Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC

[ComboGuardCity]

If you can generalize all fans, then why can't others? I don't agree with everything said on this board, but to come in blatantly trolling is ridiculous/pathetic.

heres the problem i see:

every city has crazy people in it. some of those crazy people follow sports. the larger the city the more crazy people in it, thats just pure math. there is nothing wrong with milwaukee or new york, or the large base of fans that follow either team. however, ny is quite large and because of the pure population theres going to be lots of crazy homers. same reason the raptors board has so many, and the lakers one.

anyway i guess the point is that us posters from a smaller community (our smaller city, smaller fan base and smaller realgm board) just see more crazy knick fans than any other fan base. theres some crazy bucks posters but only enough to count on 1 hand.


sometimes i grow tired of seeing the gallo for mvp type posts, just like i did with the frye is the next jesus posts, and of course the crazy curry and crawford posts before that.

theres a lot of well educated good fans that post on the knick board, but as with anything anywhere its the bad that people remember, and because of the size of your fanbase and thus message board you have lots of crazy, irrational and huge homers, far more than any of us small market teams could produce! so yes you see some crazy homers but we see far more!

That sounds a lot different than:

knick fans are easily the worst in any sport, this board is accurately reflective of their fanbase. the mods over there are no different

Which stance are you taking?

[K_ick_God]

Are you sure your actually meaning to talk to me? The things you are saying don't seem to be matching up with the things you are quoting, are you meaning someone else?

Do you still feel Jennings "tore up" Felton per the game comparisons I provided?

[clownparade]

Which stance are you taking?

both stances are the same, in the long post i explained why the shorter post is true. its bad to generalize but thats what happens when like i said all people remember is the bad

[TrueWarrior]

If you can generalize all fans, then why can't others? I don't agree with everything said on this board, but to come in blatantly trolling is ridiculous/pathetic.

heres the problem i see:

every city has crazy people in it. some of those crazy people follow sports. the larger the city the more crazy people in it, thats just pure math. there is nothing wrong with milwaukee or new york, or the large base of fans that follow either team. however, ny is quite large and because of the pure population theres going to be lots of crazy homers. same reason the raptors board has so many, and the lakers one.

anyway i guess the point is that us posters from a smaller community (our smaller city, smaller fan base and smaller realgm board) just see more crazy knick fans than any other fan base. theres some crazy bucks posters but only enough to count on 1 hand.

sometimes i grow tired of seeing the gallo for mvp type posts, just like i did with the frye is the next jesus posts, and of course the crazy curry and crawford posts before that.

theres a lot of well educated good fans that post on the knick board, but as with anything anywhere its the bad that people remember, and because of the size of your fanbase and thus message board you have lots of crazy, irrational and huge homers, far more than any of us small market teams could produce! so yes you see some crazy homers but we see far more!

Honestly we are here to talk amongst ourselves and we dont really care what Bucks fans think of all people. Ive seen this Paul character pop up in our threads once in a while and point out something stupid and then leave, clearly showing an agenda. Then he pops up again when we mention Jennings. Ive never been on the Bucks board in my life so why are you guys here? Talk about us all you want I can really give two sh*ts. Just because we dont think Jennings is the second coming doesnt mean we dont think hes a good player. You overrate him just like we overrate Felton. Right now they are on the same level as far as Im concerned, Jennings is just younger but seems to have a few screws loose while Felton doesnt. You said there are more "homer" Knick fans because there are more Knick fans in general, well Im happy you can do math then. Be proud. Why does it bother you though? Most of us are quick to tell the people you mention like it is, and you know that but you want to judge us all because of a few bad apples.

These kind of exchanges are stupid. Just go back to your board and giggle like little babies if it makes you feel better. All I know is this year my Knicks arent going to go down as easy. I think we'll finish with a better record than you. If thats being a homer then so be it.

[OooSplendiforous]

Oh my god. Are you guys serious? 15 pages on this ish? Really? Really?!

