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thebuzzardman wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Actual motor, unlike Knox. Looks as good as Obi as well. Possibly better.
Bey's a year and a half older than Knox.
Knox will suck in 1.5 years as well.
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moocow007 wrote:Are you guys sure that you are thinking about the right Bey?
Saddiq Bey (the SF) is the intense Bey that is much better than and everything that Kevin Knox is not. Tyler Bey (the SF)? He's more like Knox brother from another mother. If this was Saddiq Bey, absolutely in a second. Tyler Bey?
Kinda like passing on a kick in the nuts in favor of a punch to the throat. Not exactly a thing you want to go running around slapping hands about.
Tyler Bey is a rangy, explosive forward with budding offensive potential, a terrific motor on the glass, and an intriguing combination of versatility and instincts on the defensive end. A lightly regarded recruit widely ranked outside of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2017 coming out of Middlebrooks Academy (CA), the Las Vegas native nonetheless started much of his first year under Head Coach Tad Boyle at Colorado. Showing significant growth during his sophomore season, Bey averaged 13.5 points and 9.9 rebounds nearly averaging a double-double.
He posted similar averages as a junior but helped lead Colorado to one of their best seasons in the last twenty years earning Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year honors in the process.
Standing 6-foot-7 with a solid 215-pound frame and a 7-foot-1 wingspan, Bey is a gifted athlete with good agility and impressive explosiveness.
Playing a somewhat unique role for the Buffaloes, Bey frequently operated one-on-one in the post, but provided some inside-outside shot making off the ball while impacting the game with his athleticism on the glass and in the open floor as well. A bouncy finisher who is still expanding the range on his jump shot, he has some promising tools on the offensive end.
Stuffing the stat sheet and possessing coveted versatility on the defensive end, Bey was a factor in the passing lanes, active on the glass, energetic as a rim protector, and held his own for stretches guarding a wide range of opposing scorers one-on-one.
Defensive Analysis
With a terrific combination of length, athleticism, and energy, Bey is an excellent rebounder who regularly goes outside of his area to pursue the ball, gets his hands on the ball in the passing lanes, and even shows the timing to meet finishers at the rim.
Allowing 0.48 points per isolation possession [85th percentile] and 0.82 points per post up possession [52nd percentile], Bey appeared more comfortable sliding with guards than banging with big men last season but possesses appealing versatility.
Career Highlights
2019-20 Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year.
Top-10 finalist for the 2019-20 Karl Malone Power Forward of the Year Award.
2018-19 All-Pac-12 First Team and 2019-20 All-Pac-12 Second Team selection.
2018-19 Pac-12 Most Improved Player.
Junior (2019-20)
Led the Pac-12 in rebounding (9.0 rpg), finished fifth in steals (1.55 spg) and ranked seventh in blocks (1.16 bpg).
Averaged 13.8 points on 53.0 percent shooting from the field (ninth in Pac-12).
Shot 13-for-30 (41.9) from three-point range after totaling five threes in his previous two seasons.
Set career highs with 19 rebounds and six assists to go with 11 points vs. Wyoming (Nov. 24).
Became the second conference Defensive Player of the Year in school history, joining Andre Roberson (2012-13).
NABC All-District 19 Second Team.
Strengths
Versatile defender with NBA-caliber athleticism.
Excels as both a rim protector and wing defender.
Uses his length and bounce to finish on offense.
Plays the game with a fearless attitude.
3toheadmelo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Are you guys sure that you are thinking about the right Bey?
Saddiq Bey (the SF) is the intense Bey that is much better than and everything that Kevin Knox is not. Tyler Bey (the SF)? He's more like Knox brother from another mother. If this was Saddiq Bey, absolutely in a second. Tyler Bey?
Kinda like passing on a kick in the nuts in favor of a punch to the throat. Not exactly a thing you want to go running around slapping hands about.
im not seeing the tyler bey and knox comparison. Tyler Bey plays with a high motor and loves defenseTyler Bey is a rangy, explosive forward with budding offensive potential, a terrific motor on the glass, and an intriguing combination of versatility and instincts on the defensive end. A lightly regarded recruit widely ranked outside of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2017 coming out of Middlebrooks Academy (CA), the Las Vegas native nonetheless started much of his first year under Head Coach Tad Boyle at Colorado. Showing significant growth during his sophomore season, Bey averaged 13.5 points and 9.9 rebounds nearly averaging a double-double.
