"A Tale of 2 Hardawayz"

[god shammgod]

he sprained his knee a month ago and still is not playing. teams aren't even trying to be slick. but if kp never got hurt this team would still be fighting it's way towards the 14th pick. this franchise is the worst. lol

[Capn'O]

magic vs knicks tonight, we can see the grand results from investing in hardaway or fournier live and in person. i'm sure it's gonna be great.

Fournier hasn't played in weeks. He's playing tonight?

Probably googled himself...

You are called "Never Google" for a **** reason, Evan.

[springcadre]

THJ, Harrison Barnes, Fournier, they’re all trash. THJ is the same player he’s always been, bad defense and flashes of highlight reel offense with bad shooting despite that being what he was supposed to do coming into the league.

I’d rather have Fournier because of his size and consistent shooting touch, but wouldn’t make any of them my foundation piece for a contending team. No less invest $17million a God damn year for a perrenial 8th man on a good team.

What’s this super high ceiling I’m hearing about?

[Capn'O]

THJ, Harrison Barnes, Fournier, they’re all trash. THJ is the same player he’s always been, bad defense and flashes of highlight reel offense with bad shooting despite that being what he was supposed to do coming into the league.

I’d rather have Fournier because of his size and consistent shooting touch, but wouldn’t make any of them my foundation piece for a contending team. No less invest $17million a God damn year for a perrenial 8th man on a good team.

What’s this super high ceiling I’m hearing about?

Thanks for that Marvin. Now back to Tess for the AccuWeather forecast.

[Capn'O]

Fournier hasn't played in weeks. He's playing tonight?

i guess you're right. he's not.

Yeah...he killed me in fantasy. He was killing it for me and then...the tank injury has had him on the sidelines for a month at least. Devin Booker too. Tyreke Evans. These guys were filling up stat sheets all year and then the tank race took them out. I finished second trying to replace their production.

End rant.

Try having Kawhi.

[Clyde_Style]

is this still going ?

Yes. And my reply to you is contributing to the cause. Whatever it takes.

[thebuzzardman]

magic vs knicks tonight, we can see the grand results from investing in hardaway or fournier live and in person. i'm sure it's gonna be great.

Magic not sitting Fournier with a hangnail?

[IllmaticHandler]

THJ, Harrison Barnes, Fournier, they’re all trash. THJ is the same player he’s always been, bad defense and flashes of highlight reel offense with bad shooting despite that being what he was supposed to do coming into the league.

I’d rather have Fournier because of his size and consistent shooting touch, but wouldn’t make any of them my foundation piece for a contending team. No less invest $17million a God damn year for a perrenial 8th man on a good team.

What’s this super high ceiling I’m hearing about?

[NY 567]

Timmy's a mindless chucker, a good bad shot shooter, glorified Jamal Crawford. He's an okay 6th man, awful for that contract though,

[dakomish23]

A lot of folks also know nothing about basketball. Timmy took a starting job on a playoff team last year. Barnes is performing on a terrible team.

Both are putting up similar numbers on garbage teams this year.

Except Barnes does it better.

Timmy had these same numbers when we were winning and last year in Atlanta as they won. Barnes has never had numbers on a winning team his whole career and his whole offensive game is just iso, iso, iso despite having a great coach and offensive system around him.

Timmy’s erratic performance is also a major reason why we are picking in the top part of the lottery.

Dude has hot streaks and disappears for weeks. He’s a wild card and I don’t want that in the starting lineup.

[dakomish23]

I don't want any of those guys as one of my top options.

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

[springcadre]

I don't want any of those guys as one of my top options.

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

It would make a little sense if THJ were ever a glorified role player, say Bismarck Biyombo in the series against the Cavs before he got his own bloated contract. But the Knicks just splurged on THJ for no reason, he was terrible against Washington in his only playoff appearance and wildly inconsistent in Atlanta in a much better system with a real coach. I have no idea how you look at a one way “swing man” with no outside shot and think he’s a stud, I’d give him a $5mil deal with a team option max.

