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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#221 » by Riot Randolph » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:07 am

People don't want advocate judicial system but than will complain when the justice system refuses to Intercede with clearly racist practices...judicial systems refusal to advocate on underrepresented groups prevents change from occurring...just look up every discrimination challenge on the basis Title VI of Civil Rights Act... Or any racist challenges on the basis of the 14th Amendment...it is foolish to have a pure Constitutionalist they will do anything within there power not to rock the boat...
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Post#222 » by Greenie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:11 am

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Depends. If Trump had ideologies that were close to mine, I wouldn't trust him because he's incompetent but generally, yes I would.

And I don't trust Hillary. So saying people should vote for her due to who she will nominate for SC is null and void.


You don't trust the person or you don't trust her loyalty to the party? Because I definitely don't trust Hillary but I trust her to act in her best interests. At the moment her best interests align with my ideologies.

I don't trust the person. I don't trust Donald either to be totally honest. We can't sleep peacefully with either at the helm. I want to smack the hell out of both of them.
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Post#223 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:32 am

Hypocrite b**ch putting that video out! :lol: How's she gonna put that garbage out when her party openly paraded a former Klansman in a position of power? She's not allowed to peg anyone as a KKK sympathizer.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/
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Post#224 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:39 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:Hypocrite b**ch putting that video out! :lol: How's she gonna put that garbage out when her party openly paraded a former Klansman in a position of power? She's not allowed to peg anyone as a KKK sympathizer.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/

The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists. It's liberating seeing her post such great stuff about him. He's doomed.
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Post#225 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:48 am

BKlutch wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:Hypocrite b**ch putting that video out! :lol: How's she gonna put that garbage out when her party openly paraded a former Klansman in a position of power? She's not allowed to peg anyone as a KKK sympathizer.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/

The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists. It's liberating seeing her post such great stuff about him. He's doomed.


Sure. It doesn't exonerate her, or her party, of having "ties" with the exact same despicable element :lol: . Holy Crap you can't make this up! :lol:
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Post#226 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:49 am

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Greenie wrote:And I don't trust Hillary. So saying people should vote for her due to who she will nominate for SC is null and void.


You don't trust the person or you don't trust her loyalty to the party? Because I definitely don't trust Hillary but I trust her to act in her best interests. At the moment her best interests align with my ideologies.

I don't trust the person. I don't trust Donald either to be totally honest. We can't sleep peacefully with either at the helm. I want to smack the hell out of both of them.


Screw that, smack the hell out of both parties for failing to produce a palatable candidate.
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Post#227 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:54 am

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BBALLER4FR wrote:Hypocrite b**ch putting that video out! :lol: How's she gonna put that garbage out when her party openly paraded a former Klansman in a position of power? She's not allowed to peg anyone as a KKK sympathizer.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/

The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists. It's liberating seeing her post such great stuff about him. He's doomed.


Sure. It doesn't exonerate her, or her party, of having "ties" with the exact same despicable element :lol: . Holy Crap you can't make this up! :lol:

I think you are making some of this up. Would you like to explain how HC supports the KKK? I think you're going to say some things that will reveal a lot about your thinking here. Wanna do this? Go for it.
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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#228 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:06 am

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BKlutch wrote:The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists. It's liberating seeing her post such great stuff about him. He's doomed.


Sure. It doesn't exonerate her, or her party, of having "ties" with the exact same despicable element :lol: . Holy Crap you can't make this up! :lol:

I think you are making some of this up. Would you like to explain how HC supports the KKK? I think you're going to say some things that will reveal a lot about your thinking here. Wanna do this? Go for it.


I said supports? I never said she supports the KKK. I said her and her party paraded someone who supported the KKK by giving them a great deal of power and now she wants to associate her opponent with Klansmen :lol:. Now seeing as we can put words in each others mouths, tell me where Trump said he supports eating the bodies of late term fetuses? Go for it.
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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#229 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:10 am

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Sure. It doesn't exonerate her, or her party, of having "ties" with the exact same despicable element :lol: . Holy Crap you can't make this up! :lol:

I think you are making some of this up. Would you like to explain how HC supports the KKK? I think you're going to say some things that will reveal a lot about your thinking here. Wanna do this? Go for it.


I said supports? I never said she supports the KKK. I said her and her party paraded someone who supported the KKK by giving them a great deal of power and now she wants to associate her opponent with Klansmen :lol:. Now seeing as we can put words in each others mouths, tell me where Trump said he supports eating the bodies of late term fetuses? Go for it.

Then please explain how she and her party paraded anyone who supports the KKK. I think you're trying to do something fairly sneaky and disingenuous. Make yourself clear, and we'll continue this.

