2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it?

[Tron Carter]

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Here is a little behind of the scenes of the friendship between KD and DJ. They go on vacation together lol

Bump that.
What’s more telling to me is that KD has a Wu-tang tat AND a Dipset tat. What’s more NY than that?

Dave East is also one of his best friends and former teammate too

Hes also a huge battle rap fan. Hes gone to some URL battles in Ny

Dave been recruiting harden and KD this whole time

[Tron Carter]

nobody on the pels played defense except jrue holiday and anthony davis. sure, let’s give him a pass.

he had the ball in his hands a lot and put up big numbers. he’s not somebody really worth signing.

Spoiler:

But as far as Randle goes, he is a gifted offensive player, really versatile but oh man is his defense awful. Like it's old man Lebron level, dude would just stand and watch, refused to close out on shooters, refused to even look like he was trying to do anything on defense. He was bad like really bad. I can imagine the Pels coaching staff being frustrated with him to the point that they wouldn't mind seeing him just walk away

no shot the pels pick up that option. only reason why he’d even be an option for us. that should tell you something.

who’s the guy in the spoiler. I’m assuming unheralded pels role player who plays defense but I’m unfamiliar.

[Thugger HBC]

I like Brogdon. He'd be an awesome third guy, but it would cost the 2nd slot, and still no guarantees.

[HEZI]

nobody on the pels played defense except jrue holiday and anthony davis. sure, let’s give him a pass.

he had the ball in his hands a lot and put up big numbers. he’s not somebody really worth signing.

Spoiler:

But as far as Randle goes, he is a gifted offensive player, really versatile but oh man is his defense awful. Like it's old man Lebron level, dude would just stand and watch, refused to close out on shooters, refused to even look like he was trying to do anything on defense. He was bad like really bad. I can imagine the Pels coaching staff being frustrated with him to the point that they wouldn't mind seeing him just walk away

who’s the guy in the spoiler. I’m assuming unheralded pels role player who plays defense but I’m unfamiliar.

Kenrich Williams aka Kenny Hustle. Yeah pretty much, 3/D role player but needs to become more consistent with the 3 part . Overall good solid role player who I assume the Pels will look to keep. If they were smart they would also keep Christian Wood, he's the prototypical big to have next to Zion.

[Richard4444]

If Brooklyn plan on keeping DLO and want to sign Kyrie, they’ll have to trade Crabbe without taking on salary which may require a first rd pick. That leaves them with only 1 frp ... that’s not enough for an AD trade.

Here’s my question, someone help me out. DLO cap hold is 21 mil but if someone offers him a contract right out the gate, the nets have 3 days to match right?

So will signing DLO first stop then from signing any max FA? Unless they trade away some of their core players?

I think Nets and DLo have a deal like we thougt we did with KP. Dlo wouldl not accept any offer sheet until the ending of FA signing. Then Nets will Max Dlo with Birds Rights.

[3toheadmelo]

nobody on the pels played defense except jrue holiday and anthony davis. sure, let’s give him a pass.

he had the ball in his hands a lot and put up big numbers. he’s not somebody really worth signing.

Spoiler:

But as far as Randle goes, he is a gifted offensive player, really versatile but oh man is his defense awful. Like it's old man Lebron level, dude would just stand and watch, refused to close out on shooters, refused to even look like he was trying to do anything on defense. He was bad like really bad. I can imagine the Pels coaching staff being frustrated with him to the point that they wouldn't mind seeing him just walk away

Ion know what happened in New Orleans but that boy played D on the Lakers. If he gets back to this level ( and i don’t see why not) he’s a good fit next to Mitch.

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[camby23]

https://cavaliersnation.com/2019/05/31/report-cavs-trade-rj-barrett-york-knicks/

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/05/31/new-york-knicks-rumors-cavaliers-have-supreme-interest-in-rj-barrett/

Cavs wants RJ Barrett really bad. Would you trade 3th pick and Ntilikina for Cavs 5th pick and Sexton?

[Richard4444]

Smith and protected 1st for Bamba

Both Durant and Butler take 2-3M less so we can resign both Mario and Vonleh, while saving the MLE for a veteran PG like Rondo, Rubio or Collison

Frank / Rondo / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Mario
Butler / Dotson / Melo
Durant / Knox / Vonleh
Mitch / Bamba / Kornet

I’d be embarrassed to ask the best player in the world to take less than the max so we could fit two dudes who wouldn’t even be in the rotation. Durant - or anyone else - is already leaving money on the table just by picking NY over his current team.

