St Louis, "Go home to mommy and get a job", portraying the protesters as out of touch college kids.

That being said, Trumps an ahole, but the protesters who disrupt his rally (not the ones who just sit there with counter signs), but who yell out etc, well that is negative discourse as well, and gives Trump a boost by letting him "talk tough" about it.

Trumps the greater wrong, but some of those protesters are exactly in the right either. I'm referring to the ones that disrupt his speeches.

[thebuzzardman]

This video will end all the BS "defense" about the Atmosphere Trump is brewing. The only ones that deny what he saying, and the that his words are not increasing the hatred of this country, I would suspect are intune with his type of thinking on others. I dont expect those type of people to see the problem with this atmosphere he is creating. This must be the "great" America that they want. But Of course, why should I see Trump as being racist ...to many white dudes in here, he is just being Honest right?..... Im done with this thread. This news cast says it all and its good to see others in national media, who see the racism being spewed by him.


Im sure this is one of the many consequences he keeps asking for, for those who "protest" like in the "oldtimes" he keeps talking about.








[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ[/youtube]

Obviously, the racism is there. It was interesting to see him pander to his base by telling protesters in St Louis, "Go home to mommy and get a job", portraying the protesters as out of touch college kids.

That being said, Trumps an ahole, but the protesters who disrupt his rally (not the ones who just sit there with counter signs), but who yell out etc, well that is negative discourse as well, and gives Trump a boost by letting him "talk tough" about it.

Trumps the greater wrong, but some of those protesters are exactly in the right either. I'm referring to the ones that disrupt his speeches.

Wow, didn't see your b&w picture before I replied. Yup, it's sad; Trump may be alluding to that. He may be referring the Chicago 68 riots, where college students got a good assbeating for exercising their right to assemble. At the least, he referring to the times when cops would rough people up, of all races, and there wasn't any complaining (rightly) about it. Of course since minorities get those beating disproportionately....

[Cr0w]

Trump is the GOAT. He's going to make America great again dealing with one whiney entitled BLM or college aged Bernie supporter at a time.

If Donald Trump upsets you, you might need to check your man card.

[Smash3]

For years people have been getting rich off our governent. Politicians come into congress, senate, and legislatures poor and come out rich.
Big business has got out of hand.

You would think trump IS big business? Not correct. He's simply a rich guy who made money by having money. The most impressive thing is: he didn't spend it all. Your taking about a guy who owns his own airplane, but somehow his wealth grows. We aren't talking about Allen Iverson here. The man knows how to protect and investment.

So why did I ask if trump was big business?

Big businesses are killing this country. Every soda, every cigarette, every crappy government weapons contract, every pharmaceutical pill, every seed that's gets genetically modified. These are the interests our government is based on. These are the problems we face. Not a wall being built.

Donald Trump has a big mouth but doesn't have an agenda. He's a real estate guy, a business man, and just what this country needs at this time. Ill choose this guy over pharmaceutical company-seed changing duesch any day.

I can't wait till trump gets elected and helps out all of you doubters, that is those of you who choose to work. When you can finally afford to live in a nice house on a decent salary, post back in this thread. I'd love to hear I was right about this.

You are right, special interests are killing this country. But yet somehow Trump has convinced you he is not one of the elite, just by making vague populist declarations, some of them pretty low rent. Trump is the rich kid of a rich guy. He'll get into Washington and play ball with all the same interests who have been doing things the same way for years.

He's running a classic campaign, in a sense. When people are really pissed at the government, portray yourself as "an outsider" Remember Obama's first campaign? Even though he was a senator, there was a lot of emphasis on his "newness" - that was to portray him as somehow different from the same old same old, even though by and large he's behaved in a lot of the same ways; maybe that's reality in terms of how hard it is to change things, but still true.

For years politics has been getting more and more simpleminded in the US, with soundbite commercials/attack ads.
Trump has just made that his entire campaign. It's brilliant and also incredibly depressing.

Exactly, Drumpf has been dealing with people in Big Business for the majority of his adult life, for people to think that if he enters the white house he will tell them: "no more! I am doing this for the people now" is hilarious

[AndroidMan]

Exactly, Drumpf has been dealing with people in Big Business for the majority of his adult life, for people to think that if he enters the white house he will tell them: "no more! I am doing this for the people now" is hilarious

Not that I care one way or the other, nor do I have a preferential candidate, but to provide some context, Trump may have many business connections, but his campaign isn't beholden to those business interests. In fact those business interests are lobbying to have him not win. Quite a remarkable difference between those other candidates which are heavily supported and funded via the likes of Goldman Sachs.

To further address the latter point, Trump is an egoist and is in it for himself. If the electorate can't see that, than that's their problem. Either way, if he's terrible as a President he'll likely be impeached and the country can absolve itself and wash it's hands clean.

[Ignitowsky]

I'm Latino and I like trump.

You DO realize that the phrase "make America great again" is code for make America WHITE again?

I love it when people want to help you change a decision you made because they KNOW FOR FACT and you're just too stupid to understand they are right. I get why they do it tho. Because the minute one of their paranoid induced straw men gets exposed there's nothing left.

