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Post#201 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:11 pm

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5th pick for Randle...

the knicks aren’t rebuilding any more


They would be after that trade. :lol:

brunson would immediately demand a trade
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Post#202 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:31 pm

DaGawd wrote:
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DaGawd wrote:the knicks aren’t rebuilding any more


They would be after that trade. :lol:

brunson would immediately demand a trade

Thibs won't allow that trade to happen. Or any other such types of trades.
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Post#203 » by Talking Clam » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:35 pm

there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.
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Post#204 » by Talking Clam » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:35 pm

there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.
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Post#205 » by Spree2Houston » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:50 pm

Talking Clam wrote:there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.


OKC won’t go after him because they will need to pay their guys soon and can’t have Ihart’s eating up cap space. They’re a small market team that won’t go above any tax apron
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Post#206 » by Knicksfan1992 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 6:51 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:I can't see Detroit trading Cade or Ivey for anything that isn't a veteran upgrade for them which obviously doesn't fit what the Knicks are looking for in a trade.

My guess is that they'll look to consolidate some of the bigs on their roster and build around Cade/Ivey/Grimes/Thompson/Duren. In theory that's a nice core who could eventually turn into something sustainably good with an upgrade or 2.

I could see Isaiah Stewart becoming available and the Knicks have had interest in the past but, I don't think he really moves the needle at all.

I do worry that they are the kind of team that gets stupid with Hartenstein :o


I think the Lakers are probably NOT tearing it down. They almost never do that in LA. If anything they'll try hard to add another piece like Murray or Mitchell.

Detroit I would say there might be a bit of a chance they could trade one of Ivey or Cade and look for a better fitting piece depedning on who they hire and his thoughts on the overall current roster.


Trading Cade would be a fireable offense IMO given how that roster is built. This season was the first time he showed the consistent play that made him the number 1 pick. You can't just punt on that now especially when you don't have another star to build around.

I'd happily trade for Cade but it's not happening realistically for another year or 2 and if they're trading him at that point it's likely because he's been disappointing TBH
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Post#207 » by kNicksGmen » Thu Jun 6, 2024 7:12 pm

getting mixed messages on the 2nd apron. heard someone on KFS say if we resign OG+Ihart at the expected numbers and keep bogs - we won't be into the 2nd apron. listening to KFTV now and bobby marks said we would be. I think the difference is maybe bobby is counting the draft picks expected salaries and cap holds? not sure.

edit: maybe he's assuming we tender precious which i doubt if it puts us into the 2nd apron.
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Post#208 » by BowlRips » Thu Jun 6, 2024 7:36 pm

If you got the 5th pick for Randle, you'd open up a 30mil trade exception..
Is there a 30mil FA you like... I'm thinking Derozan
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Post#209 » by sol537 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 7:48 pm

We're gonna try to keep OG & iHart over Precious / Burks / Draft picks if it means avoiding the 2nd apron... just the way it is.

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Post#210 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 6, 2024 8:02 pm

BowlRips wrote:If you got the 5th pick for Randle, you'd open up a 30mil trade exception..
Is there a 30mil FA you like... I'm thinking Derozan

you must not be listening to the tidbits about how the fo feels about randle.. he’s not going anywhere unless it’s for a clear upgrade.. think giannis
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Post#211 » by Jeffrey » Thu Jun 6, 2024 8:12 pm

My theory is iHart and OG will re-sign with us after August 8th. Why? Because they can't be traded within 6 months of the signing and I'm pretty sure they don't want to be Blake Griffin'ed and get traded this upcoming deadline.

