MrDollarBills wrote:god shammgod wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
But what was made very clear by this season and playoff run is that we need to play basketball like we're in 2025 and not 2005, and I support any hire that brings us into the present day NBA.
no offense but this is sort of a thing that people repeat that isn't really true. unless you think an awful lot of the coaches in the last couple of years don't coach modern basketball. because a lot of them are awfully similar to thibs and rely on a lot of the same principles.
there are legit complaints about thibs involving minutes played, his ability to forge relationships with players, giving players too much freedom on offense, etc. but this whole can't coach "modern basketball" thing is sort of a cliche that people just say. you're really saying you want more passing or more motion off ball or want to play at a faster pace. but you need the personnel for those kind of things. we couldn't play like the pacers with our roster and put their roster in the half court and they're not too good.
i don't know what your age is but the knicks had this idea once before. they hired don nelson and they were gonna stop running the offense through ewing and make anthony mason play point forward and change how they play. it didn't last long before they realized what a mistake it was. i say all that to say this, it might just be the case that jalen brunson can only really be jalen brunson if you let him dominate the ball.
No offense taken but I completely disagree with you. The offense Tom had us running was absolute garbage, those super short rotations in the regular season were nonsensical, and frankly it was ugly basketball. It (his style of offense) worked the last two seasons with Brunson and Randle, but adding KAT, OG, and Mikal in the mix meant that things needed to change and they didn't.
Hence why we are here now trying to find a new coach. The way you and other folks kept acting like this stuff was great baffled me and I couldn't tell if you all were serious or you were just trying to gaslight and troll, because most people saw these issues from Game 1 when we got blown off the floor by Boston, but I digress.
Jeff Teague literally called this out before Leon made his move.
This didn't happen in a vacuum. Anyone looking at this team objectively saw that there were serious problems and Tom's stubbornness had a lot to do with it.
Anyway, this thread is to focus on the new hire, not litigate the past so I'll leave it here because there is a separate thread to discuss Tom's performance and I don't wanna be one of the people who add to the constant derailment of threads that happens on here.
Counter-arguments used to minimize Thibs shortcomings were typically stated as our roster is flawed, therefore the coach is only partly responsible for any specific issues being brought up.
This tends to be disingenuous in many respects for many tangible reasons. Having the highest minutes per starting unit in the NBA is strictly a coaching factor. Only occasionally adjusting strategy on both ends of the court when the other teams tend to adjust in real time or at a minimum game to game. Having the shortest rotation in the NBA and then finding out too late in the playoffs to matter that this was not due to having no contributors available on the bench, but due solely to the coach's philosophy.
Of course, we could go on and re-litigate the past, but the goal should having a modernized coaching system that bypasses all of these flaws due to coaching that MAXIMIZES EXISTING TALENT.
The core issue for the new coach should be building systems suited to the talents of the players we have, something Thibs was largely incapable of because he was pounding square pegs into round holes.
Not unrelated is being able to identify roles for existing talent tends to find minutes for young players to develop them.
* We have a Brunson Burner™ * 
