Its time for the Knicks to make a move on Randle before its too late.

[Ray Williams]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

[Richard4444]

We will trade Randle to Sacramento in a 3 team trade for Love + Top20 protected pick.

Next season, Randle has a good year and is traded again to the Blazers for Little + unprotected pick.

[Appleshampoo]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

Honestly that is their job.

[WargamesX]

Minnesota should be interested if Randle becomes available. We know that’s what KAT would want and that whole franchise will trade everything to make KAT happy.

They would take the Knicks to the cleaners. They only have expiring and they can’t outright trade their pick, because they did last year with the warriors for Kuminga. Also this year’s FA is about as shallow as last year’s so you’re not adding anything worthwhile there using Randle’s salary.

While I see he logic in the destination the package they could send the Knicks is weak so I doubt it happens

[KnicksGadfly]

Minnesota should be interested if Randle becomes available. We know that’s what KAT would want and that whole franchise will trade everything to make KAT happy.

They would take the Knicks to the cleaners. They only have expiring and they can’t outright trade their pick, because they did last year with the warriors for Kuminga. Also this year’s FA is about as shallow as last year’s so you’re not adding anything worthwhile there using Randle’s salary.

Whelp, what the hell are they offering for Simmons then?

[WargamesX]

Minnesota should be interested if Randle becomes available. We know that’s what KAT would want and that whole franchise will trade everything to make KAT happy.

They would take the Knicks to the cleaners. They only have expiring and they can’t outright trade their pick, because they did last year with the warriors for Kuminga. Also this year’s FA is about as shallow as last year’s so you’re not adding anything worthwhile there using Randle’s salary.

Whelp, what the hell are they offering for Simmons then?

Flipside Philly would take the Knicks to the cleaners. I legit don’t trust Morey in any trade after T-Mac

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For Simmons it would cost Randle, likely Burks, at least one of the youth (probably IQ, because he and Maxey are a set iykyk) and multiple first (hornets, Dallas, and some pick swaps)! Also some vending machines and the rights to the name Madison Square Garden

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This trade works after Feb 3rd.

[KnicksGadfly]

They would take the Knicks to the cleaners. They only have expiring and they can’t outright trade their pick, because they did last year with the warriors for Kuminga. Also this year’s FA is about as shallow as last year’s so you’re not adding anything worthwhile there using Randle’s salary.

Whelp, what the hell are they offering for Simmons then?

Flipside Philly would take the Knicks to the cleaners. I legit don’t trust Morey in any trade after T-Mac

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For Simmons it would cost Randle, likely Burks, at least one of the youth (probably IQ, because he and Maxey are a set iykyk) and multiple first (hornets, Dallas, and some pick swaps)! Also some vending machines and the rights to the name Madison Square Garden

Lol I meant what was Minnesota offering to philly for Simmons? Cause they were going super hard after him without assets then

[Deeeez Knicks]

This trade works after Feb 3rd.

Can't see Minn doing that one after McDaniels dominated Randle on both ends

[Im Coming Home]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

Holy **** thats bad lmfao @3totheheadmelo

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[Jimmit79]

Yea Knicks bench has been outscoring nba bench for most of the season.. macri just decided to exclude other starters in that stat.

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[nedleeds]

Trading a pick to get off Randle or Fournier, or taking back dead money (Wall) is admitting they suck. So this FO won't do it, the next FO will have cover to dump Randle.

Edit:

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It's also a bad business move paying to dump players for cap space if you do not plan to sign a real star.

First, get a star willing to sign with us. Then think about dumping salary to open cap space.

cough Noah cough

Sure, but that's only good if you're willing to tank. Though more and more it looks like Julius is just Tim Thomas and will make a great tank commander.

[nedleeds]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

His fascination with Randle is that his boss just maxed Randont a year early and hitched the Knicks to one of the 5 worst contracts in the league if Randles shooting holds up the rest of the year. If he doesn't play him or plays him 28 minutes, he's fired. He can't win with him because we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster, he can't win without him because ... well we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster even if Randle doesn't play. He's screwed either way, and is a bad coach to begin with who never adjusts and is wretched in game.

[K_ick_God]

Aaaaand it's too late.

[WargamesX]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

His fascination with Randle is that his boss just maxed Randont a year early and hitched the Knicks to one of the 5 worst contracts in the league if Randles shooting holds up the rest of the year. If he doesn't play him or plays him 28 minutes, he's fired. He can't win with him because we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster, he can't win without him because ... well we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster even if Randle doesn't play. He's screwed either way, and is a bad coach to begin with who never adjusts and is wretched in game.

Randle is not top 5 bad contract. That would be Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Bertans is pretty bad, Gordon Hayward’s is worst too. The rest of what you said is valid.

[will]

Yeah, way too late.

Knicks signed up to that big deal.

Predictably, he won't live up to it.

[nedleeds]

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Jonathan Macri
@JCMacriNBA
In 455 minutes without Randle on the court this year, the Knicks are outscoring teams by 15.9 points per 100 possessions, which of course would be an all time record.

I wish a reporter would confront Thibs on a postgame with this, and ask him what is his fascination with this bum.

