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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#201 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:20 pm

Reign23 wrote:so funny that the users that talk about agendas are the ones that just pop up after losses to repeat their offseason agendas over and over and over again.


it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D
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Post#202 » by Reign23 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:22 pm

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Reign23 wrote:so funny that the users that talk about agendas are the ones that just pop up after losses to repeat their offseason agendas over and over and over again.


it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D

good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#203 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:23 pm

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Reign23 wrote:so funny that the users that talk about agendas are the ones that just pop up after losses to repeat their offseason agendas over and over and over again.


it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D

good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D


he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?
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Post#204 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:24 pm

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Gravy wrote:The last 5 minutes are Donovan Mitchell iso with one Garland iso and a Struss airball(he must be their Hart). Mobley and Allen were standing around and literally did not touch the ball once :lol:


You think they care? They have agendas to run :lol:


it's getting real silly....the coaches game plan was to "not" feed kat now ? :lol: c'mon

and don't complain about my opinion to me in 500 words like this guy did above, because i sure as sh*t aint reading it :lol:

Saying the coach’s game plan was to not feed KAT is one of the most ridiculous things I ever read on this board :lol: the agendas are crazy.
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Post#205 » by Reign23 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:27 pm

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it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D

good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D


he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

agree, he played great! he's going to make his 3rd all nba team after becoming an all star for the 5th time earlier this season.
Still can't believe we got him so cheap what about you?
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#206 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:32 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D

good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D


he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

Stop it sham. Reign has an agenda to run. He doesn’t want to hear facts. :lol:
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#207 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:32 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D


he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

agree, he played great! he's going to make his 3rd all nba team after becoming an all star for the 5th time earlier this season.
Still can't believe we got him so cheap what about you?


i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#208 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:35 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

agree, he played great! he's going to make his 3rd all nba team after becoming an all star for the 5th time earlier this season.
Still can't believe we got him so cheap what about you?


i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:

KAT is the Michael Jordan of the Nikola vucevic’s of the world.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#209 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:36 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:This is circular reasoning. People can double and triple Karl, proving our system isn't the problem. But the system, or poor judgement, makes it easier to double and triple Karl.


if someone double or triple teams you that means someone is open. that becomes an advantage. that's what you want in basketball. what are we doing here ? :lol:


Not when there's a guy standing on the perimeter too shook to shoot and not capable of taking the centers opposing coaches are putting on him off the dribble, get to the hole. Then the ball just moves around, gets back to the only guy ballsy enough to heave a shot at the end of the clock, and he takes it.

That's our **** offense. Josh's man is doubling, and never going back to him, because they are fine with him bricking shots and getting turnovers from his stupid jump passes and terrible ball handling. His best attribute is finishing in transition, which is why he'd be awesome with the bench.

If we get by this team, Boston's entire game plan is going to be around Josh Hart taking shots. I spoke about this after game one of the season, this is what they do to every team. Anybody who dares to come inside will face a wall, and Josh will be left open by Horford to jack up whatever he wants. We will be destroyed. This logic that the guy is open...ok...sure...go ahead...take 40 shots. The Celtics dare you.

We are not going anywhere until this coach realizes that a two bit role player shouldn't be starting and getting 40 plus **** minutes a game for his measly single digit points and bull **** chase down without boxing anybody out and leaving corner threes wide open rebounds, especially when you have a 7 foot monster sitting on the bench that was handled with bubble wrap all season for this time of the year.

His best coaching comes when it's his type of team on the floor, he has the pieces but he's not using them because Lord knows wtf Josh has on him. They need to get back to playing with size, crashing the boards and playing bully ball. This cutesy fake 5 out lineup he has out there is going to be his demise. Put Kat and OG back in their natural positions, and have the best offensive rebounder in the NBA get your point guard's misses....because you have nothing else on offense.

There is no purpose of playing Kat at the 5 only TO GET OUT REBOUNDED BY 14. You do that to draw out the other team's center and create driving lanes for your guards and make it easier for them on offense. THEY ARE PUTTING THE CENTER ON YOUR BUM ASS SMALL FORWARD and still preventing this. This is not going to work with him in there. Put the guy in there that can give them the same taste of their medicine and lock up the rim, because their center is not on the perimeter anyway like he's supposed to because the other coach is playing chess with the matchups.

Jesus **** Christ. Am I (Please Use More Appropriate Word)? Is this coach that brilliant that I'm too stupid to know wtf he's doing? Even with my points, I still don't like it. With this amount of talent, there has to be something better than playing struggle basketball. We aren't these Pistons or last year's injury riddled team, yet seem to have to play the same way for any success.


