2023 draft thread

[SARGO127]

I think we spend more time worrying about the state of the Knicks than Rose and crew do

[thebuzzardman]

So did the Knicks sign any UFAs? Are they really going use the Keels excuse as 'draft assets'? Maybe they should say the same about the Euro they drafted a couple seasons ago that will never play for the Knicks, too.

They built and developed arguably the best team in two decades but this FO and coach leave so much to be desired.

They got Obi's sh*tty brother and some kid Charlie Ward was grooming.

[rajajackal]

i'm actually surprised jacob toppin went undrafted after he made a little noise at one point this year but what i'll say is that now no matter which way things go with obi it 's 10x more hilarious and food for the fanbase's lore

[thebuzzardman]

So did the Knicks sign any UFAs? Are they really going use the Keels excuse as 'draft assets'? Maybe they should say the same about the Euro they drafted a couple seasons ago that will never play for the Knicks, too.

They built and developed arguably the best team in two decades but this FO and coach leave so much to be desired.

This FO is actually.... Ok?

Mediocre?

Which is a giant step for the Knicks, but of course they haven't maximized the situation.
Even in the context that no FO hits on every move.

I support all the accentuating the negative that is happening though.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm still mad the Knicks wasted a draft pick on "Got Milk" Hart

[EricAnderson]

That’s like a NFL team saying give me a 6th round pick instead of a first because there have been a lot of QB
busts taken in the first round and Brady was picked in the 6th round

Better to have drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round of the NFL draft than Drew Blesdod at the top of the First round. First round picks are quite often products of a hype machine.

Winning over the long term depends on superior scouting, superior post-draft skill building, and superior management processes.

Knicks have acquired many, many second draft top lottery types and not one of them has stuck. Mistakes are made every single year.

Yeah but the odds of getting a Brady or anyone good in the 6th round is still astronomical.

As many busts are there are in the first round you still have a much better chance hitting there then later in the draft

In the NBA yeah you can get a huge outlier like Jokic or Giannis but they are huge exceptions.

There was some stat that after like the 10th pick or something in the NBA draft only a small percentage of players even get to their second contract never mind become a Jokic level player.

So the idea that late firsts or second round picks you have just as good a chance to get a star or even good player as you do high on the draft is complete nonsense

[stuporman]

So did the Knicks sign any UFAs? Are they really going use the Keels excuse as 'draft assets'? Maybe they should say the same about the Euro they drafted a couple seasons ago that will never play for the Knicks, too.

They built and developed arguably the best team in two decades but this FO and coach leave so much to be desired.

They got Obi's sh*tty brother and some kid Charlie Ward was grooming.

[stuporman]

So did the Knicks sign any UFAs? Are they really going use the Keels excuse as 'draft assets'? Maybe they should say the same about the Euro they drafted a couple seasons ago that will never play for the Knicks, too.

They built and developed arguably the best team in two decades but this FO and coach leave so much to be desired.

This FO is actually.... Ok?

Mediocre?

Which is a giant step for the Knicks, but of course they haven't maximized the situation.
Even in the context that no FO hits on every move.

I support all the accentuating the negative that is happening though.

They have been a mixed bag with some great moves, some meh moves and some horrible moves so there's enough examples for any narrative someone wants to paint.

[thebuzzardman]

So did the Knicks sign any UFAs? Are they really going use the Keels excuse as 'draft assets'? Maybe they should say the same about the Euro they drafted a couple seasons ago that will never play for the Knicks, too.

They built and developed arguably the best team in two decades but this FO and coach leave so much to be desired.

This FO is actually.... Ok?

Mediocre?

Which is a giant step for the Knicks, but of course they haven't maximized the situation.
Even in the context that no FO hits on every move.

I support all the accentuating the negative that is happening though.

They have been a mixed bag with some great moves, some meh moves and some horrible moves so there's enough examples for any narrative someone wants to paint.

Which is awesome, because it leads to lots of arguing and posturing.

[Besart19]

Hart could have had with the full Mid level exception this summer and we would had our own draft pick yesterday!

With Obi junior looks like Toppin Dinasty will outalast Tommy Tippi

[Besart19]

we lost 4 picks in a year... Reddish, Hart and the Mavs pick

[stuporman]

This FO is actually.... Ok?

Mediocre?

Which is a giant step for the Knicks, but of course they haven't maximized the situation.
Even in the context that no FO hits on every move.

I support all the accentuating the negative that is happening though.

