Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

[stuporman]

Oh MO!

[Iron Mantis]

Knicks first preseason game is officially less than 3 weeks away.

[Jalen Bluntson]

please stop having thoughts. all of you. all at once. thank you.

GOAT POST! Shut down RealGM and everyone move on with your lives. It's over. Good bye.

[3toheadmelo]

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[Signature NYK]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT and Kessler
UTAH gets Dadiet Detroit 1st and Wash 1st
MIN gets Jabari Smth Jr Dillion Brooks Grant Williams and KBD
Hornets get Deuce and Mitch
Rockets get Randle and Nick Richards

Why for the Timberwolves:
Timberwolves won't want to break up the core they have but with this move they save themselves from Repeat tax offender hell, and add solid depth and a promising young PF on the rise in Jabari who can grow with Ant and Jaden Daniels.
Even if KAT wants NY Its doubtful they will value Randle enough to trade KAT for him straight up. With this their play style doesn't have to change too much and if they can transition Jabari to play the 5 to spell Gobert they can be really dangerous for a few years:

C: Gobert/Reid
PF: Jabari/Reid
SF: McDaniels/Grant Williams
SG: Antman/Brooks
PG: Conley/Dillingham

Eventually, they will have to figure out how to upgrade at PG as Conley is getting up there and will be washed shortly.

Why for the Jazz
Two heavily protected first round picks and a late first round prospect they seemingly were linked too in the scouting process for Kessler. All the reports say he wont be on the team long and his value will continue to go down if he's not featured.

Dont care enough about the Jazz roster construction to do a lineup lol

Why for the Hornets:
Hornets get the perfect backcourt mate for Lamelo in Deuce McBride as he can guard opposing guards, hit an outside shot and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. And they get another elite Lob threat and rim protector in Mitch. Young and fun team would be much watch TV lowkey

C: Williams/Mitch
PF: Bridges
SF: Miller
SG: Deuce
PG: Lamelo

Why for the Rockets:
This one is a little trickier I won't lie to you.. I value Jabari pretty highly so I'm not sure why they have had these rumors about trading him for Randle but we've heard it a lot. The pairing of Randle and Sengun is weird but two elite offensive guys in the Frontcourt could be interesting. Also, add a cheap young quality backup center in Nick Richards. If the team is looking to make a playoff push Randle can be relied upon night in night out to produce and get them there.

C: Sengun/Richards
PF: Randle/Eason
SF: Thompson/Eason
SG: Green/Sheppard
PG: FVV/Sheppard

Why for the Knicks
Leon gets his MAX KAT in NY. CAA Mafia and all the things.
Jokes aside the fit is there. Adding Kat and Kessler allow for Offense/Defense lineups and versatility with Size that we currently dont have. We'd be losing some offensive creation but the additional 3 point spacing should fair well in the new nba playstyle. This also allows everyone to play even more minutes in their natural role.

KAT has worked with Thibs in the past and he is kinda a bih.. but I thought KP was a Bih and he won Boston a chip because during crunch times of games every single person on the court was the threat to score. We'd be able to replicate that with KAT at the 5. His defense on Jokic in the playoffs this year was commendable and as much as I like Randle Idk if I can trust him to be a positive impact in a playoff setting (albeit his former showings were impacted by roster construction and injury)

We do lose some point of attack defense by losing Deuce but will have a 7-footer manning the rim for near 48 min a night and reasonably less injury concern for the 5 spot.

Rotations and Minutes Distribution:

Regular Season 9-Man Rotation (& 14 man roster)
C: Kessler (26)/Precious (12) /KAT (10) / Sims
PF: KAT (24) / OG (16) Precious (8) / Mook
SF: OG (16) /Hart (24) Bridges (8) / Mcullar Jr
SG: Bridges (25) /Donte (23) / Shamet
PG: Brunson (35) / Payne (13) / Kolek

Playoff Rotation:

Closing and Crunchtime Lineup:

Shooting:
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Defense:
C: Kessler
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Hart
PG: Brunson

Twin Towers Lineup:
C: Kessler
PF: KAT
SF: OG
SG: Mikal
PG: Brunson

Standard Closing Lineup I would expect to see most nights.
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Team can compete for a few years and honestly, I see KAT being willing to take a discount to keep the team together as he is CAA fr,

Oh and somehow the salaries all work lmao

[G_K_F]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT and Kessler
UTAH gets Dadiet Detroit 1st and Wash 1st
MIN gets Jabari Smth Jr Dillion Brooks Grant Williams and KBD
Hornets get Deuce and Mitch
Rockets get Randle and Nick Richards

Why for the Timberwolves:
Timberwolves won't want to break up the core they have but with this move they save themselves from Repeat tax offender hell, and add solid depth and a promising young PF on the rise in Jabari who can grow with Ant and Jaden Daniels.
Even if KAT wants NY Its doubtful they will value Randle enough to trade KAT for him straight up. With this their play style doesn't have to change too much and if they can transition Jabari to play the 5 to spell Gobert they can be really dangerous for a few years:

C: Gobert/Reid
PF: Jabari/Reid
SF: McDaniels/Grant Williams
SG: Antman/Brooks
PG: Conley/Dillingham

Eventually, they will have to figure out how to upgrade at PG as Conley is getting up there and will be washed shortly.

