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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#201 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:58 am

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He’s far gone. Speaks like it.


How about rather insulting people like a typical liberal, talk facts.


I asked you 3 times to explain why Trump and conservatives defend the insurrections and I got crickets. Wanna try again?


You wanna try reading my responses to the same things from others? Do I really need to copy and paste it?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#202 » by Fury » Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:59 am

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How about rather insulting people like a typical liberal, talk facts.


I asked you 3 times to explain why Trump and conservatives defend the insurrections and I got crickets. Wanna try again?


You wanna try reading my responses to the same things from others? Do I really need to copy and paste it?


You said it was antifa and I said that Trump and conservatives defend the insurrectionists. So why? You haven’t responded to that.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#203 » by Kampuchea » Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:59 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I dunno why people are saying that this guarantees him the election, I'm not voting for a rapist/convicted felon/pedophile/epstein pal just because he got shot for talking crazy. I doubt I'm alone. Do no harm is my outlook, and being someone who was a victim of gun violence, I don't condone someone shooting the prick, but people reap what they sow. This is exactly the environment that Republicans and their base have been pushing for with their extremist talk and derailment of every sensible piece of gun legislation since GW let the Assault weapons ban expire. Good job yall.

You talk crazy, calling for Latinos to be deported, nationwide abortion bans, stripping civil rights protection and all that other fascist Project 2025 sh*t and guess what? You open up the door for extremists, regardless of political affiliation to come out the woodwork. This isn't new. We aren't far removed from when political killings were happening in this country

I don't feel sorry for him, this is what happens when you embrace extremism and stoke hatred. You had some dude from the Heritage Foundation making a speech about a bloodless coup like last week. Jan. 6th. What did anyone think was going to happen? There are guns and mentally ill people everywhere in this country.
You think Republicans would've learned when Steve Scalise got gunned down by some nutter with an SKS...this is a two way street.

I love this country but this isn't sustainable.


He was heavily favored already, not by anything he said but by Biden's failings, which I do not know how the Democrats did not see coming. That being said, there are still Republicans who would have sat on their asses instead of bothering to vote, I think we are at about 60-70% overall turnout. I believe a significant % of those people will get out to vote, and this will also be galvanizing for the republicans in terms of the independent voters and who they will support.

Next is for the Dems to desperately try and label this as a setup, they will fail.

You are correct, this is not sustainable. My hope is for Trumps victory to lead to change within the Democratic party, let them get a real candidate to the stage.


I'm glad that today is the day that you finally felt comfortable to admit that you're a Republican/MAGA. The centrist act was kind of strange tbh.

Can you detail Biden's failings? I'm interested to see what you don't like about him as compared to Donald Trump, a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, and Epstein pal?

Do you support rounding up Latinos regardless of legal status, and the elimination of birthright citizenship?


I said I didn’t vote for Trump last election, not sure why you’re labeling me as MAGA. Bring back Obama, he’d have my vote. Someone that’s decent and actually commands respect through his words and actions.

As for the immigration issue, I lean more towards the democrats line of thinking. I do not support rounding up of Latinos.

It’s OK to be critical, it doesn’t automatically make you a staunch supporter of either party.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#204 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:00 am

For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#205 » by Fury » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:01 am

moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.


Ok cool. So why do Trump and republicans defend the insurrectionists? I thought they were antifa.

And wait lol, republicans ARENT for corporations? lol.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#206 » by Rich Rane » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:01 am

moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.


The man with the golden toilet definitely cares about the common man.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#207 » by Knick4Real » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:02 am

If the Secret Service wants to know why there was a shooting today, all they have to do is read this thread.

Certain comments posted, ramped up emotions and the "digging in the heels" of opinions are exactly where we are today as a nation. And it's sad. No respect anymore. "I'm right and you're wrong" and then it gets out of hand.

Buckle up, folks because it's only going to get worse.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#208 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:03 am

Fury wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Fury wrote:
He’s far gone. Speaks like it.


How about rather insulting people like a typical liberal, talk facts.


I asked you 3 times to explain why Trump and conservatives defend the insurrectionists and I got crickets. Wanna try again?


Moocow won't post a single documented fact supporting their assertion Pelosi is responsible for January 6th.

Anyone who posts such comments and continues to act insulted when asked for verification of such unsubstantiated claims is not interested in proving the truth about anything. It's easier to say you're insulting them, act insulted and then take their ball and go home.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#209 » by Fury » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:03 am

Rich Rane wrote:
moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.


The man with the golden toilet definitely cares about the common man.


Does he not realize who the tax cuts were for? This is sad.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#210 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:03 am

moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.

Right, because it could NEVER be that both parties were in on it. All the vice and evil completely contained only in the centrist or left of center humans. Fascinating
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#211 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:05 am

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Rich Rane wrote:
moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.


The man with the golden toilet definitely cares about the common man.


Does he not realize who the tax cuts were for? This is sad.


Nah dude they trickled down and we are all rich now
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#212 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:06 am

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No inflation. Border was under control. No global conflicts. Seems much better than now.

Yeah, ok.


What inflation was there? What border crisis was there? What global conflicts were there?


The entire globe has been hit with inflation due to covid fallout and disruptions. It just so happens that the United States, through Biden's policies, has staved off being hit by the worst of it and a lot of the inflation happening here is due to corporate price hikes, which are now being reversed.

https://fortune.com/2024/01/20/inflation-greedflation-consumer-price-index-producer-price-index-corporate-profit/

I am not some blind Biden supporter but I prefer sensible leadership. Trump was a disaster.

