[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

Br00kLyn · Post #221 » by **Br00kLyn** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:52 pm

I like Mikal, I think hes going to be a very solid player and will be very valuable on a winning team. The problem is that knick fans are going to want whoever they pick at #9 to come in and be a star, i dont think Mikal has star potential, just a really good 3 and D guy. He will help us no doubt, but I am not sure its the right pick

Post #222 » by **DOT** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:52 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
spree8 wrote:Looks like ESPN’s analytics has Mikal as the 5th best overall, highest potential steel, and 2nd highest All Star chances. Not too shabby.

sounds like a low upside, finished product to me

people get to wrapped up in age...if the kid can ball what 21 year old has peaked his potential?

if we stay at 9 mikal should be the pick.

This is an extreme example, but would Giannis's stock be worse at 21 than it was at 18? No, because he showed marked improvement from year to year

Not saying Mikal is Giannis, just for y'all that wanna jump me on that

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Floozenheimen · Post #223 » by **Floozenheimen** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:55 pm

Would Memphis agree to this?

Parsons and #4 for Burke, LMFT & Lee #36 and unprotected 2019 1st rounder and 2020 1st rounder pick swap rights?

It's risky as we could be garbage again next year, but if we have #4 and #9 this year, we could be looking at Bamba/Mikail or if we're really lucky Doncic/Anyone at 9 because who gives a ****, Doncic is a generational talent being overlooked because he's European. Personally, I"d only do it if Doncic is available. Bamba doesn't move the needle for me like Doncic.

Seriously though, a team with Frank/Mikail/KP and Bamba would be insane on the defensive end.

Br00kLyn · Post #224 » by **Br00kLyn** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:58 pm

Floozenheimen wrote:Would Memphis agree to this?

Parsons and #4 for Burke, LMFT & Lee #36 and unprotected 2019 1st rounder and 2020 1st rounder pick swap rights?

It's risky as we could be garbage again next year, but if we have #4 and #9 this year, we could be looking at Bamba/Mikail or if we're really lucky Doncic/Anyone at 9 because who gives a ****, Doncic is a generational talent being overlooked because he's European. Personally, I"d only do it if Doncic is available. Bamba doesn't move the needle for me like Doncic.

Seriously though, a team with Frank/Mikail/KP and Bamba would be insane on the defensive end.

I cant see any way we get 4 without giving up 9 and frank. Its a strong draft so #4 has alot of value

Post #225 » by **DOT** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:59 pm

Floozenheimen wrote:Would Memphis agree to this?

Parsons and #4 for Burke, LMFT & Lee #36 and unprotected 2019 1st rounder and 2020 1st rounder pick swap rights?

It's risky as we could be garbage again next year, but if we have #4 and #9 this year, we could be looking at Bamba/Mikail or if we're really lucky Doncic/Anyone at 9 because who gives a ****, Doncic is a generational talent being overlooked because he's European. Personally, I"d only do it if Doncic is available. Bamba doesn't move the needle for me like Doncic.

Seriously though, a team with Frank/Mikail/KP and Bamba would be insane on the defensive end.

No unprotected firsts

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KnicksGadfly · Post #226 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:00 pm

Floozenheimen wrote:Would Memphis agree to this?

Parsons and #4 for Burke, LMFT & Lee #36 and unprotected 2019 1st rounder and 2020 1st rounder pick swap rights?

It's risky as we could be garbage again next year, but if we have #4 and #9 this year, we could be looking at Bamba/Mikail or if we're really lucky Doncic/Anyone at 9 because who gives a ****, Doncic is a generational talent being overlooked because he's European. Personally, I"d only do it if Doncic is available. Bamba doesn't move the needle for me like Doncic.

Seriously though, a team with Frank/Mikail/KP and Bamba would be insane on the defensive end.

Hm why would pick makal instead of knux

TheGreenArrow · Post #227 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Both have us taking knox.

HAPPY KNOX DAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

Fury · Post #228 » by **Fury** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:03 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Both have us taking knox.