I wonder if Knicks should ask Durant to give a 130K discount (600K in 4 years) to sign his body Trier and Dotson (awesome contract) without trade anyone. Because I am worried if Durant get offended by that.

Ask to Durant to give more than 500K/year of discount is preposterous!!

[taj2133]

[quote="camby23"]https://cavaliersnation.com/2019/05/31/report-cavs-trade-rj-barrett-york-knicks/

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/05/31/new-york-knicks-rumors-cavaliers-have-supreme-interest-in-rj-barrett/

Key word this guy joe vardon said was hypothetical meaning it was made up and sexton isn't on the block like i told you guys yesterday.
The big news on Friday revolves around the New York Knicks exploring a potential trade-down scenario with the Atlanta Hawks. However, they aren’t the only team intrigued by a potential trade with the Knicks. According to Joe Vardon of The Athletic, the Cleveland Cavaliers have “supreme interest” in RJ Barrett, the projected third overall pick.

“There was some speculation that the Knicks are interested in trading out at three,” Vardon said on The Fan Cleveland’s Bull & Fox. “Boy, that caught my attention because I know you were writing about the Cavs’ supreme interest in RJ Barrett, which I know to be true. … They feel they have the assets to do it.”

There is no chance the Cavaliers will have the opportunity to draft Barrett with the No. 5 pick. He’s too talented with too much potential for teams to pass up.

Vardon and the hosts discussed a Bleacher Report hypothetical involving the fifth pick, the 26th pick (via the Houston Rockets), and Collin Sexton in exchange for Barrett and Frank Ntilikina. They didn’t sound too enthused about that potential deal.
https://elitesportsny.com/2019/05/31/new-york-knicks-rumors-cavaliers-have-supreme-interest-in-rj-barrett/

[Capn'O]

I like Brogdon. He'd be an awesome third guy, but it would cost the 2nd slot, and still no guarantees.

My thought on this has been...

You sign Durant, make the Davis trade, and spend the rest or a portion of the rest depending on what the trade is on Brogdon.

[Richard4444]

https://cavaliersnation.com/2019/05/31/report-cavs-trade-rj-barrett-york-knicks/

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/05/31/new-york-knicks-rumors-cavaliers-have-supreme-interest-in-rj-barrett/

Cavs wants RJ Barrett really bad. Would you trade 3th pick and Ntilikina for Cavs 5th pick and Sexton?

Thats an awful deal to Knicks.

If Cavs also give 26 pick: still really bad deal to Knicks.

If Knicks also give up trading for AD or signing a Max PG: still bad deal Knicks. DSJr has better playmaking skills and frame.

If Cavs also give 26 pick and FRP: Maybe, if Knciks could find a third team to get DSjr or Sexton.

[knickstape4ever]

https://cavaliersnation.com/2019/05/31/report-cavs-trade-rj-barrett-york-knicks/

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/05/31/new-york-knicks-rumors-cavaliers-have-supreme-interest-in-rj-barrett/

Cavs wants RJ Barrett really bad. Would you trade 3th pick and Ntilikina for Cavs 5th pick and Sexton?

Thats an awful deal to Knicks.

If Cavs also give 26 pick: still really bad deal to Knicks.

If Knicks also give up trading for AD or signing a Max PG: still bad deal Knicks. DSJr has better playmaking skills and frame.

If Cavs also give 26 pick and FRP: Maybe, if Knciks could find a third team to get DSjr or Sexton.

mainly I hate the idea of trading down in the NBA draft, NFL ok, but the NBA draft is too top heavy

[HEZI]

nobody on the pels played defense except jrue holiday and anthony davis. sure, let’s give him a pass.

he had the ball in his hands a lot and put up big numbers. he’s not somebody really worth signing.

Spoiler:

But as far as Randle goes, he is a gifted offensive player, really versatile but oh man is his defense awful. Like it's old man Lebron level, dude would just stand and watch, refused to close out on shooters, refused to even look like he was trying to do anything on defense. He was bad like really bad. I can imagine the Pels coaching staff being frustrated with him to the point that they wouldn't mind seeing him just walk away

Ion know what happened in New Orleans but that boy played D on the Lakers. If he gets back to this level ( and i don’t see why not) he’s a good fit next to Mitch.

