Around The NBA - [Part 1]: Updated Games PG. 58

[NBA Fan 1234]

De Colo has looked real good for SAS.

[Knicker23]

Wonder if the Warriors are going to be respectable this year. Lee and Bogut is a nice duo, but still doesn't seem like a team going anywhere.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Wonder if the Warriors are going to be respectable this year. Lee and Bogut is a nice duo, but still doesn't seem like a team going anywhere.

I think it depends on whether or not Curry and Bogut can stay healthy.

Bogut can anchor any defense and we all know that Curry is a special offensive player. GS can score from every position, has good passers and ball movers, has a deep bench, and can shoot the lights out.

[frothbrain]

Lin is being exposed for the ROLE player he is.

He made the right choice taking big money in a smaller market.
He'll still have the Chinese fanbase without the hate from NY media.

[yaboynyp]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

[j4remi]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

[Quick Kick]

Lin is being exposed for the ROLE player he is.

He made the right choice taking big money in a smaller market.
He'll still have the Chinese fanbase without the hate from NY media.

B-b-but he has POTENTIAL!! Hes gonna average 22ppg, 9apg, and 2spg!! Youre a hater thats hatin! Dolan is evil! Its Melos fault! (and other assorted stupidity we had to endure over the summer).

[yaboynyp]

Wonder if the Warriors are going to be respectable this year. Lee and Bogut is a nice duo, but still doesn't seem like a team going anywhere.

Respectable meaning…..? Playoffs?

[j4remi]

Lin is being exposed for the ROLE player he is.

He made the right choice taking big money in a smaller market.
He'll still have the Chinese fanbase without the hate from NY media.

B-b-but he has POTENTIAL!! Hes gonna average 22ppg, 9apg, and 2spg!! Youre a hater thats hatin! Dolan is evil! Its Melos fault! (and other assorted stupidity we had to endure over the summer).

Now you're baiting...relax with that.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

Do you think it's true, though? I don't. Machado is a nice player and clearly has talent...however, I don't think he can run an offense right now. Lamb? He's good in the pick and roll, but he can't really run the offense from the off-guard position. Parsons is a solid all around player, but he can't run an offense.

McHale should be tayloring the offense to fit Lin's strengths -- spacing the court, keeping the middle open, and having Lin attack off the dribble in the pick and roll.

[j4remi]

Wonder if the Warriors are going to be respectable this year. Lee and Bogut is a nice duo, but still doesn't seem like a team going anywhere.

Respectable meaning…..? Playoffs?

I would consider playoffs the barometer for respectable and I say they can do it if they actually stay healthy...with Bogut and Curry though, that's a big question mark. Still, they have a LOT of potential between Curry and Thompson...add Bogut and Lee who will produce for sure and that team can sneak in.

[Greenie]

It's only the pre-season, give Lin a chance to get back into shape. However, it's not a good look to have people within your new organization calling you out on your work ethic.

[Quick Kick]

So the rabid Lin fanbase can make all these outlandish claims and statements for months, but when the moment of truth arrives and he falls flat on his face we cant call them out for their bullsh*t? Aite. His middling play is vindication enough for me. Ill leave it alone.

[yaboynyp]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

Good question, but no way I can explain Houston’s offseason. Almost all of their moves except Lin were head scratchers to me… It’s still early though so maybe he gets featured more as the season progresses..

[j4remi]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

Do you think it's true, though? I don't. Machado is a nice player and clearly has talent...however, I don't think he can run an offense right now. Lamb? He's good in the pick and roll, but he can't really run the offense from the off-guard position. Parsons is a solid all around player, but he can't run an offense.

McHale should be tayloring the offense to fit Lin's strengths -- spacing the court, keeping the middle open, and having Lin attack off the dribble in the pick and roll.

I think McHale is gearing the offense to work around Asik from the post (foul line extended)...Which really doesn't say anything about what he thinks for Lin, except that he prefers the off guard to receive and throw the entry pass at a comfortable angle. Asik has looked really talented and he can both pass and score...but let's be honest, if that's his game plan then he's absolutely playing to Lin's weaknesses and Lin has been set up to fail.

I completely agree that Lin should be playing in a spaced offense with Asik setting picks while the wings prep to pop on kickouts...it's what I envisioned as soon as they signed him and Dragic got plenty of pick and rolls...but this offense today was completely geared toward feeding the post and wing pick and rolls. I felt bad for Lin.

[Thugger HBC]

Keep in mind Houston is still searching for that star player, but at the same time, striving for marketability.

Early on Lin isn't above the team.

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[ibraheim718]

Mchale is putting Lin off ball because he doesn’t feel he is their best Orchestrator… Not talking mess but that has to be his thinking.. Coaches don’t take the ball OUT of their best players hands...

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

Did you guys watch friday's game? None of what is happening is a result of what Mchale is doing. The kid himself has been saying he's been a little too passive. I don't think the smart thing for Mchale to do right now in the preseason is run him to death off of PnR's... although against NO on friday he was his old relentless self in the second half and did a little of both (letting the game come to him and attack the paint and bucket).

It's preseason basketball... what teams are trying to do is build up their stamina and find out what kind of rotations work and don't work... you also want to see what the end of the bench players are worth.

I wouldn't read too much into it either way.

[j4remi]

So the rabid Lin fanbase can make all these outlandish claims and statements for months, but when the moment of truth arrives and he falls flat on his face we cant call them out for their bullsh*t? Aite. His middling play is vindication enough for me. Ill leave it alone.

We've got a whole list of new guidelines in order to quell the arguments between the two extremes and to push for constructive discussion. If you want to talk about Lin's poor performance, that's fine...but calling out what others have said just to mock them is baiting, period. Leaving it alone will help us get back to real discussions instead of flame wars and derailed threads.

[Greenie]

I'm fine with that, if true...but then why the hell did they shell out the cash to get him...Just seems really dumb to pay this guy money that could have kept Dragic around (who was successful for this system) just to have him float to wings and play to his weaknesses (off ball jumpers).

Do you think it's true, though? I don't. Machado is a nice player and clearly has talent...however, I don't think he can run an offense right now. Lamb? He's good in the pick and roll, but he can't really run the offense from the off-guard position. Parsons is a solid all around player, but he can't run an offense.

McHale should be tayloring the offense to fit Lin's strengths -- spacing the court, keeping the middle open, and having Lin attack off the dribble in the pick and roll.

I think McHale is gearing the offense to work around Asik from the post (foul line extended)...Which really doesn't say anything about what he thinks for Lin, except that he prefers the off guard to receive and throw the entry pass at a comfortable angle. Asik has looked really talented and he can both pass and score...but let's be honest, if that's his game plan then he's absolutely playing to Lin's weaknesses and Lin has been set up to fail.

I completely agree that Lin should be playing in a spaced offense with Asik setting picks while the wings prep to pop on kickouts...it's what I envisioned as soon as they signed him and Dragic got plenty of pick and rolls...but this offense today was completely geared toward feeding the post and wing pick and rolls. I felt bad for Lin.

I don't. If Lin is as good as people on here said he was he should find a way to score. No matter how the offense is ran.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Lin and Asik's pick and roll with a baseline cutter looked nice. Asik is a really nifty passer...had two nice bounce passes that led to baskets at the rim.

Like you said, Asik has looked good on offense...to be honest, I had no idea he had offensive skills; I thought he was only good on defense. I saw videos of him working on post moves a couple weeks ago, but didn't think much of it. I've been impressed.