Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
Et tu, NDoS?
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
Team Fournier playing more defense than their hero!
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Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
Et tu, NDoS?
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
Jimmit79 wrote:How can it be team if it's just you?Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
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Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
evevale wrote:Guano wrote:while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
moocow007 wrote:DaGawd wrote:bleedblue3303 wrote:The more I watch us play the more that 3 game win streak bothers me. Was such a waste. We really could have a shot at a high pick but Thibs gonna mess it up
It sucks but the kids largely played well during that streak. Hard to get too upset about that
Agreed.
KnicksNext wrote:denterprise wrote:KnicksNext wrote:
Jarrett Allen and Ben Wallace? LMAO. He's a 22 year 2nd round pick who has shown he can rebound a bit and has some hops. Probably should slow down a bit.
If you saw Ben Wallace play when he was a 22-year-old rookie and take a look at those states you would know the comparisons are on point. With rookies we can talk about their potential, it is on them to reach it or not. Sims is loaded with raw skills and should be our backup center the rest of this year and hopefully next year. By year three or four we should know what we have.
Listen man.. I get it. There's nothing wrong about being excited about a young player. But when you start putting a name like Ben Wallace as a comparison, you're really setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. I'm assuming you know just how good Ben Wallace was, correct? Did you get a chance to watch him a lot? Dude was special at what he did, and was so consistent for a long time. If Sims could accomplish 1/4th of what Wallace did in his career, he would still end up being a good player.
moocow007 wrote:denterprise wrote:KnicksNext wrote:
Jarrett Allen and Ben Wallace? LMAO. He's a 22 year 2nd round pick who has shown he can rebound a bit and has some hops. Probably should slow down a bit.
If you saw Ben Wallace play when he was a 22-year-old rookie and take a look at those states you would know the comparisons are on point. With rookies we can talk about their potential, it is on them to reach it or not. Sims is loaded with raw skills and should be our backup center the rest of this year and hopefully next year. By year three or four we should know what we have.
I hear you and agree that Sims has potential despite his lowly draft position but the problem is that no one back then would have believed a 22 year old Ben Wallace would become the DPOY Ben Wallace. Same with former Knick Anthony Mason. So it's hard to make that kind of association.
bleedblue3303 wrote:moocow007 wrote:DaGawd wrote:It sucks but the kids largely played well during that streak. Hard to get too upset about that
Agreed.
I'm upset because the kids should have been playing more all year. We should have known by now what we had and made the decision to limit minutes for the highest draft situation possible in a lost year. Maybe even gone as far bringing so G league players up to see what we have down there as well. Instead RJ playing 42 mins the other night. Whats the benefit?
KnicksNext wrote:sol537 wrote:1) S&T Mitch for picks
2) Trade Randle for expiring + picks
3) Trade Burks & Fournier for expirings
4) Trade Rose for picks
5) Hire a modern coach to replace Thibs
6) Draft/sign at least 2 point guards
7) Ride & die with the kids next season. Sims/Noel can hold down the C position for a season.
RJ + Grimes + Cam + Obi + Sims + IQ + McBride + draftees... add another lotto pick next season... one step back... two steps forward
1. Looks like this is our best bet at this point. I hope we don't hand Mitch the bag and add another albatross contract. Hate to lose him, but we're not in a position right now as a franchise to hand out another huge contract to a player who contributes mostly only on one end. LOVE Mitch, but we f*cked this whole situation up giving Noel a bag when we could have just gave it to Mitch. Now we're either going to lose him for nothing, and give him a contract we can't afford at the moment. Best to try to get something back for him in an S&T.
2. No one is taking Randle and his attitude right now. We gave him a bag one year early for literally no reason. We could (and should have) waited to see if he could perform at the same level two years in a row. Another Front Office f*ck up
3. We saw at the deadline that no one wanted Burks. I also think it's going to be hard to trade Founier's massive contract as well. Another Front Office f*ck up
4. What is Rose going to get us at this point? Don't expect more than a 2nd round pick. He's a solid player but can't stay on the court.
5. Agreed. We need to hire a young coach who can grow with the youth on our team. A coach who is not afraid to have multiple 20 win seasons with the idea that we're building for something bigger down the road.
6. Agreed. Someone else posted that we should add 4 more PG's to the roster next year, with the hope that we hit on 1 of the 4. It's time for the Knicks to take this kind of shot at the PG position. Again, the Front Office messed this up. We had Hali for the taking and instead we draft goofy Obi. Obi should never have been taken that high. Not for what he brings to the table.
7. I agree we should go this route, but everyone need's to be prepared for a brutal 2-3 year stretch in terms of losing. The likelihood of the Knicks going this route is pretty much nil at this point. As an organization, they just don't have the patience or fortitude to ride out a 2-3 year plan of losing with the idea. If we would have done this the past 5 years, we probably would be stacked at this point (assuming the Front Office made the correct draft picks, which is assuming a lot). But this is the only way we're ever going to truly be able to rebuild