He posted similar averages as a junior but helped lead Colorado to one of their best seasons in the last twenty years earning Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year honors in the process.
Standing 6-foot-7 with a solid 215-pound frame and a 7-foot-1 wingspan, Bey is a gifted athlete with good agility and impressive explosiveness.
Playing a somewhat unique role for the Buffaloes, Bey frequently operated one-on-one in the post, but provided some inside-outside shot making off the ball while impacting the game with his athleticism on the glass and in the open floor as well. A bouncy finisher who is still expanding the range on his jump shot, he has some promising tools on the offensive end.
Stuffing the stat sheet and possessing coveted versatility on the defensive end, Bey was a factor in the passing lanes, active on the glass, energetic as a rim protector, and held his own for stretches guarding a wide range of opposing scorers one-on-one.
Defensive Analysis
With a terrific combination of length, athleticism, and energy, Bey is an excellent rebounder who regularly goes outside of his area to pursue the ball, gets his hands on the ball in the passing lanes, and even shows the timing to meet finishers at the rim.
Allowing 0.48 points per isolation possession [85th percentile] and 0.82 points per post up possession [52nd percentile], Bey appeared more comfortable sliding with guards than banging with big men last season but possesses appealing versatility.Career Highlights
2019-20 Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year.
Top-10 finalist for the 2019-20 Karl Malone Power Forward of the Year Award.
2018-19 All-Pac-12 First Team and 2019-20 All-Pac-12 Second Team selection.
2018-19 Pac-12 Most Improved Player.
Junior (2019-20)
Led the Pac-12 in rebounding (9.0 rpg), finished fifth in steals (1.55 spg) and ranked seventh in blocks (1.16 bpg).
Averaged 13.8 points on 53.0 percent shooting from the field (ninth in Pac-12).
Shot 13-for-30 (41.9) from three-point range after totaling five threes in his previous two seasons.
Set career highs with 19 rebounds and six assists to go with 11 points vs. Wyoming (Nov. 24).
Became the second conference Defensive Player of the Year in school history, joining Andre Roberson (2012-13).
NABC All-District 19 Second Team.
Strengths
Versatile defender with NBA-caliber athleticism.
Excels as both a rim protector and wing defender.
Uses his length and bounce to finish on offense.
Plays the game with a fearless attitude.
moocow007 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:moocow007 wrote:Are you guys sure that you are thinking about the right Bey?
Saddiq Bey (the SF) is the intense Bey that is much better than and everything that Kevin Knox is not. Tyler Bey (the SF)? He's more like Knox brother from another mother. If this was Saddiq Bey, absolutely in a second. Tyler Bey?
Kinda like passing on a kick in the nuts in favor of a punch to the throat. Not exactly a thing you want to go running around slapping hands about.
im not seeing the tyler bey and knox comparison. Tyler Bey plays with a high motor and loves defenseTyler Bey is a rangy, explosive forward with budding offensive potential, a terrific motor on the glass, and an intriguing combination of versatility and instincts on the defensive end. A lightly regarded recruit widely ranked outside of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2017 coming out of Middlebrooks Academy (CA), the Las Vegas native nonetheless started much of his first year under Head Coach Tad Boyle at Colorado. Showing significant growth during his sophomore season, Bey averaged 13.5 points and 9.9 rebounds nearly averaging a double-double.
He posted similar averages as a junior but helped lead Colorado to one of their best seasons in the last twenty years earning Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year honors in the process.
Standing 6-foot-7 with a solid 215-pound frame and a 7-foot-1 wingspan, Bey is a gifted athlete with good agility and impressive explosiveness.
Playing a somewhat unique role for the Buffaloes, Bey frequently operated one-on-one in the post, but provided some inside-outside shot making off the ball while impacting the game with his athleticism on the glass and in the open floor as well. A bouncy finisher who is still expanding the range on his jump shot, he has some promising tools on the offensive end.
Stuffing the stat sheet and possessing coveted versatility on the defensive end, Bey was a factor in the passing lanes, active on the glass, energetic as a rim protector, and held his own for stretches guarding a wide range of opposing scorers one-on-one.
