*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

[Knicks80_20]

Would seem so, but most sources saying Knicks don't plan on matching. We'll have to wait and see.

And you're depending on "sources" instead of basic logic here? Those sources got plenty wrong so far.

And you're relying on Dolan to use "basic logic," when it comes to roster choices? Not saying you're wrong, and I do think there's a very real possibility of us retaining Lin, but I'm not ruling anything out at the moment.

[Clyde_Style]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

[daBockas]

Best PG's in the world according to who? Most people, including myself, who watch European basketball know Prigioni is done.

So is Kidd and Camby and Kurt Thomas according to the negatrons on this board. We're talking about spot minutes and if he's done, then the Knicks got themselves a guy who is still better than Bibby and that is some depth at a bargain price.

Seriously, how can u say for certain he's better than bibby, like I said no one in the world has seen prigioni play in the NBA. Bibby wasn't great but he was better than toney. It's not like prigioni is younger than bibby.

All I'm saying is people are reserving rotation minutes for a guy who may very well never play substantive minutes and shouldn't count out that we might have Lin Felton and Kidd with no regard to prigionis PT

[Clyde_Style]

Would seem so, but most sources saying Knicks don't plan on matching. We'll have to wait and see.

And you're depending on "sources" instead of basic logic here? Those sources got plenty wrong so far.

And you're relying on Dolan to use "basic logic," when it comes to roster choices? Not saying you're wrong, and I do think there's a very real possibility of us retaining Lin, but I'm not ruling anything out at the moment.

Yeah, but when a regular poster shows up and you report Lin won't be matched because of sources, you're not being very helpful to those trying to get into the loop. That is not enough context to inform people if that is what you'd like to do. That's all. It is not reliable information and just as speculative as anything said here.

[ITALIA17]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

IDGAF. Point blank I dont like seeing players overpaid when they have proved NOTHING. If he turns out to be a total bust next season and so on, were stuck with that. A guy who made the MIN last year. You dont get rewarded for a half a season

[ibraheim718]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

Also.. how much of a deal did we get this year? 5 games of extra revenue because of him and even in however many games he ended up playing he far, far outplayed the several hundred grand he made this past season.

[No35]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Dolan would be pleased to see such an ardent defender of his money.

[Knox]

Look realistically on paper Lin is an unproven commodity but its tough to me as a fan because I believe in the kid. I think he will work hard, study the game, and is very coachable. I think he can be a legit stud pg in time .

[Knicks80_20]

Yeah, but when a regular poster shows up and you report Lin won't be matched because of sources, you're not being very helpful to those trying to get into the loop. That is not enough context to inform people if that is what you'd like to do. That's all. It is not reliable information and just as speculative as anything said here.

I didn't say Lin wouldn't be matched. I informed him that most media outlets are reporting that he won't be matched and that we'll have to "wait and see." How is this misinformation? Come on, Clyde, I know it's late, but give me some credit here .

[knickfan212]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

The first two years he's a bargain, and the last year of his contract is a massive expiring contract that could be very useful if he doesn't pan out. Regardless we'll be over the cap because of Amare, Tyson, and Melo's contract. This would be out of Dolan's pockets, not ours.

[ibraheim718]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

IDGAF. Point blank I dont like seeing players overpaid when they have proved NOTHING. If he turns out to be a total bust next season and so on, were stuck with that. A guy who made the MIN last year. You dont get rewarded for a half a season

It's far worse seeing guys come up small (or punching fire extinguishers) when you need them to come up big already guaranteed to make 100mil each.

[MeloTime]

Why do people think Dolan cares about paying LUX Tax ? Why do people care if he DOES have to pay it for ONE year ? Who cares what Dolan pays. He paid 180 million payroll for marbury,zach,curry and crew, Lin will be back !

Also

Kidd/Felton
Lin/Smith

until Shump comes back. Kidd time decreases until playoffs and so does Feltons.

[Clyde_Style]

Yeah, but when a regular poster shows up and you report Lin won't be matched because of sources, you're not being very helpful to those trying to get into the loop. That is not enough context to inform people if that is what you'd like to do. That's all. It is not reliable information and just as speculative as anything said here.