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Doubt the Knicks will show much interest in him. We are likely going after the big fish and might not settle on guys like Randle if we can't land them. I could see the Nets throwing money at him though

[taj2133]

I like Brogdon. He'd be an awesome third guy, but it would cost the 2nd slot, and still no guarantees.

My thought on this has been...

You sign Durant, make the Davis trade, and spend the rest or a portion of the rest depending on what the trade is on Brogdon.

I wouldn't be shocked if team over pays for brogdon like over 20 million dollars a team like the suns, bulls, or pacers he is good but he isn't worth that type of money. I know this if tier or dotson were free agents they would be getting payed there starting salary would at least 10-12 million and grand total of 60 millions for 4 years. Thank god for perry we would lose those 2 guys too free agency some team would over pay tier and dotson like the lakers, clippers, sixers, pistons, and suns.

[Thugger HBC]

I like Brogdon. He'd be an awesome third guy, but it would cost the 2nd slot, and still no guarantees.

My thought on this has been...

You sign Durant, make the Davis trade, and spend the rest or a portion of the rest depending on what the trade is on Brogdon.

I wouldn't be shocked if team over pays for brogdon like over 20 million dollars a team like the suns, bulls, or pacers he is good but he isn't worth that type of money. I know this if tier or dotson were free agents they would be getting payed there starting salary would at least 10-12 million and grand total of 60 millions for 4 years. Thank god for perry we would lose those 2 guys too free agency some team would over pay tier and dotson like the lakers, clippers, sixers, pistons, and suns.

Havent really checked, but does Phx have the space to do this?

[Richard4444]

Smith and protected 1st for Bamba

Both Durant and Butler take 2-3M less so we can resign both Mario and Vonleh, while saving the MLE for a veteran PG like Rondo, Rubio or Collison

Frank / Rondo / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Mario
Butler / Dotson / Melo
Durant / Knox / Vonleh
Mitch / Bamba / Kornet

Why would we overpay to get Bamba?

1) He was not good in rookie year. He lost trade value.

2) We already have a rookie Center with similar skills. We would need a backup veteran.

3) In this scenario we need more PGs than Centers. Frank is not ready to be a starter PG.

[3toheadmelo]

Spoiler:

But as far as Randle goes, he is a gifted offensive player, really versatile but oh man is his defense awful. Like it's old man Lebron level, dude would just stand and watch, refused to close out on shooters, refused to even look like he was trying to do anything on defense. He was bad like really bad. I can imagine the Pels coaching staff being frustrated with him to the point that they wouldn't mind seeing him just walk away

Ion know what happened in New Orleans but that boy played D on the Lakers. If he gets back to this level ( and i don’t see why not) he’s a good fit next to Mitch.

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Doubt the Knicks will show much interest in him. We are likely going after the big fish and might not settle on guys like Randle if we can't land them. I could see the Nets throwing money at him though

Yeah they prob won’t go after him and I understand. I did see the Suns are interested in him also. My BAF frontcourt might be a reality

[taj2133]

My thought on this has been...

You sign Durant, make the Davis trade, and spend the rest or a portion of the rest depending on what the trade is on Brogdon.

I wouldn't be shocked if team over pays for brogdon like over 20 million dollars a team like the suns, bulls, or pacers he is good but he isn't worth that type of money. I know this if tier or dotson were free agents they would be getting payed there starting salary would at least 10-12 million and grand total of 60 millions for 4 years. Thank god for perry we would lose those 2 guys too free agency some team would over pay tier and dotson like the lakers, clippers, sixers, pistons, and suns.

Havent really checked, but does Phx have the space to do this?

Rumor has it on the suns realgm message board is there going to stretch tyler johnston 19 million dollars and trade josh jackson for cash, could have money. That was what suns realgm mod told me according to him.

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[br7knicks]

Let Kyrie go to the nets.

DSJR / Frank
Butler / Trier
KD / Barrett
Morris /Knox
Mitch / DJ

That's probablyy favorite hypothetical lineup anyone has posted this far.

Mainly because there's no Kyrie. But I like me some Butler.

I'd be okay with

Dsjr/frank
Barret/dotson
Butler/whoever
KD/morris
Mitch/whoever

For the whoevers, I'd hope the Knicks will move Knox and Trier for someone who fits a better defensive and winning style of play. Then there's the MLE, unless you were thinking Morris would take that.