Whether you like Jennings or not he would've been a better pick than Jordan Hill and thats UNDISPUTABLE. Whether he fit here or not it wouldn't have mattered, fact is he had more value than Jordan Hill so if we traded him we would've gotten a better return.

Jennings is a better fit than Hill.

Deal with it. End thread. Move on guys. Whether you like him or not its impossible to deny whos a better player.

[clownparade]

These kind of exchanges are stupid. Just go back to your board and giggle like little babies if it makes you feel better. All I know is this year my Knicks arent going to go down as easy. I think we'll finish with a better record than you. If thats being a homer then so be it.

because having discussions with people who are fans from other teams is fun? because if you find the non homer lunatics you can have a real discussion. its fine to think you will have a good team or finish ahead of another team but once in a while some people need to watch the other team not just their own and the lakers.

[paul]

I didn't do either of those things and am more than happy to revisit that thread if you wish. I was just trying to let sleeping dogs lie rather than continuing an argument that was going nowhere, if I had kept posting in that thread it would be still going now and it wouldn't have gotten anywhere, though the personal insults I was getting for saying Felton is 'average' were fun, can't wait to get back to that.

You actually did do both of those things. Look at thread again.

You really want to go back to that thread? I didn't do either of those things and I'll thank you not to call me a liar. OK then here it is, sorry for those like me who didn't want to go there.

In that thread I DIRECTLY responded to a quote about Felton that said "He burned every team I saw him play against" by saying that he must not have seen Felton play many teams because Jennings tore him up, then listed their averages against each other for the season. That was then refuted by a mod who used stats to come to the somewhat questionable conclusion that Jennings and Felton broke even the 4 games, 2 games in. So here's my question, WHERE DID I SAY THAT JENNINGS TORE HIM UP EVERY TIME THEY PLAYED? I cannot actually believe I have to explain this.

Again, and for clarity, I responded to a quote that said that Felton "burned every team I saw him play" by saying that Jennings 'tore his ass up', which he absolutely did on at LEAST two occasions. Never, at any point, and I mean never, did I say that Felton didn't break even with Jennings in any game, I simply said that Jennings beat him convincingly when they played (i.e. on at least one occasion when they played), which he did. I didn't go back into that thread and explain that because honestly I thought it was too ridiculous to even have to consider explaining it.

Not for nothing, but I was personally abused in that thread for taking the stance that Felton was 'average', hence the 'crazy' remarks on the Bucks board and my frustration at the lack of action against at least one poster.

As to the 'calling the whole board homers' thing, I assume you're talking about me mentioning the thread ripping Noah recently and talking up Duhon in a big way two years ago. It's up to you how you take that, but if we dig up those threads you're going to find that the overwhelming majority of that Noah thread (pretty sure you posted in it from memory) was incredibly negative, while Amar'e and Mosgov get talked up like crazy, while those 'Duhon is a perfect fit who will break out' threads will be harder to track down, but we both know they exist. There was also some significant overrating of Felton happening in that thread that just DID NOT happen when he was a Bobcat, nor would it if he'd gone somewhere else. I was referring to specific cases of this board, when considering majority of opinion, vastly overrating their guys and underrating opponents. You don't need me to tell you that happens. I didn't belittle or ridicule, I pointed out specific events that DID take place. Like I said, take it how you see fit.

Really didn't want to go back through that again, but I hope that clears things up.

Do you still feel Jennings "tore up" Felton per the game comparisons I provided?

See above, I can't really believe I had to explain that to you.

[towelie]

Oh my god. Are you guys serious? 15 pages on this ish? Really? Really?!

Whether you like Jennings or not he would've been a better pick than Jordan Hill and thats UNDISPUTABLE. Whether he fit here or not it wouldn't have mattered, fact is he had more value than Jordan Hill so if we traded him we would've gotten a better return.

Jennings is a better fit than Hill.

Deal with it. End thread. Move on guys. Whether you like him or not its impossible to deny whos a better player.