Person A: Trump absolutely is a racist who hates Blacks.
Person B: I'm black and I fully support Trump.
Person A: I don't think you understand. Trump doesn't like you.
Person B: I don't believe that which is why I support him.
Person A: Listen, I need you to understand me or this whole thing doesn't work - "Trump doesn't like people who aren't white"
Person B: I...heard...you and I disagree. I support him.
Person A: You's a fukkin Uncle Tom.

My post was intended to make a point, not change a mind. The only straw man that has been created so far was in your response

[Dr. Detfink]

The reason why many supported Trump was not because of the trash he talked but rather, he was anti-establishment and would've attacked what many find unfair...if you're an elected official and you serve 2 years, you get to retire with FULL pension and top of the line health care. That's true for EVERY politician on Capital Hill. Trump would be instrumental in shaking that up...if you believe so.

Problem being Trump doesn't know how to quit when he's ahead. He looks at the Presidency as the CEO but this is not private industry. I think he got a GOOD wake up call.

I respectfully disagree with the Preident, the GOP didn't make Trump...the media made Trump. He's instant ratings. Notice Trump doesn't have to spend his own money in getting his face out there.

He's going to get his butt kicked when Hilary is elected but I wouldn't say that's the best choice for the country either...but she won't cause people to riot.

[kinein]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Um no. The way he refers to non whites is racism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGg9jKs6KdA

Diamond and Silk, should check out their vlog! Democrats (former) whom have switched parties to vote for Trump.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGg9jKs6KdA[/youtube]

Good speech, eye-opening.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCHZbB-M9oE[/youtube]

[Sprewell4Three]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI[/youtube]

^If we got this version of Donald Trump, I don't think there would be as much hate towards him. There still be that some that will disagree with him but his demeanor here seems more cerebral and calm.

[Cr0w]

I wouldn't count Lord Trump out of the general either. People have been underestimating him since the very beginning saying he'll only last a few weeks.

I'd say if Trump and Hillary debate and Trump makes a joke about her that the whole public laughs at, you might be looking at President Trump soon.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I wouldn't count Lord Trump out of the general either. People have been underestimating him since the very beginning saying he'll only last a few weeks.

I'd say if Trump and Hillary debate and Trump makes a joke about her that the whole public laughs at, you might be looking at President Trump soon.

You've got to be kidding me? Lord Trump? Smh...

All Trump is good for is dumb jokes and acting like a clown during debates anyways

[Cr0w]

I wouldn't count Lord Trump out of the general either. People have been underestimating him since the very beginning saying he'll only last a few weeks.

I'd say if Trump and Hillary debate and Trump makes a joke about her that the whole public laughs at, you might be looking at President Trump soon.

You've got to be kidding me? Lord Trump? Smh...

All Trump is good for is dumb jokes and acting like a clown during debates anyways

He's an ok guy. I like that he doesn't bow down to special interest groups, especially the social ones that are vomit worthy. He's a good business man and I like that in a leader. I love that he wants to overhaul our immigration system.

Hillary Clinton is also one of the most corrupt politicians of all time. So even if you don't like Trump, I think you gotta do some soul searching if you're willing to vote for her.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I wouldn't count Lord Trump out of the general either. People have been underestimating him since the very beginning saying he'll only last a few weeks.

I'd say if Trump and Hillary debate and Trump makes a joke about her that the whole public laughs at, you might be looking at President Trump soon.

You've got to be kidding me? Lord Trump? Smh...

All Trump is good for is dumb jokes and acting like a clown during debates anyways

He's an ok guy. I like that he doesn't bow down to special interest groups, especially the social ones that are vomit worthy. He's a good business man and I like that in a leader. I love that he wants to overhaul our immigration system.

Hillary Clinton is also one of the most corrupt politicians of all time. So even if you don't like Trump, I think you gotta do some soul searching if you're willing to vote for her.

I don't like Hillary that much either. Both of them aren't good candidates for the presidency in my eyes. Trump is a clown to me, and his toxic rhetoric is dangerous

[Sprewell4Three]

You've got to be kidding me? Lord Trump? Smh...

All Trump is good for is dumb jokes and acting like a clown during debates anyways

He's an ok guy. I like that he doesn't bow down to special interest groups, especially the social ones that are vomit worthy. He's a good business man and I like that in a leader. I love that he wants to overhaul our immigration system.

Hillary Clinton is also one of the most corrupt politicians of all time. So even if you don't like Trump, I think you gotta do some soul searching if you're willing to vote for her.

I don't like Hillary that much either. Both of them aren't good candidates for the presidency in my eyes. Trump is a clown to me, and his toxic rhetoric is dangerous

Trump does say alot of eye raising comments but clown he is not. You don't become a multi-billionaire being a clown.

[Iron Mantis]

I don't lend a vote of confidence to any man/woman politicians. As an observer, though, it's evident Trump will not be in the white house. He seems to be placed as a clever distraction more than anything.

Prepare to see that crazy, CRAZY woman take the reins.