Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

[SoCalKnickFan]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Everything you just said is total bullchit.

Agreed... O.J. says Hi.

[Kampuchea]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Invite me to whatever dream world you live in, because that is absolutely not the case in reality in the US.

If I was on a jury I would look at that particular case and not be impacted by race or sex at all. How about you? And the rest of you?

It can't be that a significant portion of the jury is racist and sexist, those odds must be rather slim as I would imagine most people feel as I do, that race matters little when judging an individual person.

[HarthorneWingo]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Invite me to whatever dream world you live in, because that is absolutely not the case in reality in the US.

If I was on a jury I would look at that particular case and not be impacted by race or sex at all. How about you? And the rest of you?

It can't be that a significant portion of the jury is racist and sexist, those odds must be rather slim as I would imagine most people feel as I do, that race matters little when judging an individual person.

If you were a defendant in a rape trial, would you want women the age and race of the victim in your case on the jury?

[Ignitowsky]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Invite me to whatever dream world you live in, because that is absolutely not the case in reality in the US.

If I was on a jury I would look at that particular case and not be impacted by race or sex at all. How about you? And the rest of you?

It can't be that a significant portion of the jury is racist and sexist, those odds must be rather slim as I would imagine most people feel as I do, that race matters little when judging an individual person.

OJ Simpson disagrees.

[blueNorange]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

dude, a guy raped a girl and he just got 3 months in jail because the judge thought jail would ruin him.

[taikibansei]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Invite me to whatever dream world you live in, because that is absolutely not the case in reality in the US.

If I was on a jury I would look at that particular case and not be impacted by race or sex at all. How about you? And the rest of you?

It can't be that a significant portion of the jury is racist and sexist, those odds must be rather slim as I would imagine most people feel as I do, that race matters little when judging an individual person.

According to a recently updated study by Professor Katherine Beckett of the University of Washington, jurors in Washington "were four and one half times more likely to impose a sentence of death when the defendant was black than [] they were in cases involving similarly situated white defendants."(Updated edition, including data through 2014, published 2015).The earlier version of the study had found that juries were three times more likely to recommend a death sentence for a black defendant than for a white defendant in a similar case. The disparity in sentencing occurred despite the fact that prosecutors were slightly more likely to seek the death penalty against white defendants. The study examined 285 cases in which defendants were convicted of aggravated murder. The cases were analyzed for factors that might influence sentencing, including the number of victims, the prior criminal record of the defendant, and the number of aggravating factors alleged by the prosecutor.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/WashRaceStudy2014.pdf

Blatant racism is seen and heard too often in courtrooms around the country. In death penalty cases, the use of derogatory slurs kindles the flames of prejudice and allows the jury to judge harshly those they wish to scapegoat for the problem of crime. A few examples illustrate the intensity of this racism:

1 "One of you two is gonna hang for this. Since you're the ****, you're elected."3 These words were spoken by a Texas police officer to Clarence Brandley, who was charged with the murder of a white high school girl. Brandley was later exonerated in 1990 after ten years on death row.
2 In preparing for the penalty phase of an African-American defendant's trial, a white judge in Florida said in open court: "Since the **** mom and dad are here anyway, why don't we go ahead and do the penalty phase today instead of having to subpoena them back at cost to the state."4Anthony Peek was sentenced to death and the sentence was upheld by the Florida Supreme Court in 1986 reviewing his claim of racial bias.
3 A prosecutor in Alabama gave as his reason for striking several potential jurors the fact that they were affiliated with Alabama State University -- a predominantly black institution. This pretext was considered race neutral by the reviewing court. 5
4 During the 1997 election campaign for Philadelphia's District Attorney, it was revealed that one of the candidates had produced, as an Assistant D.A., a training video for new prosecutors in which he instructed them about whom to exclude from the jury, noting that "young black women are very bad" on the jury for a prosecutor, and that "blacks from low-income areas are less likely to convict."6 The training tape also instructed the new recruits on how to hide the racial motivation for their jury strikes.
5 In Missouri, Judge Earl Blackwell issued a signed press release about his judicial election announcing his new affiliation with the Republican Party while presiding over a death penalty case against an unemployed African-American defendant. The press release stated, in part: "[T]he Democrat party places far too much emphasis on representing minorities . . . people who dont' (sic) want to work, and people with a skin that's any color but white . . . ."7 The judge denied a motion to recuse himself from the trial. The defendant, Brian Kinder, was convicted and sentenced to death, and Missouri's Supreme Court affirmed in 1996.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-black-and-white-who-lives-who-dies-who-decides

Data Analysis
: The data set was analyzed using meta-analytic analogues to traditional analysis of variance, and multiple-regression. Results
: Eighty-five studies meeting our stated eligibility criteria were located. Analysis of these data reveal that, after taking into
account defendant criminal history and current offense seriousness, African-Americans and Latinos were generally sentenced more
harshly than whites.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208129.pdf

Racial and ethnic disparities weaken the credibility of a justice system that purports to treat everyone equitably. Across the country, juvenile justice systems are marked by disparate racial outcomes at every stage of the process, starting with more frequent arrests for youth of color and ending with more frequent secure placement.

http://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/disproportionate-minority-contact-in-the-juvenile-justice-system/

I can keep going and going and going on this. There are literally hundreds of studies out there establishing the role race plays in whether someone is arrested, convicted and sentenced for the same crimes. Look up "Texas 'affluenza' teen" and the Brock Turner rape case for more examples.

