OT: The WWE Thread

poeman · Post #2101 » by **poeman** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:05 am

What potential there was right at the end when Rollins came in...When he did the curb stomp I got excited...Too bad the WWE made this a DQ and then there was no ringing the bell or whatever.

That was just crap.

Either way I am a huge fan of Rollins...More so then Ambrose, I am a Rollins guy! Just love how he sells his moves and just a great wrestler.

My prediction...

Rollins is going to apologize to Brock and say it was a mistake on Raw.
Cena vs Rollins during Hell in a Cell...Gives Ambrose more time to finish his film. (Rollins still Money in the Bank)
Orton gets his WWE championship rematch but with Brock for the title after demanding it from Triple H

poeman · Post #2102 » by **poeman** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:07 am

ctorres wrote:So bummed Ziggler dropped the title to The Miz

Just reeks of Vince...What a terrible decision. Worst of the night.

That and Paige yelling out loud "AJ you ready" "OK 1...2...3 (Nikki comes for the suplex)"

It was a ghosttown in the arena and Paige was yelling out calls throughout the match...Needs to learn to be quiet

Kobe System · Post #2103 » by **Kobe System** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:27 am

poeman wrote:What potential there was right at the end when Rollins came in...When he did the curb stomp I got excited...Too bad the WWE made this a DQ and then there was no ringing the bell or whatever.

That was just crap.

Either way I am a huge fan of Rollins...More so then Ambrose, I am a Rollins guy! Just love how he sells his moves and just a great wrestler.

My prediction...

Rollins is going to apologize to Brock and say it was a mistake on Raw.
Cena vs Rollins during Hell in a Cell...Gives Ambrose more time to finish his film. (Rollins still Money in the Bank)
Orton gets his WWE championship rematch but with Brock for the title after demanding it from Triple H

I am thinking Brock vs. Cena III. Hell in a cell match so that no one from outside can interfere. Cena wins. Brock goes AWOL again. Could be a triple threat with Orton. Rollins will have Ambrose.

Moose · Post #2104 » by **Moose** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:20 am

Ruzious wrote:I don't think any of that goes against anything I said. But a lot of what you're giving Bret Hart credit for are things that were decided for him - not by him.

I know he came up with the Bulldog ending. And I remember a story of how he came up with the finish to another match (can't remember which - maybe when he beat Perfect for the IC title)...his wife was sleeping and he wanted to see if he could effectively put on the sharpshooter while laying down...so he used her as the test dummy.

I don't know how much of these guys come up with their own material, but as far as I know...that's a big part of the job. Sure, maybe the result of the match is already determined for them, but a lot of times they tell the story of how it should go...at least that's what I think...maybe someone else could help shed more light on this.

Post #2105 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:34 am

Kobe System wrote:
poeman wrote:What potential there was right at the end when Rollins came in...When he did the curb stomp I got excited...Too bad the WWE made this a DQ and then there was no ringing the bell or whatever.

That was just crap.

Either way I am a huge fan of Rollins...More so then Ambrose, I am a Rollins guy! Just love how he sells his moves and just a great wrestler.

My prediction...

Rollins is going to apologize to Brock and say it was a mistake on Raw.
Cena vs Rollins during Hell in a Cell...Gives Ambrose more time to finish his film. (Rollins still Money in the Bank)
Orton gets his WWE championship rematch but with Brock for the title after demanding it from Triple H

I am thinking Brock vs. Cena III. Hell in a cell match so that no one from outside can interfere. Cena wins. Brock goes AWOL again. Could be a triple threat with Orton. Rollins will have Ambrose.

To both points, after watching everything, the WWE basically had no choice but to make it a DQ. They werent going to have Brock totally dismantle Cena in one PPV - give him a shiny new belt, only to lose it in the next PPV. That wouldn't make sense.

So if they cant make Cena win, the only option is make it a DQ. No true winner or loser and it buys them several weeks.

But to Kobe Systems's point, I was thinking the same with Brock and Cena for HIAC. No interference from outside and the WWE works this up as the ultimate rubber match. But I am not sure now if Cena just simply wins and then shelve Brock.