Am I right about this?
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Post#212 » by BowlRips » Thu Jun 6, 2024 8:30 pm

DaGawd wrote:
BowlRips wrote:If you got the 5th pick for Randle, you'd open up a 30mil trade exception..
Is there a 30mil FA you like... I'm thinking Derozan

you must not be listening to the tidbits about how the fo feels about randle.. he’s not going anywhere unless it’s for a clear upgrade.. think giannis


really? didnt see those.
All I saw was Randle hanging around every tourist spot taking pictures and some predictions from insiders that they thought Randle and the Knicks wouldn't get an extension done this summer.
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Post#213 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:02 pm

BowlRips wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
BowlRips wrote:If you got the 5th pick for Randle, you'd open up a 30mil trade exception..
Is there a 30mil FA you like... I'm thinking Derozan

you must not be listening to the tidbits about how the fo feels about randle.. he’s not going anywhere unless it’s for a clear upgrade.. think giannis


really? didnt see those.
All I saw was Randle hanging around every tourist spot taking pictures and some predictions from insiders that they thought Randle and the Knicks wouldn't get an extension done this summer.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275840/Knicks-Not-Trying-To-Trade-Julius-Randle
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Post#214 » by sol537 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:33 pm

Predictions:

1. iHart is going to resign a 4-year deal at his max
2. OG will shock the world and do an opt-in and extend with a player option final year
3. We'll guarantee Bogs' last year for a trade (or trade him before the guarantee kicks in if the other team prefers)
4. We'll give Precious his QO... but he'll get a better offer elsewhere and we won't match
5. We'll bring Ryan A. back for immaculate vibes and defensive 3-second violations
6. Randle will take a team-friendly extension at some point; won't get traded this season
7. Brunson will take a team-friendly extension before opening day
8. We'll bring Burks back at $3.5m per for 2 seasons
9. We'll draft three players. One of them a Euro stash. The other two as developmental players.
10. We won't make a splashy trade until the trade deadline Feb '25.
11. We'll remain under the 2nd apron
12. We'll sign a MLE player
13. Rokas won't come over for the upcoming season.
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Post#215 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:46 pm

KnixinSix wrote:Meanwhile on other rumors....

-Detroit looks like it is blowing it up. They have hired new management and now are looking into all the coaching staff. Does this make guys like Cade and/or Jayden available?

-LA is supposedly going hard after Danny Hurley. If that happens is that to start a team from the ground up or make another run with the aging core? If it is to start from the ground up AD and/or LeBron probably become available.


I doubt any of Detroit's young, cost controlled players are going anywhere. Especially Cade.
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Post#216 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:47 pm

By the way, Bridges is not being traded so that ship has sunk.

Resigning iHart, OG and using Bojan to add another rotation piece seems like the play than a trade for another star.
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Post#217 » by Wildcat » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:58 pm

Talking Clam wrote:there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.


There's an assumption that the sun will raise and set. Seems pretty strong assumption.
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Post#218 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:00 pm

OKC could do a shorter deal, higher money. Not saying they will, but they could.

The Knicks like Randle, but there's a ton of trade speculation around him. I have no idea what to expect, though I think it's very likely that they'll pick up Bogs option and look to trade him.

I love the Bogs for Lauri idea, but that's gong to cost a bunch of picks. Like . . . 5? 6? 11?

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Post#219 » by Knick4Real » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:47 pm

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Talking Clam wrote:there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.


OKC won’t go after him because they will need to pay their guys soon and can’t have Ihart’s eating up cap space. They’re a small market team that won’t go above any tax apron


THIS!

Also, a team like OKC would offer around $20M, while the KNICKS can offer around $17M. It's doubtful iHart would uproot his life and leave the big stage in NYC over $3 million.

My guess is he's staying.
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Post#220 » by WargamesX » Fri Jun 7, 2024 12:43 am

Spree2Houston wrote:
Talking Clam wrote:there seems to be assumption that ihart is coming back. okc needs a center, ihart is best available and they can offer more than knicks. ihart has hinted that he will go with the best offer so the most realistic assumption is that ihart is gone. so center then moves up as the top off season need especially given Mitch’s health history. i think knicks priorities will be to sign OG and pursue a strong D center woth some O game. Claxton? then maybe package mitch, bogeys contract and picks for a 1-2 like Dejonte Murray.


OKC won’t go after him because they will need to pay their guys soon and can’t have Ihart’s eating up cap space. They’re a small market team that won’t go above any tax apron


Mitch decreasing Salary contract would probably be more enticing to them since they like Chet at the 5 and only need a center against big teams and to back him up.
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