Defensive Analysis
With a terrific combination of length, athleticism, and energy, Bey is an excellent rebounder who regularly goes outside of his area to pursue the ball, gets his hands on the ball in the passing lanes, and even shows the timing to meet finishers at the rim.
Allowing 0.48 points per isolation possession [85th percentile] and 0.82 points per post up possession [52nd percentile], Bey appeared more comfortable sliding with guards than banging with big men last season but possesses appealing versatility.Career Highlights
2019-20 Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year.
Top-10 finalist for the 2019-20 Karl Malone Power Forward of the Year Award.
2018-19 All-Pac-12 First Team and 2019-20 All-Pac-12 Second Team selection.
2018-19 Pac-12 Most Improved Player.
Junior (2019-20)
Led the Pac-12 in rebounding (9.0 rpg), finished fifth in steals (1.55 spg) and ranked seventh in blocks (1.16 bpg).
Averaged 13.8 points on 53.0 percent shooting from the field (ninth in Pac-12).
Shot 13-for-30 (41.9) from three-point range after totaling five threes in his previous two seasons.
Set career highs with 19 rebounds and six assists to go with 11 points vs. Wyoming (Nov. 24).
Became the second conference Defensive Player of the Year in school history, joining Andre Roberson (2012-13).
NABC All-District 19 Second Team.
Strengths
Versatile defender with NBA-caliber athleticism.
Excels as both a rim protector and wing defender.
Uses his length and bounce to finish on offense.
Plays the game with a fearless attitude.
The point is that Tyler Bey really didn't look all that good in the NBA last season and he's been dumped by 2 teams since (Dallas and Houston). If he was what you indicated he would have neither looked bad (granted in limited play) nor been discarded (what you can argue Knox has looked and would have been done had he not been a lottery pick with a lottery pick sized guaranteed contract).
Not every college player translates to the NBA. I had mentioned even before the draft that you can't just look at his 3 point numbers in college and start saying he's a shooter. He has a slow release...which is a killer when trying to translate shooting to the NBA. Also he may have average NBA athleticism it's not elite for a wing...which will then impact on how much of a defender he can be in the NBA.
But more importantly, I got the sense that folks that were getting real excited was thinking about the other Bey. Saddiq Bey. Now he's a guy that is intense and can shoot and has actually shown he can play in the NBA. Saddiq Bey has the earmarks of a NY type of player...a tough, physical wing/forward that can contribute immediately if you were able to add him to this team.
Tyler Bey? I don't know that I would swap any of the current players on the Knicks roster for him (even just from a roster spot standpoint). Not Quentin Grimes (who I'm not a huge fan of), not Jericho Sims, certainly not Deuce McBride. Honestly I'm not even sure that swapping him out for Knox will do much of anything and Knox is probably the guy that's least valued on the roster all things factored in.
3toheadmelo wrote:moocow007 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:im not seeing the tyler bey and knox comparison. Tyler Bey plays with a high motor and loves defense
The point is that Tyler Bey really didn't look all that good in the NBA last season and he's been dumped by 2 teams since (Dallas and Houston). If he was what you indicated he would have neither looked bad (granted in limited play) nor been discarded (what you can argue Knox has looked and would have been done had he not been a lottery pick with a lottery pick sized guaranteed contract).
Not every college player translates to the NBA. I had mentioned even before the draft that you can't just look at his 3 point numbers in college and start saying he's a shooter. He has a slow release...which is a killer when trying to translate shooting to the NBA. Also he may have average NBA athleticism it's not elite for a wing...which will then impact on how much of a defender he can be in the NBA.
But more importantly, I got the sense that folks that were getting real excited was thinking about the other Bey. Saddiq Bey. Now he's a guy that is intense and can shoot and has actually shown he can play in the NBA. Saddiq Bey has the earmarks of a NY type of player...a tough, physical wing/forward that can contribute immediately if you were able to add him to this team.