Quite frankly the WWE is really in trouble with their current storylines at the moment due to the fact that their biggest Faces are all watching at home in a bandages. (Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns, and pun included CM Punk)

They currently have a lot of strong heels, but few Faces outside of Ambrose and Cena who is a polarized figure. Ambrose is in between shooting movies so it just leaves Cena. That's basically the issue right now. The WWE has done an excellent job is adding heat to the Heels, but their non development of new guys or other smaller faces, have made things poor in my opinion.

In this case though its not fully their fault. The injuries suck. They may have to make Randy Orton a face again to balance things out. Even though Randy is like 100 times better as a heel than he is as a face but they dont have many options.

Kobe System · Post #2106 » by **Kobe System** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:20 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
Kobe System wrote:
poeman wrote:What potential there was right at the end when Rollins came in...When he did the curb stomp I got excited...Too bad the WWE made this a DQ and then there was no ringing the bell or whatever.

That was just crap.

Either way I am a huge fan of Rollins...More so then Ambrose, I am a Rollins guy! Just love how he sells his moves and just a great wrestler.

My prediction...

Rollins is going to apologize to Brock and say it was a mistake on Raw.
Cena vs Rollins during Hell in a Cell...Gives Ambrose more time to finish his film. (Rollins still Money in the Bank)
Orton gets his WWE championship rematch but with Brock for the title after demanding it from Triple H

I am thinking Brock vs. Cena III. Hell in a cell match so that no one from outside can interfere. Cena wins. Brock goes AWOL again. Could be a triple threat with Orton. Rollins will have Ambrose.

To both points, after watching everything, the WWE basically had no choice but to make it a DQ. They werent going to have Brock totally dismantle Cena in one PPV - give him a shiny new belt, only to lose it in the next PPV. That wouldn't make sense.

So if they cant make Cena win, the only option is make it a DQ. No true winner or loser and it buys them several weeks.

But to Kobe Systems's point, I was thinking the same with Brock and Cena for HIAC. No interference from outside and the WWE works this up as the ultimate rubber match. But I am not sure now if Cena just simply wins and then shelve Brock.

Quite frankly the WWE is really in trouble with their current storylines at the moment due to the fact that their biggest Faces are all watching at home in a bandages. (Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns, and pun included CM Punk)

They currently have a lot of strong heels, but few Faces outside of Ambrose and Cena who is a polarized figure. Ambrose is in between shooting movies so it just leaves Cena. That's basically the issue right now. The WWE has done an excellent job is adding heat to the Heels, but their non development of new guys or other smaller faces, have made things poor in my opinion.

In this case though its not fully their fault. The injuries suck. They may have to make Randy Orton a face again to balance things out. Even though Randy is like 100 times better as a heel than he is as a face but they dont have many options.

Yes, I can't take of anyone but Cena that can stand a chance against Brock. Specially on a PPV event. Big Show? Nah. Probably Rusev. But still a no. Without Reigns, Bryan and Punk, there is no one but Cena that is marketable enough to face Brock in HITC.

I am thinking (HITC):

Brock vs. Cena III
Ambrose vs. Rollins
Rusev vs. Big Show

frogfood · Post #2107 » by **frogfood** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:21 pm

Cena's match vs Brock was pretty good IMO. I was pulling for him HARD.

The opener, Cesaro vs Sheamus, was great too.

omerome · Post #2108 » by **omerome** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:38 pm

frogfood wrote:Cena's match vs Brock was pretty good IMO. I was pulling for him HARD.

The opener, Cesaro vs Sheamus, was great too.

Those were the only two matches that I enjoyed yesterday. I wanted Brock to destroy Cena once and for all. I'm so tired of Cena always getting main events. Even though Brock's moveset is limited, Cena is soooo boring and corny to watch.

The Mark Henry/Rusev match was a huge disappointment.

frogfood · Post #2109 » by **frogfood** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:04 pm

omerome wrote:
frogfood wrote:Cena's match vs Brock was pretty good IMO. I was pulling for him HARD.

The opener, Cesaro vs Sheamus, was great too.

Those were the only two matches that I enjoyed yesterday. I wanted Brock to destroy Cena once and for all. I'm so tired of Cena always getting main events. Even though Brock's moveset is limited, Cena is soooo boring and corny to watch.

The Mark Henry/Rusev match was a huge disappointment.

Hating on Cena is OFN. I'm a chain gang soldier for life. Sorry cuzzzzzz.

