Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[Clyde Frazier]

Yeah I mean learning to not jump at everything should be part of his development. He'd still be an elite rim protector by altering shots and keeping guys out of the paint. You can already tell shooters starting to get hesitant around him.

It usually drops off though as guys get older, cause altering shots without blocking them gives you less blocks, obviously, but keeps your fouls down and doesn't have a negative effect on defense

Case in point, Serge Ibaka. Averaged almost 4 bpg at 22, then 3 the next year, never got above 3 a game again despite being healthy and playing more minutes

I'd be surprised if he averages more than 2.5 a game in his prime, but he's gonna be an elite defender even if he doesn't put up historic block numbers.

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Right, basically the elite CB effect... shut down your opponent to the point they never test you.

I actually expect his blocks to go down as he becomes a better defender. In the sense of not just altering shots, but passing lanes and other things that don’t show up on regular stat sheets.

Yeah, we really don't talk about his steals much. It isn't hyperbole to say we could see him in Hakeem/Robinson steal+block territory, or at the very least Marion/Garnett.

[Phish Tank]

It usually drops off though as guys get older, cause altering shots without blocking them gives you less blocks, obviously, but keeps your fouls down and doesn't have a negative effect on defense

Case in point, Serge Ibaka. Averaged almost 4 bpg at 22, then 3 the next year, never got above 3 a game again despite being healthy and playing more minutes

I'd be surprised if he averages more than 2.5 a game in his prime, but he's gonna be an elite defender even if he doesn't put up historic block numbers.

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Right, basically the elite CB effect... shut down your opponent to the point they never test you.

I actually expect his blocks to go down as he becomes a better defender. In the sense of not just altering shots, but passing lanes and other things that don’t show up on regular stat sheets.

Yeah, we really don't talk about his steals much. It isn't hyperbole to say we could see him in Hakeem/Robinson steal+block territory, or at the very least Marion/Garnett.

Yeah we haven’t fully seen that part of his game yet either

[awy]

the steals speaks to his quick instinct/awareness of on court situations. he’s made a bunch of plays where he defends 3 guys in one play as it develops. quick reactions even tho he probably doesnt recognize the full plays yet.

besides length and quickness, mitch has to be ready to pounce when the timing develops to make steals. that sort of anticipation is required, but not sufficient, for a really high ceiling player.

[thebuzzardman]

So if we get Zion you'd trade him Mitch, DSJ, Trier, 2 future firsts for AD?

No. If the Knicks got Zion they should keep him.

My theoretical is around the Knicks picking 3-5 (feels most likely) and landing a SG.

Then MAYBE if the trade is constructed the right way and they retain certain players, maybe. Like DSJr could go but not Trier (players who get downhill to the rim).

The good news is, I don't think AD wants anything to do with the Knicks, or anyone not named "The Lakers" so I don't worry it too much.

I think the more likely scenario is the Knicks package up two young guys and some filler for a Tobias Harris/Middleton TYPE, of the type where they are paid around 12-15 million - not what Harris gets or will command now, nor Middleton. Not sure who those guys are in the league, but I could see that happening. Like a stretch 4 guy - I know Middleton isn't one. I mean that kind of talent level, where the guys are good, but not yet maxed out, yet somehow get traded. Or, barring that, no trades at all. It's not a particular rush - stuff like this could happen 2nd season with KD & Kyrie - if that even happens. Which at this point, I don't really care about either way.

Gallo?

Probably a little past his prime at this point, but an interesting choice

[newyorker4ever]

Could M.Robinson be a cornerstone for Knicks?

Pretty good read on M.Robinson and if we could build around him or with him as our starting center.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2823005-2018-drafts-most-mysterious-prospect-could-be-a-cornerstone-for-knicks

2018 Draft's Most Mysterious Prospect Could Be a Cornerstone for Knicks
JONATHAN WASSERMAN
MARCH 9, 2019


New York — The Knicks have found an unlikely source of hope in rookie center Mitchell Robinson, who is putting up historic rim-protection numbers.

The 2018 second-round pick is protecting the rim from both traditional and unconventional spots on the floor.

Since 1946, only Manute Bol has finished a rookie season with a block percentage higher than 10.0 (minimum 40 games), but Robinson is blocking 10.6 percent of his opponents' two-point attempts. He also entered March leading the league with 13 three-point rejections, per ESPN's Zach Lowe. As ESPN's Ian Begley pointed out, that's one more than Ben Simmons and Jrue Holiday, both of whom have logged over 2,000 minutes. Robinson had just 900 minutes played as of Wednesday.

With any rookie, there's usually a catch. Robinson is fouling 6.1 times per 36 minutes, but there's a silver lining: He's making plays at historic rates without any grasp of defensive fundamentals.

Robinson is like a chicken without a head—never still, and so active that he's frequently in the right position to ignite his leaping, length and motor to make a play on the ball. He possesses the sort of functional athleticism and upside you'd expect to find in a lottery pick.

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"the 46 fans who still watch them tank" thats us

[Besart19]

Never stop being grateful to Buss (Phil), Pelinka and Magic

[BallSacBounce]

So, Is Mitchell at the untradeable point yet? Has to be, with that contract, yepper. Sorry Pelicans you can't touch this.

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So, Is Mitchell at the untradeable point yet? Has to be, with that contract, yepper. Sorry Pelicans you can't touch this.

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<Money Mitch is closing in on the #2 spot....

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<Money Mitch is closing in on the #2 spot....

Mitch doing it in 18.8 mpg while Myles averaging 28.5 mpg

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<Money Mitch is closing in on the #2 spot....

Mitch doing it in 18.8 mpg while Myles averaging 28.5 mpg

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[Cookies4Life]

DSJ and Frank should be starting alongside MItch. Those 2 guys will get Robinson involved a lot more on the offensive end.

I like Dotson and he's shown to be an effective player but his defense is overrated and he has no playmaking ability. Him and Mudiay rarely, if ever, get Mitchell involved on the offensive end. I'd rather have 2 playmakers in the back court that'll feed this monster in the paint more.

Mitchell can be a 2 way monster in this league if he develops some kind of jumper and/or postgame. It'll require him being more involved offensively though. At times it looks like his teammates almost freeze him out on that side of the ball which is a shame considering how much effort he gives on the defensive side.

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That's really impressive considering Patrick was a very polished player coming out of Georgetown and he was constantly compared to Bill Russell for his defensive and rebounding abilities. Mitchell is in elite company, no doubt.