Making innuendos and writing half truths does not work, so lets hear it again from you in your own words. Yes, I know you tried to make this argument before and it was shot down, but don't ask me to try to piece together what you said. If you want to discuss this, it's your job. Do your best presenting this.

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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#230 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:24 am

BKlutch wrote:
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BKlutch wrote:I think you are making some of this up. Would you like to explain how HC supports the KKK? I think you're going to say some things that will reveal a lot about your thinking here. Wanna do this? Go for it.


I said supports? I never said she supports the KKK. I said her and her party paraded someone who supported the KKK by giving them a great deal of power and now she wants to associate her opponent with Klansmen :lol:. Now seeing as we can put words in each others mouths, tell me where Trump said he supports eating the bodies of late term fetuses? Go for it.

Then please explain how she and her party paraded anyone who supports the KKK. I think you're trying to do something fairly sneaky and disingenuous. Make yourself clear, and we'll continue this.

Making innuendos and writing half truths does not work, so lets hear it again from you in your own words. Yes, I know you tried to make this argument before and it was shot down, but don't ask me to try to piece together what you said. If you want to discuss this, it's your job. Do your best presenting this.

Good night.


Are you serious? You proudly post a hit piece of Hillary associating Klansmen to Trump, follow it up with "The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists" as if that's justification for such a smear, and now pretend that you don't know that Robert Byrd was at one time associated with the Klan? Yes I've made this argument and the silly rebuttal always became "Well he apologized" as if that is some magical way to wipe away participating in a group that lynched African Americans never mind how Byrd aided in the attempted filibuster of the Civil Rights Act. Please! That's her party. That's, in her words, her mentor. That's her association. And it's far better than some half baked testimonials from nuts who want to see Trump elected.
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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#231 » by Fat Kat » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:30 am

BKlutch wrote:This video was put out by Hillary's camp. I can't believe she's being so direct... maybe the times call for this:

https://amp.twimg.com/v/d0846c31-a8dc-4ded-8a8c-21bff379ec7f


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Post#232 » by CJackson » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:40 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
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I said supports? I never said she supports the KKK. I said her and her party paraded someone who supported the KKK by giving them a great deal of power and now she wants to associate her opponent with Klansmen :lol:. Now seeing as we can put words in each others mouths, tell me where Trump said he supports eating the bodies of late term fetuses? Go for it.

Then please explain how she and her party paraded anyone who supports the KKK. I think you're trying to do something fairly sneaky and disingenuous. Make yourself clear, and we'll continue this.

Making innuendos and writing half truths does not work, so lets hear it again from you in your own words. Yes, I know you tried to make this argument before and it was shot down, but don't ask me to try to piece together what you said. If you want to discuss this, it's your job. Do your best presenting this.

Good night.


Are you serious? You proudly post a hit piece of Hillary associating Klansmen to Trump, follow it up with "The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists" as if that's justification for such a smear, and now pretend that you don't know that Robert Byrd was at one time associated with the Klan? Yes I've made this argument and the silly rebuttal always became "Well he apologized" as if that is some magical way to wipe away participating in a group that lynched African Americans never mind how Byrd aided in the attempted filibuster of the Civil Rights Act. Please! That's her party. That's, in her words, her mentor. That's her association. And it's far better than some half baked testimonials from nuts who want to see Trump elected.


You only post to rebut criticisms of Trump with attacks on Hillary.

What do you actually believe in?
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Post#233 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:44 am

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I said supports? I never said she supports the KKK. I said her and her party paraded someone who supported the KKK by giving them a great deal of power and now she wants to associate her opponent with Klansmen :lol:. Now seeing as we can put words in each others mouths, tell me where Trump said he supports eating the bodies of late term fetuses? Go for it.

Then please explain how she and her party paraded anyone who supports the KKK. I think you're trying to do something fairly sneaky and disingenuous. Make yourself clear, and we'll continue this.

Making innuendos and writing half truths does not work, so lets hear it again from you in your own words. Yes, I know you tried to make this argument before and it was shot down, but don't ask me to try to piece together what you said. If you want to discuss this, it's your job. Do your best presenting this.

Good night.


Are you serious? You proudly post a hit piece of Hillary associating Klansmen to Trump, follow it up with "The fact is that most people believe Trump is pushing his ties to the alt Right and white supremacists" as if that's justification for such a smear, and now pretend that you don't know that Robert Byrd was at one time associated with the Klan? Yes I've made this argument and the silly rebuttal always became "Well he apologized" as if that is some magical way to wipe away participating in a group that lynched African Americans never mind how Byrd aided in the attempted filibuster of the Civil Rights Act. Please! That's her party. That's, in her words, her mentor. That's her association. And it's far better than some half baked testimonials from nuts who want to see Trump elected.

I am serious.