Regarding the border, Trump promised to fix that situation and didn't. Why are you upset that Biden hasn't fixed it either? Do you support sensible immigration laws? Because Trump has ordered Republicans to block any attempt at fixing the border issues through Congress.

Biden is not responsible for Putin's behavior, as well as Hamas and Netenyahu's government. Trump supports Russian aggression and the IDF wiping out Gaza. Please tell me how his foreign policy is better?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#213 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:07 am

I dislike humanity so all this is great.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#214 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:08 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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nykballa2k4 wrote:Not deep state, just human reactions. There are people who are going to see Biden as frail and weak and Trump as strong "just survived a bullet" and some people will think that matters.

Also there are still people who knock on doors, make cold calls, and do things at a local level. The more of his activists participate, the more people who will make a human to human contact with an undecided voter.


The Trump campaign has no field offices or funds allocated to those operations. All of the money has been funneled back to Trump to pay his bills. The democrats have a network the GOP presently does not. Many of the GOP's state operations are completely broke.


Are there community events? like non-political ones?
These are chances for trump people to rub elbows with the small population who is unconvinced on this election. This is a big time chance to bring these people into the fold and get them to engage the same way the far right folks do. In short, this is an entry opportunity into "the rabbit hole"

The news cycle has been all about Biden. "Is he too old" "too weak" "will he survive the next four years"
to counter that, now the right has "Trump survives gunshot to the head"


We've had almost a decade of this. Nobody is going to go "oh really?" all of a sudden because some guy sitting next to you at the diner says did you know Biden ordered a hit on Trump. People are already predisposed to this kind of nonsense or they are not. There is no ripe, untapped middle waiting to be lured into the rabbit hole
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#215 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:09 am

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I asked you 3 times to explain why Trump and conservatives defend the insurrections and I got crickets. Wanna try again?


You wanna try reading my responses to the same things from others? Do I really need to copy and paste it?


You said it was antifa and I said that Trump and conservatives defend the insurrectionists. So why? You haven’t responded to that.


Trump and conservatives defend those that were protesting being either held without trial for years or sentenced to decades in prison while those that were clearly democratic plants (again caught on video inside the riots dressed as Trump supporters actively rousing and leading the Trumpers on into storming the capitol building are either not prosecuted or only had their hand slapped. That is what most Trump supporters are defending. Did you even know that a major member of Antifa as well as a former operative for the Democrats were caught on tape pretending to be Trump supporters at the protest intentionally trying to get the crowds to storm the Capitol? You didn’t right? Cause th le media didn’t want to show it.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#216 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:10 am

thebuzzardman wrote:I dislike humanity so all this is great.


If you’re excited now, wait until you hear about climate change. at least we get an entertaining show on the way out as a species
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#217 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:11 am

moocow007 wrote:For most my left I was a democrat. I believed that the Democrats were for the common man, for minorities. That the republicans were in it for the corporations and were the “deep state”. The republicans were the big bad wolf. But after seriously looking at what’s going on in the past many years it’s actually the other way around.



I don't disagree that Dems are scummy.
I am Ridin with Biden, but any time your son does coke and bangs your dead sons widow ... something went wrong...

Having said that Trump and his interactions with Russia, North Korea are frightening.
The things we have seen him do in the open -- demanding votes, offering quid quo pro's to Ukraine for Biden info, all of the things the Supreme Court (conservatives) have been getting from corporations and the ultra-wealthy in response to their decisions.
that 2025 plan that was put together by members of Trumps inner circle from his last campaign....

This is giant douche vs turd sandwich...however there is one side that is clearly more dangerous at present.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#218 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:12 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
The Trump campaign has no field offices or funds allocated to those operations. All of the money has been funneled back to Trump to pay his bills. The democrats have a network the GOP presently does not. Many of the GOP's state operations are completely broke.


Are there community events? like non-political ones?
These are chances for trump people to rub elbows with the small population who is unconvinced on this election. This is a big time chance to bring these people into the fold and get them to engage the same way the far right folks do. In short, this is an entry opportunity into "the rabbit hole"

The news cycle has been all about Biden. "Is he too old" "too weak" "will he survive the next four years"
to counter that, now the right has "Trump survives gunshot to the head"


We've had almost a decade of this. Nobody is going to go "oh really?" all of a sudden because some guy sitting next to you at the diner says did you know Biden ordered a hit on Trump. People are already predisposed to this kind of nonsense or they are not. There is no ripe, untapped middle waiting to be lured into the rabbit hole


I don't see this helping him win anything. I don't even want to vote for Biden but, I would vote for a ham sandwich before I vote for Trump. I don't even like ham sandwiches!! Corned beef on rye? Love that shyt!
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#219 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:12 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:I dislike humanity so all this is great.


If you’re excited now, wait until you hear about climate change. at least we get an entertaining show on the way out as a species


You mean the climate crisis that was supposed to wipe out humanity in a decade that’s been happening for the last 60 years?
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Post#220 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:12 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:I dislike humanity so all this is great.


If you’re excited now, wait until you hear about climate change. at least we get an entertaining show on the way out as a species


You mean the climate crisis that was supposed to wipe out humanity in a decade that’s been happening for the last 60 years?

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