RHODEY wrote:moocow007 wrote:denterprise wrote:
If you saw Ben Wallace play when he was a 22-year-old rookie and take a look at those states you would know the comparisons are on point. With rookies we can talk about their potential, it is on them to reach it or not. Sims is loaded with raw skills and should be our backup center the rest of this year and hopefully next year. By year three or four we should know what we have.
I hear you and agree that Sims has potential despite his lowly draft position but the problem is that no one back then would have believed a 22 year old Ben Wallace would become the DPOY Ben Wallace. Same with former Knick Anthony Mason. So it's hard to make that kind of association.
It one thing to say you expect a player to become another player...but just on a style basis, he reminds be of Ben Wallace. Ultra high motor, great strength and athleticism. He doesn't yet display the defense skills or rim protection...but just his raw energy,hops, and strength...made me think of Ben.
Just try to keep racking up wins. You never know,” Barrett said. “Other teams could also go on losing streaks, too. So you don’t know what’s going to happen. … It’s the NBA.
“Things happen sometimes. We’ve been playing amazing basketball since the All-Star break.

Guano wrote:
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated

Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor

god shammgod wrote:Just try to keep racking up wins. You never know,” Barrett said. “Other teams could also go on losing streaks, too. So you don’t know what’s going to happen. … It’s the NBA.
“Things happen sometimes. We’ve been playing amazing basketball since the All-Star break.
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god shammgod wrote:Just try to keep racking up wins. You never know,” Barrett said. “Other teams could also go on losing streaks, too. So you don’t know what’s going to happen. … It’s the NBA.
“Things happen sometimes. We’ve been playing amazing basketball since the All-Star break.
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Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:Just try to keep racking up wins. You never know,” Barrett said. “Other teams could also go on losing streaks, too. So you don’t know what’s going to happen. … It’s the NBA.
“Things happen sometimes. We’ve been playing amazing basketball since the All-Star break.
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oh, that's concerning - RJ is as delusional as melo.

sol537 wrote:1) S&T Mitch for picks
2) Trade Randle for expiring + picks
3) Trade Burks & Fournier for expirings
4) Trade Rose for picks
5) Hire a modern coach to replace Thibs
6) Draft/sign at least 2 point guards
7) Ride & die with the kids next season. Sims/Noel can hold down the C position for a season.
RJ + Grimes + Cam + Obi + Sims + IQ + McBride + draftees... add another lotto pick next season... one step back... two steps forward
moocow007 wrote:RHODEY wrote:moocow007 wrote:
I hear you and agree that Sims has potential despite his lowly draft position but the problem is that no one back then would have believed a 22 year old Ben Wallace would become the DPOY Ben Wallace. Same with former Knick Anthony Mason. So it's hard to make that kind of association.
It one thing to say you expect a player to become another player...but just on a style basis, he reminds be of Ben Wallace. Ultra high motor, great strength and athleticism. He doesn't yet display the defense skills or rim protection...but just his raw energy,hops, and strength...made me think of Ben.
I get it. Physically yes and with some aspects of how he plays for sure. The difference is that Ben Wallace (even coming out of Virginia Union) had a nasty edge to his game that Sims doesn't seem to have. And that type of intensity (along with his crazy physical package) is what ultimately set Ben Wallace on track to be one of the best defensive players in NBA history. Had to since Wallace was only about 6'7" without the fro top.
Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
Et tu, NDoS?
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
France doesn't have the best record in recent conflicts.


K-DOT wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Guano wrote:
while team fourni3r doesn't look for conflict we are prepared to defend and we stay undefeated
France doesn't have the best record in recent conflicts.
https://vividmaps.com/4500-years-of-battles-in-5-minutes/