Why for the Jazz
Two heavily protected first round picks and a late first round prospect they seemingly were linked too in the scouting process for Kessler. All the reports say he wont be on the team long and his value will continue to go down if he's not featured.

Dont care enough about the Jazz roster construction to do a lineup lol

Why for the Hornets:
Hornets get the perfect backcourt mate for Lamelo in Deuce McBride as he can guard opposing guards, hit an outside shot and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. And they get another elite Lob threat and rim protector in Mitch. Young and fun team would be much watch TV lowkey

C: Williams/Mitch
PF: Bridges
SF: Miller
SG: Deuce
PG: Lamelo

Why for the Rockets:
This one is a little trickier I won't lie to you.. I value Jabari pretty highly so I'm not sure why they have had these rumors about trading him for Randle but we've heard it a lot. The pairing of Randle and Sengun is weird but two elite offensive guys in the Frontcourt could be interesting. Also, add a cheap young quality backup center in Nick Richards. If the team is looking to make a playoff push Randle can be relied upon night in night out to produce and get them there.

C: Sengun/Richards
PF: Randle/Eason
SF: Thompson/Eason
SG: Green/Sheppard
PG: FVV/Sheppard

Why for the Knicks
Leon gets his MAX KAT in NY. CAA Mafia and all the things.
Jokes aside the fit is there. Adding Kat and Kessler allow for Offense/Defense lineups and versatility with Size that we currently dont have. We'd be losing some offensive creation but the additional 3 point spacing should fair well in the new nba playstyle. This also allows everyone to play even more minutes in their natural role.

KAT has worked with Thibs in the past and he is kinda a bih.. but I thought KP was a Bih and he won Boston a chip because during crunch times of games every single person on the court was the threat to score. We'd be able to replicate that with KAT at the 5. His defense on Jokic in the playoffs this year was commendable and as much as I like Randle Idk if I can trust him to be a positive impact in a playoff setting (albeit his former showings were impacted by roster construction and injury)

We do lose some point of attack defense by losing Deuce but will have a 7-footer manning the rim for near 48 min a night and reasonably less injury concern for the 5 spot.

Rotations and Minutes Distribution:

Regular Season 9-Man Rotation (& 14 man roster)
C: Kessler (26)/Precious (12) /KAT (10) / Sims
PF: KAT (24) / OG (16) Precious (8) / Mook
SF: OG (16) /Hart (24) Bridges (8) / Mcullar Jr
SG: Bridges (25) /Donte (23) / Shamet
PG: Brunson (35) / Payne (13) / Kolek

Playoff Rotation:

Closing and Crunchtime Lineup:

Shooting:
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Defense:
C: Kessler
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Hart
PG: Brunson

Twin Towers Lineup:
C: Kessler
PF: KAT
SF: OG
SG: Mikal
PG: Brunson

Standard Closing Lineup I would expect to see most nights.
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Team can compete for a few years and honestly, I see KAT being willing to take a discount to keep the team together as he is CAA fr,

Oh and somehow the salaries all work lmao

No

[knicks1999]

Nice to see the Knicks going for veterans for end of the bench as oppose to young fringe players that will never see the court…obvious shift in their approach…the front office knows we have a formidable team now

[HarthorneWingo]

I think that we’ll end up with either Richards or Kessler.

[Iron Mantis]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT

Saw this and instantly approved. Didn't even read the rest.

[Kampuchea]

Usually trades have 10 teams involved, the other teams hang up the phone when they hear it’s only 5.

[F N 11]

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He’s so smart for knowing what to work on to help the team.

[Wildcat]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT and Kessler
UTAH gets Dadiet Detroit 1st and Wash 1st
MIN gets Jabari Smth Jr Dillion Brooks Grant Williams and KBD
Hornets get Deuce and Mitch
Rockets get Randle and Nick Richards

Why for the Timberwolves:
Timberwolves won't want to break up the core they have but with this move they save themselves from Repeat tax offender hell, and add solid depth and a promising young PF on the rise in Jabari who can grow with Ant and Jaden Daniels.
Even if KAT wants NY Its doubtful they will value Randle enough to trade KAT for him straight up. With this their play style doesn't have to change too much and if they can transition Jabari to play the 5 to spell Gobert they can be really dangerous for a few years:

No and this whole scenario is awful. Imma just gonna stop you there with the T-Wolves angle, though. Because of their own record breaking revenue, they can afford to keep the core together for another season or 2 while still maintaining a profit. There's no reasonable incentive to break their team up. And with the cap rising and their salary decreasing in the next 2 seasons, it becomes absolutely moot.