His fascination with Randle is that his boss just maxed Randont a year early and hitched the Knicks to one of the 5 worst contracts in the league if Randles shooting holds up the rest of the year. If he doesn't play him or plays him 28 minutes, he's fired. He can't win with him because we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster, he can't win without him because ... well we don't have a top 30 player anywhere on roster even if Randle doesn't play. He's screwed either way, and is a bad coach to begin with who never adjusts and is wretched in game.

Randle is not top 5 bad contract. That would be Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Russell Westbrook, John Wall, Bertans is pretty bad, Gordon Hayward’s is worst too. The rest of what you said is valid.

Interesting, I think I weigh years left way more as a negative. Randle is on for 4.5 ... half a decade.

Gordon Hayward is not close, he's a better player and only has 2 more years on his deal, yeah he makes more per year but it's 1/2 the length. You may want to look at what he's doing this year. I guess he's far less healthy than Randle, but given the on/offs with Randle I don't really care as much since his durability just means he plays more minutes in which he's inefficient and terrible.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/haywago01.html

He's +21 vs league average in true shooting. Randle is -51. It's hard to believe how terrible he is, even I who wanted to trade him for anything and have been ultimately proven right couldn't have predicted how atrocious Randle is. Neither are great defenders. Both can pass pretty well, but Hayward turns it over less. At best they're a push and 1 guy has only 2 years left.

Simmons is absolutely a worse contract than Randle. In fact given that he may never play meaningful minutes again and could be mentally demolished I'd put Simmons as the worst contract in the league. He's owed a mind blowing amount of money for somebody with the offensive skill of a 6th grader. 3 more years topping out at almost $40 million for the next Larry Hughes.

Porzingis is always hurt, he's below league average shooting efficiency despite playing with a god tier distributor and has regressed quite a bit defensively since the ACL. But he only has 2 more years. Comparing turds, Randle is probably better this year. I'd call these two a push, again Randles deal is twice as long.

John Wall is not close. He's expiring next year, I don't care if he makes $55 million and steals from Dolan. His contract might be top 10 but it's not top 5 anymore and Randles contract is 100x worse. Heck, Fourniers contract is worse.

Same with Westbrick. He expires next year, don't care. He's a total trainwreck for $47 million would make a god tier tank lord. His contract expires though, Randle and Fournier are both worse.

Bertans is terrible as well I think he'd make my top 5. He has 3 more years, but that last year is only partial. But the guy is a total sieve defensively and is hurt and can basically do one thing at an NBA level. You're paying Steve Novak $16, and $17 million. Actually Steve Novak tried on defense.

Worst 5 for me are

1. Simmons
2. MP Jr ($150 owed for *5* more years and may never play)
3. Klay Thompson ($80 million left and can't actually play, if he comes back I'll remove him)
4. DeAaron Fox ($160 million for one of the worst shooters who plays)
5. Randle (4 more years after this year for a wretched shooter and average defender)

Honorable Mention: Jon Isaac, KP, Lauri Markkanen, Gobert, Jamal Murray if he's just going to never come back, Jarrett Allen, Kevin Love, Norman Powell, Marcus Smart ...

there are some real beaters on this list

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html#player-contracts::10

[sol537]

LAL, POR, LAC, or even MIL could all use a guy like Randle before the mid-Feb trade deadline.

All we'd need is shorter contracts and some picks. For example, Randle to MIL for Lopez (injured) + Pat C. + picks + swaps. If Randle bought in, MIL could repeat. LAL could send Russ (bought out) + picks + swaps. The good thing about the league having great parity once again is that the top 4-6 contenders will all be looking for moves to put them over the top (or maximize their chances, at least).

[robillionaire]

LAL, POR, LAC, or even MIL could all use a guy like Randle before the mid-Feb trade deadline.

All we'd need is shorter contracts and some picks. For example, Randle to MIL for Lopez (injured) + Pat C. + picks + swaps. If Randle bought in, MIL could repeat. LAL could send Russ (bought out) + picks + swaps. The good thing about the league having great parity once again is that the top 4-6 contenders will all be looking for moves to put them over the top (or maximize their chances, at least).

the bad thing is that with the play in tournament everybody will keep thinking they have a chance. and even teams who miss the playoffs in 11th or 12th in the conference will make a bunch of win now moves. Like the bulls just did trading for Vucevic and signing derozan and ball after missing the playoffs. Right now we are in the play in tournament. This team is never going to blow it up

[sol537]

LAL, POR, LAC, or even MIL could all use a guy like Randle before the mid-Feb trade deadline.

All we'd need is shorter contracts and some picks. For example, Randle to MIL for Lopez (injured) + Pat C. + picks + swaps. If Randle bought in, MIL could repeat. LAL could send Russ (bought out) + picks + swaps. The good thing about the league having great parity once again is that the top 4-6 contenders will all be looking for moves to put them over the top (or maximize their chances, at least).

the bad thing is that with the play in tournament everybody will keep thinking they have a chance. and even teams who miss the playoffs in 11th or 12th in the conference will make a bunch of win now moves. Like the bulls just did trading for Vucevic and signing derozan and ball after missing the playoffs. Right now we are in the play in tournament. This team is never going to blow it up

I hope you're wrong