This, and I usually don't agree with Splendiforous cause he tends to fall in love with and overly defend any low-character NBA talent like Lance Stephenson or Nate Robinson or even Brandon Jennings.

But let's be real. We made a huge blunder on 2009 draft night with Jordan Hill. I'm not even sure I would pick Jennings if we had a redo (I prefer Collison and Lawson's pure PG play over him), but seriously, Jennings > Hill now and in the future. Even if we traded Jennings to Houston, his value would've likely been higher then, and we could probably keep one of our two 1st round picks. And that alone would've made him worth more than Hill.

[Striders]

You really want to go back to that thread? I didn't do either of those things

No, you pretty much did.

[ComboGuardCity]

These kind of exchanges are stupid. Just go back to your board and giggle like little babies if it makes you feel better. All I know is this year my Knicks arent going to go down as easy. I think we'll finish with a better record than you. If thats being a homer then so be it.

because having discussions with people who are fans from other teams is fun? because if you find the non homer lunatics you can have a real discussion. its fine to think you will have a good team or finish ahead of another team but once in a while some people need to watch the other team not just their own and the lakers.

I actually watched the Bucks last season and noticed Jennings hitting that Rookie wall/losing Bogut. However, I'm in the minority on this board when I think Jennings has superstar potential. He showed great leadership in the post season, but seems to lose focus at times (when his shot isn't falling). That kind of play can be discouraging to see and can be a flag. In addition, I think this year will be the true test of Jennings leadership because the Bucks added yet another scorer. I believe Jennings is a scoring guard who has distributing potential. However, scoring is his forte and getting the ball to Salmons, Magette, and for the sake of the team, Bogut will be difficult to do while getting his own. Jennings is a nice player that needs alot of things to go right in order him to grow. Can he become a superstar? Possibly. Are there a lot of hoops and obstacles for him to go through to get there? Most definitely.

[towelie]

You really want to go back to that thread? I didn't do either of those things and I'll thank you not to call me a liar. OK then here it is, sorry for those like me who didn't want to go there.

In that thread I DIRECTLY responded to a quote about Felton that said "He burned every team I saw him play against" by saying that he must not have seen Felton play many teams because Jennings tore him up, then listed their averages against each other for the season. That was then refuted by a mod who used stats to come to the somewhat questionable conclusion that Jennings and Felton broke even the 4 games, 2 games in. So here's my question, WHERE DID I SAY THAT JENNINGS TORE HIM UP EVERY TIME THEY PLAYED? I cannot actually believe I have to explain this.

Again, and for clarity, I responded to a quote that said that Felton "burned every team I saw him play" by saying that Jennings 'tore his ass up', which he absolutely did on at LEAST two occasions. Never, at any point, and I mean never, did I say that Felton didn't break even with Jennings in any game, I simply said that Jennings beat him convincingly when they played (i.e. on at least one occasion when they played), which he did. I didn't go back into that thread and explain that because honestly I thought it was too ridiculous to even have to consider explaining it.

Not for nothing, but I was personally abused in that thread for taking the stance that Felton was 'average', hence the 'crazy' remarks on the Bucks board and my frustration at the lack of action against at least one poster.

As to the 'calling the whole board homers' thing, I assume you're talking about me mentioning the thread ripping Noah recently and talking up Duhon in a big way two years ago. It's up to you how you take that, but if we dig up those threads you're going to find that the overwhelming majority of that Noah thread (pretty sure you posted in it from memory) was incredibly negative, while Amar'e and Mosgov get talked up like crazy, while those 'Duhon is a perfect fit who will break out' threads will be harder to track down, but we both know they exist. There was also some significant overrating of Felton happening in that thread that just DID NOT happen when he was a Bobcat, nor would it if he'd gone somewhere else. I was referring to specific cases of this board, when considering majority of opinion, vastly overrating their guys and underrating opponents. You don't need me to tell you that happens. I didn't belittle or ridicule, I pointed out specific events that DID take place. Like I said, take it how you see fit.