[NoLayupRule]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT and Kessler
UTAH gets Dadiet Detroit 1st and Wash 1st
MIN gets Jabari Smth Jr Dillion Brooks Grant Williams and KBD
Hornets get Deuce and Mitch
Rockets get Randle and Nick Richards

Why for the Timberwolves:
Timberwolves won't want to break up the core they have but with this move they save themselves from Repeat tax offender hell, and add solid depth and a promising young PF on the rise in Jabari who can grow with Ant and Jaden Daniels.
Even if KAT wants NY Its doubtful they will value Randle enough to trade KAT for him straight up. With this their play style doesn't have to change too much and if they can transition Jabari to play the 5 to spell Gobert they can be really dangerous for a few years:

C: Gobert/Reid
PF: Jabari/Reid
SF: McDaniels/Grant Williams
SG: Antman/Brooks
PG: Conley/Dillingham

Eventually, they will have to figure out how to upgrade at PG as Conley is getting up there and will be washed shortly.

Why for the Jazz
Two heavily protected first round picks and a late first round prospect they seemingly were linked too in the scouting process for Kessler. All the reports say he wont be on the team long and his value will continue to go down if he's not featured.

Dont care enough about the Jazz roster construction to do a lineup lol

Why for the Hornets:
Hornets get the perfect backcourt mate for Lamelo in Deuce McBride as he can guard opposing guards, hit an outside shot and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. And they get another elite Lob threat and rim protector in Mitch. Young and fun team would be much watch TV lowkey

C: Williams/Mitch
PF: Bridges
SF: Miller
SG: Deuce
PG: Lamelo

Why for the Rockets:
This one is a little trickier I won't lie to you.. I value Jabari pretty highly so I'm not sure why they have had these rumors about trading him for Randle but we've heard it a lot. The pairing of Randle and Sengun is weird but two elite offensive guys in the Frontcourt could be interesting. Also, add a cheap young quality backup center in Nick Richards. If the team is looking to make a playoff push Randle can be relied upon night in night out to produce and get them there.

C: Sengun/Richards
PF: Randle/Eason
SF: Thompson/Eason
SG: Green/Sheppard
PG: FVV/Sheppard

Why for the Knicks
Leon gets his MAX KAT in NY. CAA Mafia and all the things.
Jokes aside the fit is there. Adding Kat and Kessler allow for Offense/Defense lineups and versatility with Size that we currently dont have. We'd be losing some offensive creation but the additional 3 point spacing should fair well in the new nba playstyle. This also allows everyone to play even more minutes in their natural role.

KAT has worked with Thibs in the past and he is kinda a bih.. but I thought KP was a Bih and he won Boston a chip because during crunch times of games every single person on the court was the threat to score. We'd be able to replicate that with KAT at the 5. His defense on Jokic in the playoffs this year was commendable and as much as I like Randle Idk if I can trust him to be a positive impact in a playoff setting (albeit his former showings were impacted by roster construction and injury)

We do lose some point of attack defense by losing Deuce but will have a 7-footer manning the rim for near 48 min a night and reasonably less injury concern for the 5 spot.

Rotations and Minutes Distribution:

Regular Season 9-Man Rotation (& 14 man roster)
C: Kessler (26)/Precious (12) /KAT (10) / Sims
PF: KAT (24) / OG (16) Precious (8) / Mook
SF: OG (16) /Hart (24) Bridges (8) / Mcullar Jr
SG: Bridges (25) /Donte (23) / Shamet
PG: Brunson (35) / Payne (13) / Kolek

Playoff Rotation:

Closing and Crunchtime Lineup:

Shooting:
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Defense:
C: Kessler
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Hart
PG: Brunson

Twin Towers Lineup:
C: Kessler
PF: KAT
SF: OG
SG: Mikal
PG: Brunson

Standard Closing Lineup I would expect to see most nights.
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Team can compete for a few years and honestly, I see KAT being willing to take a discount to keep the team together as he is CAA fr,

Oh and somehow the salaries all work lmao

at the first apron arent we disallowed to trade players to multiple teams? We need equal salary back, i know, but there is something about packaging as well

regardless I think Min is over the apron so they wouldnt be able to do this. If I understand correctly

They aren’t just limited to the 100% salary matching in trades, but second apron teams will also be prohibited from combining multiple players’ salaries into trades as well.