[dakomish23]

I don't want any of those guys as one of my top options.

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

It would make a little sense if THJ were ever a glorified role player, say Bismarck Biyombo in the series against the Cavs before he got his own bloated contract. But the Knicks just splurged on THJ for no reason, he was terrible against Washington in his only playoff appearance and wildly inconsistent in Atlanta in a much better system with a real coach. I have no idea how you look at a one way “swing man” with no outside shot and think he’s a stud, I’d give him a $5mil deal with a team option max.

Preaching to the choir

I wanted us to use the cap space to gain assets. I wanted to take on salary dumps that ended by 2019, the year we should strike.

Some fans felt spending this money on THJ was a sign of the youth movement and felt it was a steal. Someone even argued to me that THJ even helped us land KP.

I said he was a 6th man when he was playing really well. I’m not fooled by the hot nights or shimmy.

[dakomish23]

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[JohnStarksTheDunk]

I don't want any of those guys as one of my top options.

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

It would make a little sense if THJ were ever a glorified role player, say Bismarck Biyombo in the series against the Cavs before he got his own bloated contract. But the Knicks just splurged on THJ for no reason, he was terrible against Washington in his only playoff appearance and wildly inconsistent in Atlanta in a much better system with a real coach. I have no idea how you look at a one way “swing man” with no outside shot and think he’s a stud, I’d give him a $5mil deal with a team option max.

Pretty much.

But I disagree slightly on dollars. Although his market value wasn't as high as what we paid, it was definitely higher than $5 million per. Not that the Knicks should have been looking to pay market value for a 6th man before they had the rest of the team built anyway.

[springcadre]

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

It would make a little sense if THJ were ever a glorified role player, say Bismarck Biyombo in the series against the Cavs before he got his own bloated contract. But the Knicks just splurged on THJ for no reason, he was terrible against Washington in his only playoff appearance and wildly inconsistent in Atlanta in a much better system with a real coach. I have no idea how you look at a one way “swing man” with no outside shot and think he’s a stud, I’d give him a $5mil deal with a team option max.

Pretty much.

But I disagree slightly on dollars. Although his market value wasn't as high as what we paid, it was definitely higher than $5 million per. Not that the Knicks should have been looking to pay market value for a 6th man before they had the rest of the team built anyway.

If I were the GM I’d be looking for value contracts given the payroll.

[dakomish23]

Unfortunately you’re a Knicks fan. Glorified role players have always been miscast as one of the top options for as long as I can remember.

It would make a little sense if THJ were ever a glorified role player, say Bismarck Biyombo in the series against the Cavs before he got his own bloated contract. But the Knicks just splurged on THJ for no reason, he was terrible against Washington in his only playoff appearance and wildly inconsistent in Atlanta in a much better system with a real coach. I have no idea how you look at a one way “swing man” with no outside shot and think he’s a stud, I’d give him a $5mil deal with a team option max.

Pretty much.

But I disagree slightly on dollars. Although his market value wasn't as high as what we paid, it was definitely higher than $5 million per. Not that the Knicks should have been looking to pay market value for a 6th man before they had the rest of the team built anyway.

The only redeeming aspect of the signing is that the Knicks in theory get THJ through his prime years.

[ctorres]

Timmy has shot 51.7% on 2pt fg's for the season. 81.9% from the free throw line isn't bad either.

His problem has been his erratic 3pt shooting at 31.3% for the season.

He really needs to work on that three ball. He was a 35% 3pt shooter during his first four NBA seasons on 4.5 attempts per game.

However, he is shooting 7.2 3pt attempts per game this season.

What can Timmy do in the offseason to improve upon his 3pt percentage? He definitely needs to take 7+ 3pt attempts per game, but he needs to be converting at around 35-37% like Eric Gordon and James Harden.

[IllmaticHandler]

[dakomish23]

I wonder where we’d be if we did salary dumps for picks, had a better pick last year and had a ton of cap space ready to go in 2019.

Right now it’s all question marks