Normally, I'd write here that I hope you're just trolling...but even if you are trolling, this is not a topic to troll about, in my opinion.

[Kampuchea]

Studies which reference 40 year old cases? Really? America has come a long way from there. What a useless data set.

I think OJ was a one-off due to a brief period of racial tension.

[taikibansei]

Studies which reference 40 year old cases? Really? America has come a long way from there. What a useless data set.

Studies "including data through 2014 and published 2015."

Troll....

[Kampuchea]

Better for you to step away from the topic instead of calling names and attacking if you disagree.

One thing I hope we can agree on is to stop veering off topic, which I take the blame for.

I still think Rose is not going to be found guilty regardless of jury makeup but either way view him as a lowlife and deviant.

[NBA Fan 1234]

It doesn't matter the sex or race of the jurors. This is about guilty or innocent, and your race doesn't play a factor in determining that.

Invite me to whatever dream world you live in, because that is absolutely not the case in reality in the US.

If I was on a jury I would look at that particular case and not be impacted by race or sex at all. How about you? And the rest of you?

It can't be that a significant portion of the jury is racist and sexist, those odds must be rather slim as I would imagine most people feel as I do, that race matters little when judging an individual person.

I would as well, but that doesn't happen in real life with real jurors. There are absolutely biases that have an impact on the outcome of the trial.

[Knickerbock]

Isn't jury supposed to be diverse.. In order to be fair and right...

Please tell me why the jury is predominantly Hispanic women... Just like the accuser Jane doe

[BKlutch]

Part of the issue is that data has shown that race and gender affect jury decisions, but the jurors may not be aware of their own biases - even if they believe they are trying hard to be fair. More people think they are without prejudice than actually are fair and evenhanded.

[trophywinner]

Isn't jury supposed to be diverse.. In order to be fair and right...

Please tell me why the jury is predominantly Hispanic women... Just like the accuser Jane doe

well it is random selection, it's just that it's LA. over 50% of the population is hispanic

[KnicksScholar24]

Studies which reference 40 year old cases? Really? America has come a long way from there. What a useless data set.

I think OJ was a one-off due to a brief period of racial tension.

Donald Trump's presidential bid says otherwise. It is a litmus test for just how racist American are, imo. It is also a litmus test for how many people lack the ability to think logical or make reasoned decisions.

Keep being delusional, Kampuchea.

Just because you are objective enough to view the trail fairly doesn't mean other people are. That doesn't even considered any subconscious bias you or other people may have. The evidence proves there are DEFINITE inequality/fairness within the U.S. legal system based on race, especially in the Confederate-loving, Trump-voting south.

Law enforcement and the judicial system has been a joke for a long time. The political system is catching up.

America has come a long way of hiding it's racial prejudices, not in getting rid of them. And any positive change has be due to generational changes, which can go either way. So far the change is racial prejudices has been in the positive direction.

I still think Rose is not going to be found guilty regardless of jury makeup but either way view him as a lowlife and deviant.

Claims the legal system is fair and that he/she could be impartial as a jury member, later on admits that he/she thinks Derrick Rose is a lowlife and a deviant.

Couldn't make this stuff up.

We can all see how a juror's bias could affect a decision regardless of case evidence. The juror would use cognitive dissonance to convince themselves that they are fair and not biased. Something tells me that a juror who views Rose as a deviant lowlife from the start is going to find a way to see the defense's arguments as poor or ineffective.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Do not turn this into a Trump thread. Only warning.

[NYKBaller]

Do not turn this into a Trump thread. Only warning.

Is that even possible for that to happen? Only a matter of time

[Drun53]

Rose still hasn't shown up, so he's running quite late. Ugh what are you doing?

[King of Canada]

Rose still hasn't shown up, so he's running quite late. Ugh what are you doing?

He's actually late for his own trial?

[Drun53]

Rose still hasn't shown up, so he's running quite late. Ugh what are you doing?

He's actually late for his own trial?

Yes. What an idiot.

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[King of Canada]

Rose still hasn't shown up, so he's running quite late. Ugh what are you doing?

He's actually late for his own trial?

Yes. What an idiot.

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At least he's not alone. My god, what a dope. That's on his lawyer too. He may end up being able to assign a dollar value to each of those minutes.