Tl;dr? Thibs sucks.
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Post#210 » by Reign23 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

agree, he played great! he's going to make his 3rd all nba team after becoming an all star for the 5th time earlier this season.
Still can't believe we got him so cheap what about you?


i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:

in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?
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Post#211 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:41 pm

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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#212 » by LFGK » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:41 pm

so to sum things up on here

Thibs is awful
Brunson doesnt pass
Kat sucks and Randle was better
Bridges should be an 8th man
McBride is small
OG is old and slow
Mitch cant play D anymore
Shamet cant shoot
Payne Dances to much
Leon is an idiot
Dolan is an awful owner
Chopped Cheese is no good
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Post#213 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:56 pm

Reign23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:agree, he played great! he's going to make his 3rd all nba team after becoming an all star for the 5th time earlier this season.
Still can't believe we got him so cheap what about you?


i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:

in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?


mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.
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Post#214 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:57 pm

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Reign23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
it's not an agenda when you're proven right. good morning reign.....or afternoon where you are. :D

good morning sham!
I am curious what you were thinking about KATs game 1 performance, since I missed your posts it seems like :D


he was great in that 4th quarter. he actually tried to play defense and did so pretty well. which lets me know he could have been doing that all year, and frankly his whole career, and didn't. what does that say about him ?

To add on to this: KAT let players shoot 70%!! on him in game 2 and had by far the worst net rating in the starting lineup at -18. It’s the usual by KAT.
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Post#215 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:05 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:

in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?


mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.


Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/MITCH sending Hart to the bench.

I would think you would be all about that lineup.
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Post#216 » by Wildcat » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:09 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?


mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.


Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/MITCH sending Hart to the bench.

I would think you would be all about that lineup.


I feel like I take crazy pills because the bench needs a Hart and it seems like the obvious move. And I feel kind of pissed off about it because I feel like Hart should recognize this and say, "Thibs, put me on the bench. I want to be your super 6th man." OG, Mikal, and he are playing out of position as starters.
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Post#217 » by god shammgod » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:10 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?


mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.


Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/MITCH sending Hart to the bench.

I would think you would be all about that lineup.


i think he will do that eventually. coaches just don't rush these things.
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Post#218 » by Reign23 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:19 pm

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Reign23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i notice you didn't answer the question :lol:

i think centers that are terrible at defense, no matter how they good they are on offense, limit your team. you're never getting that far. jokic is the only guy who has ever made it work and he's gonna go down as a top 10 player (maybe better) of all time. kat isn't that. so just like the wolves realized, unless you move him to the 4 you're going nowhere. but maybe they actually did that because they have an agenda :lol:

in all honesty I agree that its is more difficult to win when your PG and C are weak defenders. no doubt about that. tho, if you have 3 good to great defenders to cover them.. it is still possible to win it all. I just think that they (meaning Leon and his crew) severely overrated Mikal (AND Josh!) on the defensive end. you agree?


mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.

yeah, but I think we are mainly on the same page here. the wrong move was just the boatload of picks for Mikal. If you had just attached 1-2 picks for a Brooks, Caruso type, you would be in way better shape. Better fit alongside Brunson/Towns. If there is a bigger fish to get, you would still be able to get him by moving KAT + picks then.
But you do KAT for Randle, DDV and the protected DET pick every time. if this version goes wrong, you can still adjust and start him at the 4 next season.
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#219 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:22 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
mikal was overrated in every way and josh probably shouldn't be starting with his offensive limitations in the first place. but who else is there to start ? duece is too small. you wanna start landry shamet ?

and i don't know if you could even get, and afford, to have 3 og level defenders would it be enough to make you good defensively.

but even besides that, i really don't think that jalen and kat are gonna be a good enough offensive tandem to win it all with their defensive limitations. neither one is top 5 player. you would need an mvp level talent to overcome that. kat is a good offensive player but good enough to win it all with alongside brunson ? i don't think so. the knicks needed to hold out for someone better. and if they never came, at least you have all your picks and can pivot in a couple years.


Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/MITCH sending Hart to the bench.

I would think you would be all about that lineup.


i think he will do that eventually. coaches just don't rush these things.


He's got 3 games left to figure it out. 5 at the absolute most but, go ahead coach, take your time. :lol:
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Re: GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM) 

Post#220 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:28 pm

If only we still had Randle to protect the rim for us and all those precious picks to build a contender when the time is right in 2034… If only we wouldn’t be trying this right now. I don’t care how Towns played in game 1 and that Mikal was our best player for most of the last game. He missed the shot and we’re doomed forever. We’ll never improve.

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