BaF Season 4- Opening Night 12/1- (Announcement page 57)

[El Poochio]

I may have less star power than some of the top teams but I think I have the best possible spacing to optimize it, we will see if sim agrees

[bishnykfan]

The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to sign:




Kevon Looney for $1/3 years.

[bishnykfan]

TRANSACTION

The Atlanta Hawks have waived Evan Turner.

[2010]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

[mpharris36]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

[King of Canada]

[Smash3]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

It comes down to fit, speaking for Portland none of our players are getting CB’d. Even though we have a lot of stars they’re all pretty low usage even KD.

[HEZI]

[Smash3]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Unless you need a player for a specific role or need to improve defense or shooting; 9/10 you’re better off with the more talented player.

It makes no sense to choose a George Hill over Irving just because he’d be happier with 8-10 FGA per game and he’s a sniper. Now if the team needed spacing badly you probably go Danny Green over Dipo (31% from deep) even though Dipo is the more talented player by far.

Again it comes down to fit, but IMO if the players fit you’re always better off with more talent.

[NewEra]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second & third highest scorers (5-star rated Westbrook, and 3-star rated Lou Will), averaged 17ppg respectively. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

[mpharris36]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

[Smash3]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

GSW bench mob was crazy too

[Smash3]

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

You’re worried about the wrong things MP, if the 4th player is averaging 12-14 points and they’re winning why is that a problem?

At the end of the day teams with a big 3/4 should be good if they accounted for fit:

Player A: 18 FGA
Player B: 17 FGA
Player C: 15 FGA
Player D: 8-10 FGA

Teams average like 90 FGA

[2010]

I do agree with that. I think for example a guy like Harris who might not be as good as other SG's is perfect for the role where he will get 10 shots a game and make the most of those shots rather than pegging a wing that is use to 18 shots a game and think he would be as efficient shooting mostly 3's.

I don't think anyone has reached 120 ppg in the SIM...maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember that.

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

Exactly.

For my team specifically, I don't have multiple stars. And due to my cap situation and being targeted this offseason, I had to prioritize fit over talent, in some instances.

But overall I think I have surrounded LeBron with a strong supporting cast that allows him to be a high usage player who will be able to score & pass at an MVP level while having the spacing facilitated by a plethora of shooters, a skilled big, a rim runner, and swiss army defenders.

May not reflect much in the GM rankings, as it isn't sexy, but I'm hoping it bears fruit when the games begin to be played.

My biggest concern is a potential injury to LeBron. Other than that, I like our chances.

[2010]

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

You’re worried about the wrong things MP, if the 4th player is averaging 12-14 points and they’re winning why is that a problem?

At the end of the day teams with a big 3/4 should be good if they accounted for fit:

Player A: 18 FGA
Player B: 17 FGA
Player C: 15 FGA
Player D: 8-10 FGA

Teams average like 90 FGA

Yeah, but if the team averages 90 FGA, but with decreased attempts per player, if some of those players see a drop in efficiency, that could negatively effect the team’s performance. If bears watching.

I love what you did this offseason (really every offseason). But for instance take Lowry. His value IRL has exceeded his value in the SIM thus far because when he was in Charlotte he wasn’t high usage. And on your squad that likely won’t change. Then add in the fact that he has never been an efficient shooter, despite putting them up on high volumes, it can be argued George Hill could have been just as good a fit considering he connected at a 45% clip from three last season IRL. Which should translate to nearly automatic in the SIM.

Now where you have proven as a savant is you built that squad without having to overpay for anyone. So you really have nothing to lose.

I’m just interested in seeing how this all plays out.

[Smash3]

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

You’re worried about the wrong things MP, if the 4th player is averaging 12-14 points and they’re winning why is that a problem?

At the end of the day teams with a big 3/4 should be good if they accounted for fit:

Player A: 18 FGA
Player B: 17 FGA
Player C: 15 FGA
Player D: 8-10 FGA

Teams average like 90 FGA

Yeah, but if the team averages 90 FGA, but with decreased attempts per player, if some of those players see a drop in efficiency, that could negatively effect the team’s performance. If bears watching.

I love what you did this offseason (really every offseason). But for instance take Lowry. His value IRL has exceeded his value in the SIM thus far because when he was in Charlotte he wasn’t high usage. And on your squad that likely won’t change. Then add in the fact that he has never been an efficient shooter, despite putting them up on high volumes, it can be argued George Hill could have been just as good a fit considering he connected at a 45% clip from three last season IRL. Which should translate to nearly automatic in the SIM.

Now where you have proven as a savant is you built that squad without having to overpay for anyone. So you really have nothing to lose.

I’m just interested in seeing how this all plays out.

For Portland I don't see a drop in efficiency coming as my best scorers are KD, Derozan, Warren and Powell who are all super efficient, a couple less FGA for Siakam will only do him good, he'll be more efficient and can focus more on anchoring the defense with Allen.

I don't need Lowry to be high usage I needed a floor general with all this talent, and when/if DeRozan or Siakam isn't around he can step into the third option. George Hill could never be the floor general or be the third option, because as good as his stats are he'll be capped at 6 FGA – like DJ was for us, DJ had elite shooting splits like Hill but when Irving went down he didn't take more FGA's he capped out at his regular 5-6 attempts - Lowry can get up to 15-8 FGA's when one of our stars are gone.

I'm not saying your approach with going with fit over talent was wrong, you picked the right pieces around Bron for him to dominate, but I'm saying our team got lucky enough to get the talent and fit.

[mpharris36]

Warriors averaged 118ppg last season in sim. Our highest scorer averaged 24ppg, and our second highest scorer (5-star rated Westbrook), averaged 17ppg. We had two “stars” and a bunch of role players that fit together.

Our goal was to maximize everyone’s potential by giving them space to do what they do best. Whether that was rebounding, scoring, passing, defending, or three-point shooting. It worked out. We won the chip with one 5 star player.

yeah and you had a great lineup and a amazing bench. So someone may hit 120 this year...but I think 2010 point is no one is going to avg 150 so a guy in real life that is avg 20 pts in real life but is the 4th option will probably be avg 12-14 pts just by the law of averages.

You’re worried about the wrong things MP, if the 4th player is averaging 12-14 points and they’re winning why is that a problem?

At the end of the day teams with a big 3/4 should be good if they accounted for fit:

Player A: 18 FGA
Player B: 17 FGA
Player C: 15 FGA
Player D: 8-10 FGA

Teams average like 90 FGA

well I'm making the argument if the fit isn't there. For like your team I have no concerns about fit since I think they fit well. But teams that maybe have an bad defensive player that isn't the best off ball player but is just a really good player might not be able to get the most value out of him.

Sometimes roles matter more than talent. As long as you have the high level talent as well.

[SOUL]

Watch on YouTube

The Sacramento Kings sign Fidel Castro to a $1/4 year contract.

[El Poochio]

I think a lot of y'all are forgetting that despite all these teams with big names and stacked lineups, basketball is still a game that's played with only one ball.

A lot of guys will be getting Chris Boshed. There are only but so many possessions and shots available in a game, even factoring in increased pace. No one is averaging 150 ppg as a team. So many of these players who have been high usage in the past will be seeing lower usage and decreased stats on their current teams, considering the make up of it.

This is why PJ Tucker is the most important player on earth

[El Poochio]

Watch on YouTube

The Sacramento Kings sign Fidel Castro to a $1/4 year contract.

I see your Fidel and raise you with:

Spoiler:

New Orleans Pelicans have agreed to sign Kim Jong-Un to a $2/3 contract