Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius

[KnicksGadfly]

you're wrong. some knick fans on this forum like julius randle. i wouldn't frame difference of opinion this way. player sentiment like this occurs on a spectrum.

if you want to focus on potential trade partners, i'd leave it at that. the phrasing in this OP is really asking for unnecessary smoke.

well......one does

I’m not defending Julius Randall here but if we trade him we would need to acquire someone else who can bring 19 and 9 per game. I remember when we traded David Lee and Zach Randolph. We were the only team that had two players averaging a double double on the same team. That’s not easy to do. I know it was to create cap space and that’s how we got Stoudemire but honestly what other team wanted Stoudemire? None.
Trade for more draft picks is what I would do.

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say a washed mike conely is still better then any pg the Knicks have had in maybe over a decade

I think he's still got some game left for one more year. Especially coming off a shortened season. Anyhow, we get rid of Randle and pick up an asset. Win-Win-Win.

[god shammgod]

well......one does

I’m not defending Julius Randall here but if we trade him we would need to acquire someone else who can bring 19 and 9 per game. I remember when we traded David Lee and Zach Randolph. We were the only team that had two players averaging a double double on the same team. That’s not easy to do. I know it was to create cap space and that’s how we got Stoudemire but honestly what other team wanted Stoudemire? None.
Trade for more draft picks is what I would do.

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

if this is sarcasm i love it. if not, i want this board shut down forever and all trace of it wiped from the internet.

[J9Starks3]

well......one does

I’m not defending Julius Randall here but if we trade him we would need to acquire someone else who can bring 19 and 9 per game. I remember when we traded David Lee and Zach Randolph. We were the only team that had two players averaging a double double on the same team. That’s not easy to do. I know it was to create cap space and that’s how we got Stoudemire but honestly what other team wanted Stoudemire? None.
Trade for more draft picks is what I would do.

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

40 and 20...giving up 60 and 30...

[KnicksGadfly]

I’m not defending Julius Randall here but if we trade him we would need to acquire someone else who can bring 19 and 9 per game. I remember when we traded David Lee and Zach Randolph. We were the only team that had two players averaging a double double on the same team. That’s not easy to do. I know it was to create cap space and that’s how we got Stoudemire but honestly what other team wanted Stoudemire? None.
Trade for more draft picks is what I would do.

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

40 and 20...giving up 60 and 30...

No man, 20 and 10! 20 and 10 don't grow on trees in this league! They're just not in their right roles!

[KnicksGadfly]

I’m not defending Julius Randall here but if we trade him we would need to acquire someone else who can bring 19 and 9 per game. I remember when we traded David Lee and Zach Randolph. We were the only team that had two players averaging a double double on the same team. That’s not easy to do. I know it was to create cap space and that’s how we got Stoudemire but honestly what other team wanted Stoudemire? None.
Trade for more draft picks is what I would do.

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

if this is sarcasm i love it. if not, i want this board shut down forever and all trace of it wiped from the internet.

Why? Are you Knicks fans just going to blame Kanter and Randle again? Spoiled fans!!!

[J9Starks3]

I miss those days. I think if we kept Kanter and paired him with Randle, we'd have two guys who could average 20 and 10. Maybe win a few championships with bullyball.

40 and 20...giving up 60 and 30...

No man, 20 and 10! 20 and 10 don't grow on trees in this league! They're just not in their right roles!

Oh now that you put it that way... I understand



hoping Utah’s FO is reading the forum*

[Kampuchea]

They should just give us Conley for **** us with Layden back in the day

[nyknicks09]

They should just give us Conley for **** us with Layden back in the day

Shandon Anderson anyone

[moocow007]

They should just give us Conley for **** us with Layden back in the day

Shandon Anderson anyone

Shandon "Hands of Stone" Anderson, Howard "I Just Suck" Eisley and Clarence "3 Chins on the Back of the Neck" Weatherspoon? How can any diehard Knick fan forget. That was a trio for the ages.

[WargamesX]

On the low if the money wasn’t as bad league wide we would likely be stuck with Randle

Conley and jumping from, #27 to #23 in the draft and maybe sending them DSJ too is pretty good. Also we all might not like Randle, but him playing as the Jazz 6th man is going to make him look a lot better...... be prepared for that.

The real reason to move Randle is he is such a bad fit next to RJ, and the roster needs a stretch 4.

[moocow007]

On the low if the money wasn’t as bad league wide we would likely be stuck with Randle

Conley and jumping from, #27 to #23 in the draft and maybe sending them DSJ too is pretty good. Also we all might not like Randle, but him playing as the Jazz 6th man is going to make him look a lot better...... be prepared for that.

The real reason to move Randle is he is such a bad fit next to RJ, and the roster needs a stretch 4.