Really didn't want to go back through that again, but I hope that clears things up.

Do you still feel Jennings "tore up" Felton per the game comparisons I provided?

See above, I can't really believe I had to explain that to you.

So one Knick homer who stated that he saw Felton burn every team he saw him play against (which may very well be true since Felton burned the Knicks/Duhon every time we played the Bobcats -- and that may be all the games that particular fan saw Felton play), warrants this amount of trolling?

Get lost, we don't need a Bucks fan coming over to our board, who paints our entire fanbase with one brush, and then try and defend your trolling as if you came peacefully.

[paul]

You really want to go back to that thread? I didn't do either of those things

No, you pretty much did.

Dear god, you're still calling me a liar despite the explanation? That's about as personally offensive as it gets but screw it, let's leave it there.

[K_ick_God]

This MILW poster did say that Jennings tore up Felton, I believe. He didn't really qualify it. If anything the games last season showed that they played to a draw but one could even see Felton as having had the upperhand. Jennings really didn't come close to tearing him up on the whole.

But it's whatever. He doesn't think he said that and I don't care enough to go back to the thread. I *believe* those were pretty much his exact words.

[paul]

This MILW poster did say that Jennings tore up Felton, I believe. He didn't really qualify it. If anything the games last season showed that they played to a draw but one could even see Felton as having had the upperhand. Jennings really didn't come close to tearing him up on the whole.

But it's whatever. He doesn't think he said that and I don't care enough to go back to the thread. I *believe* those were pretty much his exact words.

So you didn't read my explanation either? Glad I bothered.

[Striders]

Dear god, you're still calling me a liar despite the explanation? That's about as personally offensive as it gets but screw it, let's leave it there.

Don't really care. I just found it funny how you tried to BS your way out of it.

[paul]

Dear god, you're still calling me a liar despite the explanation? That's about as personally offensive as it gets but screw it, let's leave it there.

Don't really care. I just found it funny how you tried to BS your way out of it.

I was going to get upset, then I realized this is how you say 'I lose'. If you can point to a single false thing I said in that post that is supposedly 'BS' I'd appreciate but I couldn't be happier that I let you drag me into this. All this because I found one guy spelling 'retarted' incorrectly funny....
I'll leave and try to let you get the thread back on track, if I'm kept in the conversation I'll likely post again because of that before someone points it out as they did in that other fun thread.

[K_ick_God]

This MILW poster did say that Jennings tore up Felton, I believe. He didn't really qualify it. If anything the games last season showed that they played to a draw but one could even see Felton as having had the upperhand. Jennings really didn't come close to tearing him up on the whole.

But it's whatever. He doesn't think he said that and I don't care enough to go back to the thread. I *believe* those were pretty much his exact words.

So you didn't read my explanation either? Glad I bothered.

I read it but I read your original comment differently. You seemed to be saying Jennings burned him over and over. If you're not, then we can agree. Felton tore his ass up one game, Jennings hammered him another, and the other two were closer calls.

It's really not that big a deal. Is there something in the air today that is making everybody take things so seriously?

[Capital Edge]

Yeah, again I'd have a look at which fans were leading the charge on that front....

Or you could just read my sig, then laugh.

Er...Capital Edge has made several derogatory comments about Knicks fans. And you yourself insinuated that all Knick fans are homers in the other thread.

Yeah, I know Mil was getting bashed, but don't pretend as if you guys were just defending yourselves.

.....You guys said Felton is better than Jennings and I thought it made you guys look more stupid then you or ready are.

[Striders]

It's really not that big a deal. Is there something in the air today that is making everybody take things so seriously?

Jennings is a hot button issue.

Personally, I don't really care. I'm more sore about losing out on Curry.

[clownparade]

looking at matchups like that dont always work. yes the players are initially matched up but the team around them makes a difference and they arent mirroring each others minutes either, both could torch the others backup then not do much when guarding each other