Porzingis thread #4: The KP era is upon us

[Milk]

LeBron liked IG highlight videos of KP's crossover today.



Matt Barnes also commented this in one of the crossover IG vids:



Nice to see him liked/respected by the rest of the league.

Video links:

Spoiler:

[HEZI]

LeBron liked IG highlight videos of KP's crossover today.



Matt Barnes also commented this in one of the crossover IG vids:



Nice to see him liked/respected by the rest of the league.

Video links:

Spoiler:

Lebron to NY 2018 confirmed

[F N 11]

A lot of times we forget KP is 7'3 we have to understand we are witnessing some legendary chit with what he's able to do.

[Juco24]

I'm still not completely sold that he'll be as good as many think... he still hasn't shown he can post up a smaller player (ala Smart), he hasn't shown he can make others around him better, can he handle constant double teams? For me, the jury is still out and it will be VERY interesting to see how he handles being The Man.

[waya]

LeBron liked IG highlight videos of KP's crossover today.



Matt Barnes also commented this in one of the crossover IG vids:



Nice to see him liked/respected by the rest of the league.

Video links:

Spoiler:

Lebron to NY 2018 confirmed

Oh schit im getting ptsd flashbacks

Watch on YouTube

/s

[ChaosHamster]

I'm still not completely sold that he'll be as good as many think... he still hasn't shown he can post up a smaller player (ala Smart), he hasn't shown he can make others around him better, can he handle constant double teams? For me, the jury is still out and it will be VERY interesting to see how he handles being The Man.

Fours are usually smaller, I can shoot over them easier.

KP

[JXL]

I'm still not completely sold that he'll be as good as many think... he still hasn't shown he can post up a smaller player (ala Smart), he hasn't shown he can make others around him better, can he handle constant double teams? For me, the jury is still out and it will be VERY interesting to see how he handles being The Man.

Fours are usually smaller, I can shoot over them easier.

KP

He doesn't muscle up vs. small ball 4s anyway when they can easily take away his momentum. If he truly worked on his core this season, he would make every shot in the post easily.

[ChaosHamster]

I'm still not completely sold that he'll be as good as many think... he still hasn't shown he can post up a smaller player (ala Smart), he hasn't shown he can make others around him better, can he handle constant double teams? For me, the jury is still out and it will be VERY interesting to see how he handles being The Man.

Fours are usually smaller, I can shoot over them easier.

KP

He doesn't muscle up vs. small ball 4s anyway when they can easily take away his momentum. If he truly worked on his core this season, he would make every shot in the post easily.

Well, I think he definitely made some progress. If you re-watch last game, he did back, I think it was Acy down in the post, without a ball, but still, its a progress. Also, I liked how he used his body against Lin, just banked him in the chest, and got a little more space for a shot.

He got stronger. Probably not by much, but the most important thing is to preserve his mobility.

I was complaining how I didn't saw him dribble/drive as much in Eurobasket. We saw so many clips from him working on his handles.. but he doesn't seem to use them much.

Yesterday he tried to drive a lot, that's a good sign.

Posting up will be a 3rd option for KP. After just straight up shooting or driving. You have to accept that.

[JXL]

KP

He doesn't muscle up vs. small ball 4s anyway when they can easily take away his momentum. If he truly worked on his core this season, he would make every shot in the post easily.

Well, I think he definitely made some progress. If you re-watch last game, he did back, I think it was Acy down in the post, without a ball, but still, its a progress. Also, I liked how he used his body against Lin, just banked him in the chest, and got a little more space for a shot.

He got stronger. Probably not by much, but the most important thing is to preserve his mobility.

I was complaining how I didn't saw him dribble/drive as much in Eurobasket. We saw so many clips from him working on his handles.. but he doesn't seem to use them much.

Yesterday he tried to drive a lot, that's a good sign.

Posting up will be a 3rd option for KP. After just straight up shooting or driving. You have to accept that.

I know. It would be great if he can be the lethal PnR finisher that he is, as well as a deadly PnP shooter. Post-up shooting should be low on his list. In Horny's offense, his transition game should improve.

[MrOrange]

I'm still not completely sold that he'll be as good as many think... he still hasn't shown he can post up a smaller player (ala Smart), he hasn't shown he can make others around him better, can he handle constant double teams? For me, the jury is still out and it will be VERY interesting to see how he handles being The Man.

Time will tell. I somehow think that time is on KP's side

[Wolfgang630]

Knicks fans continue to underestimate KP...what's new? You haven't had **** in decades from the draft and some will continue to downplay KP because I guess they're so used to having trash draft picks.