I didn't say Lin wouldn't be matched. I informed him that most media outlets are reporting that he won't be matched and that we'll have to "wait and see." How is this misinformation? Come on, Clyde, I know it's late, but give me some credit here .

Not really busting your chops, just saying with the tools coming out in force, you can't be too careful about spreading unsubstantiated information.

[Knicks80_20]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

IDGAF. Point blank I dont like seeing players overpaid when they have proved NOTHING. If he turns out to be a total bust next season and so on, were stuck with that. A guy who made the MIN last year. You dont get rewarded for a half a season

No, point blank you still feel sour over media bs that started the "Lin team vs. Melo's team," nonsense. You've said it yourself in this very thread. Accept the fact that that was nonsense, get over the butthurt, and move on.

[imborj]

maybe prigioni will play spot mins at 2?

but then again theres james white and jr.

[ibraheim718]

That group of bums and that bum of a coach last year needed a kid from the D-league who had already been cut twice to save their season and he's the one that's unproven?

[Clyde_Style]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

IDGAF. Point blank I dont like seeing players overpaid when they have proved NOTHING. If he turns out to be a total bust next season and so on, were stuck with that. A guy who made the MIN last year. You dont get rewarded for a half a season

So you don't give a F because you've picked this single point while ignoring why it is not an actual problem for the franchise to handle contractually. You want to complain about rewarding a player you don't think is proven, yet the Knicks wouldn't have sniffed the playoffs without Lin. He singlehandedly saved the season from a total meltdown while our $100M man who "earned" his contract was AWOL and you want to harp about relative values?

[Guano]

There is a tool fest here claiming Lin is gone. Actually, odds are he is not, so don't listen to the BS. I wouldn't be suprised at this point if there aren't some agents of rumor spreading among the posters popping up now, because most of the stuff being said to explain why Lin is gone sounds like grade school counter-espionage, not sensible talk from actual Knicks fans. Felton is not a very good PG and if you believe the Knicks will take their investment in everyone else and put them on Raymond's shoulders, then you're believing a pretty far-fetched scenario. The Knicks would have to be stone cold idiots to not match contrary to some comments here.

Didn't we have an absurd pay role a couple years ago when are team was dreadful, why would we be concerned with pay role when we have a contender. I have very little doubts that we will match Lin's offer, especially when he can cover his cost- financially and on the court.

[21shumpst]

I want a dead ass YES or NO from people, because I find it insane personally.

Does anyone realistically think LIN is worth 15 MILLION in one year after only playing not even half a season. Add the tax to that and the number is higher. Get rid of the lin love and think for a min

Id say NoNOOOOO

Still talking about one year? GEEZUS CHRIST! He gets paid 5 and 5 the first two years for an average of over 8M a year, pretty much what was expected. And if you haven't yet educated yourself about why the Knicks will have tons of expirings several seasons from now giving them many trade opportunities and why this can actually work for them with a larger backend contract, why don't you go study up instead of spouting this silly garbage about Lin being overpriced in the last year.

IDGAF. Point blank I dont like seeing players overpaid when they have proved NOTHING. If he turns out to be a total bust next season and so on, were stuck with that. A guy who made the MIN last year. You dont get rewarded for a half a season

So I guess every 1st round draft pick that gets a multimillion dollar deal must really piss you off, especially since they haven't played 1 minute in the NBA much less half a season.

[xclearscreen]

There is a tool fest here claiming Lin is gone. Actually, odds are he is not, so don't listen to the BS. I wouldn't be suprised at this point if there aren't some agents of rumor spreading among the posters popping up now, because most of the stuff being said to explain why Lin is gone sounds like grade school counter-espionage, not sensible talk from actual Knicks fans. Felton is not a very good PG and if you believe the Knicks will take their investment in everyone else and put them on Raymond's shoulders, then you're believing a pretty far-fetched scenario. The Knicks would have to be stone cold idiots to not match contrary to some comments here.

agreed. i have a feeling lin will be matched. maybe ny feels they have a real shot at the chip and so they are making a serious run by loading up on talents before everybody's contract ends in 3 years. maybe money is no concern at this point to them.

then again, maybe they decided not to pay the premium for lin and reduce the pg role altogether and just focus on melo and woody's system. maybe they are buying into the whole iso gameplan (which could work with the right pieces).