I did proudly out that great exposé by Hillary.

Most people have good judgment and can tell from what Trump said that this is true.

I don't pretend anything - how dare you expect to have a conversation and say I pretend? I know what you said, and I'm saying it's intellectually dishonest not to state exactly what you mean in your post, so you can hide behind someone else not quoting you exactly. A famous alt Right technique.

Yes, everyone knows -- ahh, here's the "secret" you didn't want to say directly -- that Robert Byrd had a racist past. If you had lived through the 60's, you'd know that many former racists disavowed their past behavior and have become long term champions of civil rights. Some people change, grow, and evolve to embrace far better ideologies. They don't remain in their past. Even former murderers have found some sort of personal salvation in embracing a love of humanity.

So what we're saying is that while Byrd had a past that he's repudiated, it is Trump's PRESENT beliefs and his CURRENT statements that are racist, disgusting, and vile. Fat Kat's post of a few minutes ago only begins to show this -- it's documented too well.

I really won't continue this discussion because the way you're arguing this is highly disingenuous and you're not honestly attempting to discover any truth here -- you're words attempt to distort and manipulate the discussion (argument) in a way that nothing can be accomplished. So continue this, if you want. I'm eager to see how many people you can persuade to your way of thinking.

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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#234 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:37 am

BKlutch wrote:Yes, everyone knows -- ahh, here's the "secret" you didn't want to say directly -- that Robert Byrd had a racist past. If you had lived through the 60's, you'd know that many former racists disavowed their past behavior and have become long term champions of civil rights. Some people change, grow, and evolve to embrace far better ideologies. They don't remain in their past. Even former murderers have found some sort of personal salvation in embracing a love of humanity. So what we're saying is that while Byrd had a past that he's repudiated, it is Trump's PRESENT beliefs and his CURRENT statements that are racist, disgusting, and vile. Fat Kat's post of a few minutes ago only begins to show this -- it's documented too well.


What an overly simplistic and juvenile way to treat something as massive as leading in a hate group that sought the destruction of entire races? So, you mean to tell me that being not just a member, but the Grand Kleagle of THE most despicable, bigoted terrorist group America has ever spawned, a man who stated...

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.


... a man who had part in the attempted filibuster of The Civil Rights Act and called Martin Luther King a rabble rouser, and a man who with the aforementioned history, was the only Senator to vote against both Clearance Thomas and Thurgood Marshall can not only get the slate wiped clean but rise to the second highest power, yet Trumps off the cuff words warrant a KKK "expose" (as you put it) and a racist tag by the woman who stood shoulder to shoulder with the Robert Byrd? You guys are weird about who you forgive and who you repudiate.

And there's nothing "documented" that Fat Kat posted other than Hillary Clinton's words. If that what you consider "documented too well" then you might need some of that sleep.
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Post#235 » by CJackson » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:41 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Yes, everyone knows -- ahh, here's the "secret" you didn't want to say directly -- that Robert Byrd had a racist past. If you had lived through the 60's, you'd know that many former racists disavowed their past behavior and have become long term champions of civil rights. Some people change, grow, and evolve to embrace far better ideologies. They don't remain in their past. Even former murderers have found some sort of personal salvation in embracing a love of humanity. So what we're saying is that while Byrd had a past that he's repudiated, it is Trump's PRESENT beliefs and his CURRENT statements that are racist, disgusting, and vile. Fat Kat's post of a few minutes ago only begins to show this -- it's documented too well.


What an overly simplistic and juvenile way to treat something as massive as leading in a hate group that sought the destruction of entire races? So, you mean to tell me that being not just a member, but the Grand Kleagle of THE most despicable, bigoted terrorist group America has ever spawned, a man who stated...

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.


... a man who had part in the attempted filibuster of The Civil Rights Act and called Martin Luther King a rabble rouser, and a man who with the aforementioned history, was the only Senator to vote against both Clearance Thomas and Thurgood Marshall can not only get the slate wiped clean but rise to the second highest power, yet Trumps off the cuff words warrant a KKK "expose" (as you put it) and a racist tag by the woman who stood shoulder to shoulder with the Robert Byrd? You guys are weird about who you forgive and who you repudiate.

And there's nothing "documented" that Fat Kat posted other than Hillary Clinton's words. If that what you consider "documented to well" then you might need some of that sleep.


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Re: All Things POLITICS 3.0 

Post#236 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:52 am

CJackson wrote:
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BKlutch wrote:Yes, everyone knows -- ahh, here's the "secret" you didn't want to say directly -- that Robert Byrd had a racist past. If you had lived through the 60's, you'd know that many former racists disavowed their past behavior and have become long term champions of civil rights. Some people change, grow, and evolve to embrace far better ideologies. They don't remain in their past. Even former murderers have found some sort of personal salvation in embracing a love of humanity. So what we're saying is that while Byrd had a past that he's repudiated, it is Trump's PRESENT beliefs and his CURRENT statements that are racist, disgusting, and vile. Fat Kat's post of a few minutes ago only begins to show this -- it's documented too well.