But then again, if the Knicks actually had a top tier PG that can get everyone easy shots, Randle wouldn't look as bad as he did trying to create his own shot pretty much every single time down the floor. So there's that. But yeah, Randle was more productive on a more balanced team (the Pelicans) and if you put him on a team where he doesn't have to do things he's not great at, he can probably be better than he was for the Knicks. Put him on a team like the Hornets who desperately need someone that can actually score in the front court and that has better PG's (not hard) and he'll go back to looking like he did for the Pelicans.

[Juco24]

They should just give us Conley for **** us with Layden back in the day

Shandon Anderson anyone

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T MENTION THAT NAME. Just the sight of it gives me hives.

[Juco24]

They should just give us Conley for **** us with Layden back in the day

Shandon Anderson anyone

Shandon "Hands of Stone" Anderson, Howard "I Just Suck" Eisley and Clarence "3 Chins on the Back of the Neck" Weatherspoon? How can any diehard Knick fan forget. That was a trio for the ages.

Oh Gawd... them memories.... nightmares

[WargamesX]

On the low if the money wasn’t as bad league wide we would likely be stuck with Randle

Conley and jumping from, #27 to #23 in the draft and maybe sending them DSJ too is pretty good. Also we all might not like Randle, but him playing as the Jazz 6th man is going to make him look a lot better...... be prepared for that.

The real reason to move Randle is he is such a bad fit next to RJ, and the roster needs a stretch 4.

But then again, if the Knicks actually had a top tier PG that can get everyone easy shots, Randle wouldn't look as bad as he did trying to create his own shot pretty much every single time down the floor. So there's that. But yeah, Randle was more productive on a more balanced team (the Pelicans) and if you put him on a team where he doesn't have to do things he's not great at, he can probably be better than he was for the Knicks. Put him on a team like the Hornets who desperately need someone that can actually score in the front court and that has better PG's (not hard) and he'll go back to looking like he did for the Pelicans.

You can have this conversation about almost everyone on the roster except the PG’s. It also give credence to why the Knicks should trade for Conley and draft a PG to be his understudy/backup.

[moocow007]

On the low if the money wasn’t as bad league wide we would likely be stuck with Randle

Conley and jumping from, #27 to #23 in the draft and maybe sending them DSJ too is pretty good. Also we all might not like Randle, but him playing as the Jazz 6th man is going to make him look a lot better...... be prepared for that.

The real reason to move Randle is he is such a bad fit next to RJ, and the roster needs a stretch 4.

But then again, if the Knicks actually had a top tier PG that can get everyone easy shots, Randle wouldn't look as bad as he did trying to create his own shot pretty much every single time down the floor. So there's that. But yeah, Randle was more productive on a more balanced team (the Pelicans) and if you put him on a team where he doesn't have to do things he's not great at, he can probably be better than he was for the Knicks. Put him on a team like the Hornets who desperately need someone that can actually score in the front court and that has better PG's (not hard) and he'll go back to looking like he did for the Pelicans.

You can have this conversation about almost everyone on the roster except the PG’s. It also give credence to why the Knicks should trade for Conley and draft a PG to be his understudy/backup.

Absolutley. It applies to just about everyone. Barrett in particular as well. The Knicks basically asked Barrett to be a point forward and then, when he couldn't (just a rookie), they expected him to create his own shot just like Randle and he couldn't. Marcus Morris was lucky that his 3 point shot was falling or he'd have had the same problems. That actually is a testament to how potentially good Mitchell Robinson can be if he actually had a real PG that was able to get him the ball when he's heading to the basket. Robinson probably can then even put the ball on the floor for a couple dribbles and do something rather than just the occasional alley dunk.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I wouldn't want Conley without a pick, he's just not that good and would be a stop gap at PG, leaving us without a long term solution at the position.


The sad part about Randle is that he'd be a great 6th man, but I doubt he wants to accept that role.

[GONYK]

I wouldn't want Conley without a pick, he's just not that good and would be a stop gap at PG, leaving us without a long term solution at the position.


The sad part about Randle is that he'd be a great 6th man, but I doubt he wants to accept that role.

How does not trading for Conley solve our PG position long term?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I wouldn't want Conley without a pick, he's just not that good and would be a stop gap at PG, leaving us without a long term solution at the position.


The sad part about Randle is that he'd be a great 6th man, but I doubt he wants to accept that role.

How does not trading for Conley solve our PG position long term?

I want Fredderick Edmund VanVleet Sr. so trading for Mike stops us from doing what's right

[GONYK]

I wouldn't want Conley without a pick, he's just not that good and would be a stop gap at PG, leaving us without a long term solution at the position.


The sad part about Randle is that he'd be a great 6th man, but I doubt he wants to accept that role.

How does not trading for Conley solve our PG position long term?

I want Fredderick Edmund VanVleet Sr. so trading for Mike stops us from doing what's right

Ah, that makes sense