You already see it being done to Frank after one game! Some really annoying ass ungrateful Knicks fans.

[Sark]

Knicks fans continue to underestimate KP...what's new? You haven't had **** in decades from the draft and some will continue to downplay KP because I guess they're so used to having trash draft picks.

You already see it being done to Frank after one game! Some really annoying ass ungrateful Knicks fans.

If the Knicks drafted Michael Jordan, they would complain that he can't shoot 3's, and call him flawed.

[Juco24]

Could it be possible that some Knicks fans OVERestimate KP? I like KP I really do but while some have donned him as king of New York I still see a player in need of much improvement on both ends of the floor and that's being realistic. Switching him to C would help tremendously but he doesn't want that. MORE than anything I want to see him make his teammates better, he hasn't shown that in a Knicks uni and anyone saying he has is flat out wrong!

[Knicks Byke]

Could it be possible that some Knicks fans OVERestimate KP? I like KP I really do but while some have donned him as king of New York I still see a player in need of much improvement on both ends of the floor and that's being realistic. Switching him to C would help tremendously but he doesn't want that. MORE than anything I want to see him make his teammates better, he hasn't shown that in a Knicks uni and anyone saying he has is flat out wrong!

potassium.

[Thugger HBC]

KP is certainly the Knicks best player, but while KP is really talented, imo he isn't the generational type that can will any cast of teammates into something meaningful, and there's nothing wrong with that.

KP is entering his 3rd year, he has to be able to transform his own game to the next level before any chance of his impact rubbing off on his teammates.

There is still quite a bit of growing into his own for KP, but he has shown he can be a terrific player for years to come while that growth process continues.

[ChaosHamster]

Could it be possible that some Knicks fans OVERestimate KP? I like KP I really do but while some have donned him as king of New York I still see a player in need of much improvement on both ends of the floor and that's being realistic. Switching him to C would help tremendously but he doesn't want that. MORE than anything I want to see him make his teammates better, he hasn't shown that in a Knicks uni and anyone saying he has is flat out wrong!

Show me someone who overestimates KP in a sense he thinks he doesn't need improvements on both sides of the floor?

No one thinks that.

C situation is pretty simple. He doesn't want to play there yet, and even if he wanted, team has freaking four centers.

And about "make his teammates better", I suppose you mean you want him to make good passes? He doesn't have it, occasionally in one of 20 games he makes a pretty bounce pass, or I like how fast he tries to get the ball out to his PG, or just up the court when he gets an defensive rebound, but that's it. Nothing so far tells us he is gonna be a good passer. He might end up being. Who knows. But he has other good qualities and he is working on them.

[NoLayupRule]

KP is certainly the Knicks best player, but while KP is really talented, imo he isn't the generational type that can will any cast of teammates into something meaningful, and there's nothing wrong with that.

KP is entering his 3rd year, he has to be able to transform his own game to the next level before any chance of his impact rubbing off on his teammates.

There is still quite a bit of growing into his own for KP, but he has shown he can be a terrific player for years to come while that growth process continues.

the only thing limiting KP is his own heart

and some of the players he's surrounded with

KP is exceptional but is he better than Towns, Davis, etc?


Only time will tell and only KP can maximize his talent

MJ was the best example of what can be

MJ was a superb talent who actually overachieved!
He was at his best when the most was on the line, when it was hardest, when he had to carry the biggest load

KP doesn't show that level of drive but then again I dont think anyone out there in todays NBA does. Perhaps Westbrook?

Time will show KP's ceiling

the teams job is to build around him so when and if he reaches that ceiling, like they did in dallas with dirk, they have the team around him to win a title

[Sark]

People acting like 1 summer in the gym is gonna make someone stronger. It takes years of work to develop the strength that you expecting. Probably another 2 years before he is able to dominate space with his size/strength.

[GONYK]

People acting like 1 summer in the gym is gonna make someone stronger. It takes years of work to develop the strength that you expecting. Probably another 2 years before he is able to dominate space with his size/strength.

2 years? By then he'll be 24! Basically on the downside of his career.

[AllanHoustonFan]

LeBron liked IG highlight videos of KP's crossover today.



Matt Barnes also commented this in one of the crossover IG vids:



Nice to see him liked/respected by the rest of the league.

Video links:

Spoiler:

Lebron to NY 2018 confirmed

Oh schit im getting ptsd flashbacks

Watch on YouTube

/s