What an overly simplistic and juvenile way to treat something as massive as leading in a hate group that sought the destruction of entire races? So, you mean to tell me that being not just a member, but the Grand Kleagle of THE most despicable, bigoted terrorist group America has ever spawned, a man who stated...

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.


... a man who had part in the attempted filibuster of The Civil Rights Act and called Martin Luther King a rabble rouser, and a man who with the aforementioned history, was the only Senator to vote against both Clearance Thomas and Thurgood Marshall can not only get the slate wiped clean but rise to the second highest power, yet Trumps off the cuff words warrant a KKK "expose" (as you put it) and a racist tag by the woman who stood shoulder to shoulder with the Robert Byrd? You guys are weird about who you forgive and who you repudiate.

And there's nothing "documented" that Fat Kat posted other than Hillary Clinton's words. If that what you consider "documented to well" then you might need some of that sleep.


So what exactly do you believe in?


I believe that both parties are awful but the Democrat party is the Pied Piper that has blacks believing it's in their best interest to vote blue. I don't like hypocrites and I can't stand liars. Other than that, I'm fairly good.
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Post#237 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:07 am

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You don't trust the person or you don't trust her loyalty to the party? Because I definitely don't trust Hillary but I trust her to act in her best interests. At the moment her best interests align with my ideologies.

I don't trust the person. I don't trust Donald either to be totally honest. We can't sleep peacefully with either at the helm. I want to smack the hell out of both of them.


Screw that, smack the hell out of both parties for failing to produce a palatable candidate.


We had Bernie who is the best out of the bunch, but the DNC and the MSM didn't want him. So they put their thumbs on the scale.

Edit: To be fair, Bernie had no name recognition with the older black vote down south where Clinton had a clear advantage going in.
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Post#238 » by Greenie » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:08 am

If you want to post KKK stuff you can't chose to be mad at one and not the other.
You wouldn't like Trump supporters dismissing his Klan ties while bashing Hillary for hers. Why do you expect that treatment from Hillary detractors?

This is why I say this is more a red Vs blue thing then an actual presidential race. If you can sit here and tell me you are appalled at Trump but not at Clinton for having Klan ties then something is really wrong with the thought process.

This presidential race is only proving that we need to fully get rid of political parties. I'm convinced half the liberals in here arguing for Hillary would do the same for Trump if he wore blue and had a (D) next to his name.

Anything you can call out on Trump being racist can be said about Hillary. Now if you don't want your issue on that dismissed you can't dismiss people presenting the same crap on Hillary. She really has some nerve to try and call out ANYONE for Klan ties with her own history. It's as if she thinks we don't know how she, herself gets down. And for people to sit here and give a Klansman a damn pass pisses me off. My Grandmother grew up in Jim Crow in Mississippi and saw crosses burn and "strange fruit" hang from trees. No Klansman gets a pass. NONE. Till this very day she refuses to go back down south. I can't take anyone handing Klansman passes on one hand while talking social change on the other seriously.
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Post#239 » by CJackson » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:16 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
CJackson wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
What an overly simplistic and juvenile way to treat something as massive as leading in a hate group that sought the destruction of entire races? So, you mean to tell me that being not just a member, but the Grand Kleagle of THE most despicable, bigoted terrorist group America has ever spawned, a man who stated...



... a man who had part in the attempted filibuster of The Civil Rights Act and called Martin Luther King a rabble rouser, and a man who with the aforementioned history, was the only Senator to vote against both Clearance Thomas and Thurgood Marshall can not only get the slate wiped clean but rise to the second highest power, yet Trumps off the cuff words warrant a KKK "expose" (as you put it) and a racist tag by the woman who stood shoulder to shoulder with the Robert Byrd? You guys are weird about who you forgive and who you repudiate.

And there's nothing "documented" that Fat Kat posted other than Hillary Clinton's words. If that what you consider "documented to well" then you might need some of that sleep.


So what exactly do you believe in?


I believe that both parties are awful but the Democrat party is the Pied Piper that has blacks believing it's in their best interest to vote blue. I don't like hypocrites and I can't stand liars. Other than that, I'm fairly good.


I gave you a blank check. Is that it? We already know what your pet peeves are so I was asking so you would take the time to actually post something else besides the one-note hypocrisy warrior stuff you only seem interested in talking about.

We all have our peeves and dislikes, but what you posted hardly constitutes the basis for any forward looking viewpoint on what you actually want.
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