Tyler Bey? I don't know that I would swap any of the current players on the Knicks roster for him (even just from a roster spot standpoint). Not Quentin Grimes (who I'm not a huge fan of), not Jericho Sims, certainly not Deuce McBride. Honestly I'm not even sure that swapping him out for Knox will do much of anything and Knox is probably the guy that's least valued on the roster all things factored in.
i mean he's only played 3 minutes per game last season. can't really come to a conclusion about him.
most of us are just looking at him as a low risk high potential flyer. why not see what he can do? better than knox wasting a spot. i also think he's a pretty good athlete so disagree there. a lot of us are intrigued by him cause he plays with a high motor, can guard 1-5, pretty long (pause), has a nice middy, good athleticsm and a good rebounder.
moocow007 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:moocow007 wrote:
The point is that Tyler Bey really didn't look all that good in the NBA last season and he's been dumped by 2 teams since (Dallas and Houston). If he was what you indicated he would have neither looked bad (granted in limited play) nor been discarded (what you can argue Knox has looked and would have been done had he not been a lottery pick with a lottery pick sized guaranteed contract).
Not every college player translates to the NBA. I had mentioned even before the draft that you can't just look at his 3 point numbers in college and start saying he's a shooter. He has a slow release...which is a killer when trying to translate shooting to the NBA. Also he may have average NBA athleticism it's not elite for a wing...which will then impact on how much of a defender he can be in the NBA.
But more importantly, I got the sense that folks that were getting real excited was thinking about the other Bey. Saddiq Bey. Now he's a guy that is intense and can shoot and has actually shown he can play in the NBA. Saddiq Bey has the earmarks of a NY type of player...a tough, physical wing/forward that can contribute immediately if you were able to add him to this team.
Tyler Bey? I don't know that I would swap any of the current players on the Knicks roster for him (even just from a roster spot standpoint). Not Quentin Grimes (who I'm not a huge fan of), not Jericho Sims, certainly not Deuce McBride. Honestly I'm not even sure that swapping him out for Knox will do much of anything and Knox is probably the guy that's least valued on the roster all things factored in.
i mean he's only played 3 minutes per game last season. can't really come to a conclusion about him.
most of us are just looking at him as a low risk high potential flyer. why not see what he can do? better than knox wasting a spot. i also think he's a pretty good athlete so disagree there. a lot of us are intrigued by him cause he plays with a high motor, can guard 1-5, pretty long (pause), has a nice middy, good athleticsm and a good rebounder.
So why would a team like Houston (of all teams) choose to dump him in favor of a proven bust like Dante Exum? Being intrigued is fine but to jump at college scouting reports? If we can swap Knox for him sure but it's more cause Knox really has shown he's not an NBA level player from a mindset standpoint and not so much for Tyler Bey. Can probably replace Bey's name with a dozen (or two) other players (Mike James who played for the Nets last season and just signed overseas for example) and it would still apply.
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?stuporman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:What are Beyonce’s strengths as a basketball player?
She sure fits the big butt basketball style...
Clyde_Style wrote:stuporman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:What are Beyonce’s strengths as a basketball player?
She sure fits the big butt basketball style...
I heard that when she backs up in the post she shuts grown men down
Clyde_Style wrote:stuporman wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:What are Beyonce’s strengths as a basketball player?
She sure fits the big butt basketball style...
I heard that when she backs up in the post she shuts grown men down
3toheadmelo wrote:moocow007 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:i mean he's only played 3 minutes per game last season. can't really come to a conclusion about him.
most of us are just looking at him as a low risk high potential flyer. why not see what he can do? better than knox wasting a spot. i also think he's a pretty good athlete so disagree there. a lot of us are intrigued by him cause he plays with a high motor, can guard 1-5, pretty long (pause), has a nice middy, good athleticsm and a good rebounder.
So why would a team like Houston (of all teams) choose to dump him in favor of a proven bust like Dante Exum? Being intrigued is fine but to jump at college scouting reports? If we can swap Knox for him sure but it's more cause Knox really has shown he's not an NBA level player from a mindset standpoint and not so much for Tyler Bey. Can probably replace Bey's name with a dozen (or two) other players (Mike James who played for the Nets last season and just signed overseas for example) and it would still apply.
houston is the same team that traded harden for peanuts. so i wouldn't say they're exactly a smart franchise that knows what they're doing.
we just think bey is a low risk high potential guy. nothing more than that. i think you're reading more into this than it really is
?thebuzzardman wrote:JJ Reddick retired. He took that one crack at trying to extract some extra retirement money from Dolan but it didn't work out. Maybe times are changing.
Clyde_Style wrote:What are Beyonce’s strengths as a basketball player?