You shocked a Mark Henry match disappointed? I feel the shine on Rusev, as impressive as his agility is, is wearing off. 80s style heat, already dead heat.

T-d0t · Post #2110 » by **T-d0t** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:31 pm

If Lesnar wasn't a part timer I'd have no complaints about him keeping the title, beating undertaker etc

Heat3 · Post #2111 » by **Heat3** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:11 pm

i liked the ending though i was hoping ambrose would come out and ruin Rollins cash in over Lesnar. instead he cashed in without cashing in so they an keep that thing going for a while longer.

:thumbsup:

for Lana for finding a way to show some more leg in a PPV :lol:

big

for mark henry crying during the anthem.
:evil:

to that turd rusev for winning yet again. f him

was an enjoyable ppv overall.

KnickSon75 · Post #2112 » by **KnickSon75** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:03 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTmXBBj6PMQ[/youtube]

Bill Pidto · Post #2113 » by **Bill Pidto** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:02 pm

T-d0t wrote:If Lesnar wasn't a part timer I'd have no complaints about him keeping the title, beating undertaker etc

The part-timer thing works, man. It gives the belt some mystique.

When someone finally takes it from him, it will be special.

Meat · Post #2114 » by **Meat** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:18 pm

T-d0t wrote:If Lesnar wasn't a part timer I'd have no complaints about him keeping the title, beating undertaker etc

transitive properties, it would be too much pressure for a full timer to break the streak.

Trav_NYK · Post #2115 » by **Trav_NYK** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:36 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:
T-d0t wrote:If Lesnar wasn't a part timer I'd have no complaints about him keeping the title, beating undertaker etc

The part-timer thing works, man. It gives the belt some mystique.

When someone finally takes it from him, it will be special.

Yeah I too like the fact that the belt is being held by a part timer in Brock Lesnar. It makes the hype around the next PPV to be bigger and Heyman being on every raw to talk for Brock still works.

Trav_NYK · Post #2116 » by **Trav_NYK** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:38 pm

KnickSon75 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTmXBBj6PMQ[/youtube]

These graphics look great, and I like that 2k put a lot more expression in the wrestlers; and that part when bray is doing that spider walk thing he does was awesome lol cant wait to get this game along with the ps4 lol

IMAN5 · Post #2117 » by **IMAN5** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:10 pm

bray and HHH look great.

ctorres · Post #2118 » by **ctorres** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:15 pm

I have no problem with Lesnar at all. I think he's been highly misunderstood and there a loads of misconceptions about the guy. To say he's not passionate about the WWE and that he's only there for a paycheck to me is totally bogus. You can't become as great as Lesnar is and work matches with such precision without giving a damn.

If Lesnar only wanted money, then he wouldn't have cared about being champion. I really feel that Lesnar regained his passion for wrestling after being given the honor of breaking the streak. It definitely had to make him feel a lot more appreciated.

Meat · Post #2119 » by **Meat** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:43 pm

ctorres wrote:I have no problem with Lesnar at all. I think he's been highly misunderstood and there a loads of misconceptions about the guy. To say he's not passionate about the WWE and that he's only there for a paycheck to me is totally bogus. You can't become as great as Lesnar is and work matches with such precision without giving a damn.

If Lesnar only wanted money, then he wouldn't have cared about being champion. I really feel that Lesnar regained his passion for wrestling after being given the honor of breaking the streak. It definitely had to make him feel a lot more appreciated.

it's overblown, he's a simple farm boy, it's not that he hates the wwe, he doesnt want to be away from his family for 250 days out the year

HarthorneWingo · Post #2120 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:31 pm

Meat wrote:
ctorres wrote:I have no problem with Lesnar at all. I think he's been highly misunderstood and there a loads of misconceptions about the guy. To say he's not passionate about the WWE and that he's only there for a paycheck to me is totally bogus. You can't become as great as Lesnar is and work matches with such precision without giving a damn.

If Lesnar only wanted money, then he wouldn't have cared about being champion. I really feel that Lesnar regained his passion for wrestling after being given the honor of breaking the streak. It definitely had to make him feel a lot more appreciated.

it's overblown, he's a simple farm boy, it's not that he hates the wwe, he doesnt want to be away from his family for 250 days out the year

Does he prior stomach injury have anything to do with it?