HAPPY KNOX DAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

Well, if he ends up sucking ass, we can have Miles Bridges to blame

Post #229 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:05 pm

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
sounds like a low upside, finished product to me

people get to wrapped up in age...if the kid can ball what 21 year old has peaked his potential?

if we stay at 9 mikal should be the pick.
This is an extreme example, but would Giannis's stock be worse at 21 than it was at 18? No, because he showed marked improvement from year to year

Not saying Mikal is Giannis, just for y'all that wanna jump me on that

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On the other end just because someone is 18 or 19, it doesn’t guarantee they will improve a lot either. There have been many top HS recruits that come into the NBA at a young age, struggle and never really improve a ton.

Post #230 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:06 pm

Fury wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Both have us taking knox.

HAPPY KNOX DAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

Well, if he ends up sucking ass, we can have Miles Bridges to blame

workout warriors always give me pause...lets just ignore an entire year for a few hours of 3 on 3 basketball...

KnickLeDime · Post #231 » by **KnickLeDime** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:10 pm

People know I'm no Mikal fan, I think he'll be a very pedestrian low level NBA starter at best but if he's the pick...I'll root like hell for him to prove me wrong. Let's go KNICKS!

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #232 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:14 pm

Kyrie
Frank
?
KP
Bamba

Toranaga · Post #233 » by **Toranaga** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Br00kLyn wrote:I like Mikal, I think hes going to be a very solid player and will be very valuable on a winning team. The problem is that knick fans are going to want whoever they pick at #9 to come in and be a star, i dont think Mikal has star potential, just a really good 3 and D guy. He will help us no doubt, but I am not sure its the right pick

It doesn't matter who or what the fans want. That's how you get in trouble and management wouldn't be doing the job they were hired to do if they let fan influence seep in.

Management needs to identify the player that would help this franchise the most at the 9 spot and pick him. It seems like they have put exhaustive work in during the process. Just pick the player at the top of the board.

SmoothLefty21 · Post #234 » by **SmoothLefty21** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Does DX's final mock have SGA going #6 to Orlando?

KnickLeDime · Post #235 » by **KnickLeDime** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:18 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:Does DX's final mock have SGA going #6 to Orlando?

Yes

Br00kLyn · Post #236 » by **Br00kLyn** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:19 pm

_NYK_ wrote:
Br00kLyn wrote:I like Mikal, I think hes going to be a very solid player and will be very valuable on a winning team. The problem is that knick fans are going to want whoever they pick at #9 to come in and be a star, i dont think Mikal has star potential, just a really good 3 and D guy. He will help us no doubt, but I am not sure its the right pick

It doesn't matter who or what the fans want. That's how you get in trouble and management wouldn't be doing the job they were hired to do if they let fan influence seep in.

Management needs to identify the player that would help this franchise the most at the 9 spot and pick him. It seems like they have put exhaustive work in during the process. Just pick the player at the top of the board.

yes obviously, but after all this is a message board for fans and the only place where we can have a say of what we want. If they feel Mikal is the best pick at 9, then great I will root for him to succeed. I just feel he isnt a game changer like some of the other players that could be available are

Post #237 » by **King of Canada** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:20 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Kyrie
Frank
?
KP
Bamba

If we trade for #4 Kyrie is likely no longer an option, but we could be players in 20?

Mecca · Post #238 » by **Mecca** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:21 pm

Happy to see my guy SGA rising. The tape don’t lie.

F N 11 · Post #239 » by **F N 11** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm

go with the young guy with potential. I like mikal been riding with him but I cant look past Knox's attributes and developing skills. Mikal or Knox.

KnixinSix · Post #240 » by **KnixinSix** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:23 pm

Br00kLyn wrote:
Floozenheimen wrote:Would Memphis agree to this?

Parsons and #4 for Burke, LMFT & Lee #36 and unprotected 2019 1st rounder and 2020 1st rounder pick swap rights?

It's risky as we could be garbage again next year, but if we have #4 and #9 this year, we could be looking at Bamba/Mikail or if we're really lucky Doncic/Anyone at 9 because who gives a ****, Doncic is a generational talent being overlooked because he's European. Personally, I"d only do it if Doncic is available. Bamba doesn't move the needle for me like Doncic.

Seriously though, a team with Frank/Mikail/KP and Bamba would be insane on the defensive end.

I cant see any way we get 4 without giving up 9 and frank. Its a strong draft so #4 has alot of value

Amazed if we give up BOTH Frank and 9 AND take on a 50 million sunk cost of a contract. This is a deep draft and the value at 9 is not stratospherically different than 4.