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What should the Knicks approach be with Frank

Try to develop until prime years (~26) - essentially hold until it's 100% clear what he is
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Hold and try to develop until the end of rookie contract
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Hold until season's end/middle of next season to make a decision
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Look to trade him now for assets and/or a salary dump
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Other
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2101 » by taj2133 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:17 pm

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taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.

You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?

I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2102 » by GONYK » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:20 pm

taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.

You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?

I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2103 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.

You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?


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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2104 » by Richard4444 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:26 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.

You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?


Maybe a conditional deal has been verbally made before trade deadline. For example, if Spurs get the playoff spot, they trade their pick for Frank. If Spurs get a lottery pick, they rather keep it. But they prefer Frank than a 17-24 pick.

To not risk injuries, Frank has been shot down.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2105 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:26 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?

I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.


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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2106 » by taj2133 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:30 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:You think Frank waited until after the trade deadline to demand a trade?

I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2107 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:31 pm

taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.


Good if true. Send him to DAL. I can finally see the Doncic KP Frank duo I was hoping for.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2108 » by FlashFlood » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm

Frank's like a nice-to-have bench rotation player. If your team is winning you need guys like Frank.

If youre tanking, you have no need for him and he cane be shuffled.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2109 » by GONYK » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:34 pm

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GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.


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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2110 » by Phish Tank » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:36 pm

taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.


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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2111 » by GONYK » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:36 pm

taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I think before deadline ,frank got benched those three games that he wasn't effective and fizdale bench him. I also believe he probably asked to get traded at deadline 2 when the knicks got dsj.

So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.

If Frank doesn't play again this season, why would his value be higher in the summer?
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Post#2112 » by taj2133 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:38 pm

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taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.


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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2113 » by taj2133 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:41 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.

If Frank doesn't play again this season, why would his value be higher in the summer?

A playoff team like the jazz could use young prospect then rather draft somebody in the 20-30 range and he is still young.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2114 » by LeStud » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:48 pm

taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.

If Frank doesn't play again this season, why would his value be higher in the summer?

A playoff team like the jazz could use young prospect then rather draft somebody in the 20-30 range and he is still young.
Teams are NOT giving up a late 1st for Frank.

Regardless, very surprised to see Frank with team past FA.
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Post#2115 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:08 pm

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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#2117 » by Richard4444 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:49 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.

If Frank doesn't play again this season, why would his value be higher in the summer?


Because picks tend to loose their value after their position is known. It is very risky to trade a pick because the team could enter in loose strike (due to injuries for example) and that pick could gain unexpected value.

But after the regular season and the lottery, the true picks value became known. It is easier to trade it.
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Post#2118 » by MaseInYourFace » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:09 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
taj2133 wrote:Ever thought that maybe frank asked to get traded by knick management, it probably happened behind close doors and perry told frank we will try find you team to play on. The clues are there with this injury taking along time to heal up, we heard frank saying he is going to ramp his works during the all star break and nothing is happening. I personally think frank should shut it down if he is not playing by next week.


Good if true. Send him to DAL. I can finally see the Doncic KP Frank duo I was hoping for.


Don’t think Frank would request a trade. Groin injuries can be funky. Look how long it knocked out Lebron who is a physical freak.
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Post#2119 » by King of Canada » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:14 pm

Here's a question - if Frank's contract was up today, what would you pay him to come back? What do you think he'd get on the open market?
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Post#2120 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:26 pm

GONYK wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
GONYK wrote:So then why didn't they trade him? I'm fact, they rejected offers for him at the deadline.

His value his low at the moment injured and they probably think they could get better deal at the draft, especially with playoff team such as the spurs,jazz, blazers, and okc can give a first pick at that time.

If Frank doesn't play again this season, why would his value be higher in the summer?


Because taj has been saying they are gonna trade him since LAST YEAR!! :lol: He's been beating this drum since before last year's trade deadline. He's a broken record.
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