They have been a mixed bag with some great moves, some meh moves and some horrible moves so there's enough examples for any narrative someone wants to paint.

Which is awesome, because it leads to lots of arguing and posturing.

Watch on YouTube

[bballoctober]

we lost 4 picks in a year... Reddish, Hart and the Mavs pick

Who’s the fourth ?

[Besart19]

we lost 4 picks in a year... Reddish, Hart and the Mavs pick

Who’s the fourth ?

Knox

[KnicksGadfly]

That’s like a NFL team saying give me a 6th round pick instead of a first because there have been a lot of QB
busts taken in the first round and Brady was picked in the 6th round

Better to have drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round of the NFL draft than Drew Blesdod at the top of the First round. First round picks are quite often products of a hype machine.

Winning over the long term depends on superior scouting, superior post-draft skill building, and superior management processes.

Knicks have acquired many, many second draft top lottery types and not one of them has stuck. Mistakes are made every single year.

Yeah but the odds of getting a Brady or anyone good in the 6th round is still astronomical.

As many busts are there are in the first round you still have a much better chance hitting there then later in the draft

In the NBA yeah you can get a huge outlier like Jokic or Giannis but they are huge exceptions.

There was some stat that after like the 10th pick or something in the NBA draft only a small percentage of players even get to their second contract never mind become a Jokic level player.

So the idea that late firsts or second round picks you have just as good a chance to get a star or even good player as you do high on the draft is complete nonsense

Sure, but even hitting on a good role player in the later rounds is extremely helpful for a team. Mitchell Robinson is a steal. IQ is a steal. Quentin Grimes was bandied about as a headliner for a Donovan Mitchell deal. It’s good to have those types.

[EricAnderson]

Better to have drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round of the NFL draft than Drew Blesdod at the top of the First round. First round picks are quite often products of a hype machine.

Winning over the long term depends on superior scouting, superior post-draft skill building, and superior management processes.

Knicks have acquired many, many second draft top lottery types and not one of them has stuck. Mistakes are made every single year.

Yeah but the odds of getting a Brady or anyone good in the 6th round is still astronomical.

As many busts are there are in the first round you still have a much better chance hitting there then later in the draft

In the NBA yeah you can get a huge outlier like Jokic or Giannis but they are huge exceptions.

There was some stat that after like the 10th pick or something in the NBA draft only a small percentage of players even get to their second contract never mind become a Jokic level player.

So the idea that late firsts or second round picks you have just as good a chance to get a star or even good player as you do high on the draft is complete nonsense

Sure, but even hitting on a good role player in the later rounds is extremely helpful for a team. Mitchell Robinson is a steal. IQ is a steal. Quentin Grimes was bandied about as a headliner for a Donovan Mitchell deal. It’s good to have those types.

They’re fine but they don’t move the needle.

There are like maybe 4 or 5 guys in the league who actually move the needle and that can be the best player on a title team

[sol537]

Most of the picks after the 10th pick don't last in the NBA... the majority of them fizzle out. Let that sink in.

And Hart is not just a mere bench player. He's a +/- monster when healthy and motivated. He was arguably a top 3 player for us after he was traded here. Many of you have a biased view on him after he struggled against the Heat. He was a HUGE reason we ended up in 5th place and a major part in helping us spank Cleveland in 5. Ya'll are missing the big picture.

[WargamesX]

Most of the picks after the 10th pick don't last in the NBA... the majority of them fizzle out. Let that sink in.

And Hart is not just a mere bench player. He's a +/- monster when healthy and motivated. He was arguably a top 3 player for us after he was traded here. Many of you have a biased view on him after he struggled against the Heat. He was a HUGE reason we ended up in 5th place and a major part in helping us spank Cleveland in 5. Ya'll are missing the big picture.

Not so much a big picture more an opinionated one. He was both good and bad while he was here.

You can’t outright say he or damn near any aspect of this team outside of Brunson is a fully positive thing.

[thebuzzardman]

Most of the picks after the 10th pick don't last in the NBA... the majority of them fizzle out. Let that sink in.

And Hart is not just a mere bench player. He's a +/- monster when healthy and motivated. He was arguably a top 3 player for us after he was traded here. Many of you have a biased view on him after he struggled against the Heat. He was a HUGE reason we ended up in 5th place and a major part in helping us spank Cleveland in 5. Ya'll are missing the big picture.

Wasted a pick when not in championship contention.

It's worse than the Bargiani trade.

[BKlutch]

105 pages on a draft we don’t even have a pick in. Jesus.

We bored!