[Enzo954]

We should just forget about Kessler as long as Ainge is in charge over there in Utah. Time to move on from that fantasy IMO.

[sol537]

Get KAT out of your mouths. Damn.

We're gonna ride this roster out and wait to pounce on one of these guys when/if they become available (w/ Deuce being the main outgoing piece, potentially):

Zubac, Richards, Kessler, Timelord (if healthy), Goga, Wendell Carter Jr., Valanciunas

[Iron Mantis]

Is KAT a Knick yet?

[Wildcat]

Is KAT a Knick yet?

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[KnixinSix]

The Ultimate 5 Team Trade:

NYK gets KAT and Kessler
UTAH gets Dadiet Detroit 1st and Wash 1st
MIN gets Jabari Smth Jr Dillion Brooks Grant Williams and KBD
Hornets get Deuce and Mitch
Rockets get Randle and Nick Richards

Why for the Timberwolves:
Timberwolves won't want to break up the core they have but with this move they save themselves from Repeat tax offender hell, and add solid depth and a promising young PF on the rise in Jabari who can grow with Ant and Jaden Daniels.
Even if KAT wants NY Its doubtful they will value Randle enough to trade KAT for him straight up. With this their play style doesn't have to change too much and if they can transition Jabari to play the 5 to spell Gobert they can be really dangerous for a few years:

C: Gobert/Reid
PF: Jabari/Reid
SF: McDaniels/Grant Williams
SG: Antman/Brooks
PG: Conley/Dillingham

Eventually, they will have to figure out how to upgrade at PG as Conley is getting up there and will be washed shortly.

Why for the Jazz
Two heavily protected first round picks and a late first round prospect they seemingly were linked too in the scouting process for Kessler. All the reports say he wont be on the team long and his value will continue to go down if he's not featured.

Dont care enough about the Jazz roster construction to do a lineup lol

Why for the Hornets:
Hornets get the perfect backcourt mate for Lamelo in Deuce McBride as he can guard opposing guards, hit an outside shot and doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. And they get another elite Lob threat and rim protector in Mitch. Young and fun team would be much watch TV lowkey

C: Williams/Mitch
PF: Bridges
SF: Miller
SG: Deuce
PG: Lamelo

Why for the Rockets:
This one is a little trickier I won't lie to you.. I value Jabari pretty highly so I'm not sure why they have had these rumors about trading him for Randle but we've heard it a lot. The pairing of Randle and Sengun is weird but two elite offensive guys in the Frontcourt could be interesting. Also, add a cheap young quality backup center in Nick Richards. If the team is looking to make a playoff push Randle can be relied upon night in night out to produce and get them there.

C: Sengun/Richards
PF: Randle/Eason
SF: Thompson/Eason
SG: Green/Sheppard
PG: FVV/Sheppard

Why for the Knicks
Leon gets his MAX KAT in NY. CAA Mafia and all the things.
Jokes aside the fit is there. Adding Kat and Kessler allow for Offense/Defense lineups and versatility with Size that we currently dont have. We'd be losing some offensive creation but the additional 3 point spacing should fair well in the new nba playstyle. This also allows everyone to play even more minutes in their natural role.

KAT has worked with Thibs in the past and he is kinda a bih.. but I thought KP was a Bih and he won Boston a chip because during crunch times of games every single person on the court was the threat to score. We'd be able to replicate that with KAT at the 5. His defense on Jokic in the playoffs this year was commendable and as much as I like Randle Idk if I can trust him to be a positive impact in a playoff setting (albeit his former showings were impacted by roster construction and injury)

We do lose some point of attack defense by losing Deuce but will have a 7-footer manning the rim for near 48 min a night and reasonably less injury concern for the 5 spot.

Rotations and Minutes Distribution:

Regular Season 9-Man Rotation (& 14 man roster)
C: Kessler (26)/Precious (12) /KAT (10) / Sims
PF: KAT (24) / OG (16) Precious (8) / Mook
SF: OG (16) /Hart (24) Bridges (8) / Mcullar Jr
SG: Bridges (25) /Donte (23) / Shamet
PG: Brunson (35) / Payne (13) / Kolek

Playoff Rotation:

Closing and Crunchtime Lineup:

Shooting:
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Defense:
C: Kessler
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Hart
PG: Brunson

Twin Towers Lineup:
C: Kessler
PF: KAT
SF: OG
SG: Mikal
PG: Brunson

Standard Closing Lineup I would expect to see most nights.
C: KAT
PF: OG
SF: Mikal
SG: Donte
PG: Brunson

Team can compete for a few years and honestly, I see KAT being willing to take a discount to keep the team together as he is CAA fr,

Oh and somehow the salaries all work lmao

Signature effort on this one bro

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My man, Thibs. I'm ready for a Randle/OG/Bridges/DD/JB death lineup.