PG: Knicks-Hawks aka 1,2,3,Cancun! (Hawks win series 4-1)

[BBALLER4FR]

Julius melted down.

But Thibs ruined us.

SERIES was tied 1-1 and coming off a win.

And then Thibs destroyed us.

He made Derrick Rose a starter.

Which

A.) Ruined our starting 5's chemistry.
B.) Absolutely ruined our backup unit.

Extremely fun regular season.

Most frustrating Playoff series ever.

The two guys that got us to the playoffs in Thibs and Julius; became the same two guys who sent us home and eliminated us.

That's ridiculous. Inserting Rose in the starting spot was not the undoing. Starting 5 had no chemistry. It had us down in most games and playing 4 on 5 most nights. What it did was hide Randle's ineffectiveness. We were so keyed in on Payton's ****, that Randle's non-team, non-winning basketball went unnoticed and instead of him being the villain (which he should have), he became the the guy everyone implored to get help. THEN, you get him some help and he looks not just bad, but stupid. Can't adjust. Unsure of what to do. Still looking to orchestrate. Short fuse. Bad body language. Worse effort.

Thib's putting Rose in the starting lineup was not stupid because he did it in game 2. It was moronic beyond believe because he waited that long. He should have done that MONTHS ago and everyone (including Thibs) knew it.

Should he have done it months ago? Our bench unit and chemistry looked better with Rose in that 6th man role. We got blown out 3 games in a row. I still think we would have lost the series but the changes to the starting lineup were a terrible mistake

Months ago. We should have weened Randle off that point/forward role and forced him to play within the offense. Thibs allowed Randle to frankenstien every offensive possession to make up for Payton's lack of playmaking. Yes. Thins put in a guy who cannot orchestrate an offense to force Randle into that role. Inserting Rose exposed the $#!t hout of Randle. If he can't destroy an offense to get his numbers he does NOTHING!!!

[seren]

We are one player away from four players

[Red Vines]

Worst backcourt in the league almost every season, find a **** top tier lead guard. Randle's regular season effort doesn't translate to the playoffs, too slow to beat the defense, not athletic enough to finish against good defenders, needs too much time to get his shot off, very average passer at best, I would try to sell high if possible.

[br7knicks]

Thank you for the season, Knicks.

For the first time in ten years, I was finally excited to watch my Knicks. They made this season great and fun to watch.


This was the best Knicks season I've watched, as a fan since 2003.


Thank you, and come back stronger next year.

My man! Now come over and join Build a Franchise. We got about three open slots. Would be great to have you.

I can try to rejoin.

I had the suns and pg13. Can give it another go

[DowNY]

Low key this is probably karma for Dolan immediately raising prices for the possible second round advancing

Lmfao this got me on the floor

[Cookies4Life]

Thibs is who he is. A bunch of analysts had a great take on him; he can change a team's fortunes and get them out of the doldrums but he's not going to take you to a championship based off his antiquated style on offense. He's a great stopgap coach to right the ship and than bring in someone more offensively innovative to get you over the hump.

He runs his offense based on his personnel. This antiquated **** is a myth. If he had better offensive players we would have a better offense. Simple as that.

It's a myth? Ok please enlighten me on what team he's coached for in the NBA where he promulgated an innovative brand of offense? Take your time...

[Grinditout]

The team made the playoffs.
They have 2 draft picks this offseason.
They have alot of cap space.

Decent positions. Just hope the FO doesnt screw it up.

[robillionaire]

yall still want to pay rose he looks pretty tired, we need a young pg. like lonzo

Lonzo fixes nothing we saw in this series.... nothing at all.

he could probably play defense on Trae and make 3 pointers

[Jeff Van Gully]

Overachieving season. Never want to see it end. Add talent and do it again.

[Oscirus]

If I wasn’t such an as*hole, I’d almost feel bad for Randle. Key word being if. Guy played out of his mind all year, basically carried a team comprised of lottery busts and scrap heap free agents to home court in the playoffs, and no one will give one, single, solitary shyt because of the epic choke job he just put up. Too bad. Was a nice story

I'm not mad at Randle at all... He elevated his game, he maxed out his own talent, but he was exposed when the other team was playing for something.

Dude is not built for the playoffs.. it's his destiny to put up big stats in the regular season on bad to fringe playoff teams.

I will, however, be very ANGRY at the Knicks FO if they decided to sign this guy to long term money.

Randle had one bad playoff series, cant say hes not built for anything based off five games. Its something to pay attention to but not something to hang ones hat on just yet

[dakomish23]

i mean it's clear knicks are going to trade for someone or re-sign burks/bullock because ain't no way thibs playing 3 rookies, 2 sophomores, and a 21 year rj in a rotation.

GSW 14 pick is my guess

[ENYK]

I am honestly convinced we will see a Wolves or OKC championship before the Knicks get one... at least the other terrible franchises know how to properly execute a tank.

Because tanking produces so many championships huh…

Yeah, okay. The Knicks signing and trading for a bunch of pseudo stars has worked wonders in the past.

I feel like most of you are 14 years old or something. The last time we had a team worth watching it was built around a number one pick we drafted.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Welcome to Knicks fandom.

[snadler]

The fact that many can’t appreciate what this team did by winning 41 games is sad..they were a 20 win team that became the 4th seed..

[evevale]

Reading comments like



Can’t believe it’s over

[DowNY]

Hell of a season. I’m not even mad. Draft less than a month. We must make the correct trade(s)

[Clyde Frazier]

Hope all of you "let's build around Julius" idiots are amused... This is what happens when you put your faith in fake a** imitation NBA stars. On the road to a championship accept nothing but the real deal... Destroy and Rebuild.

try to make sense next time

[K_ick_God]

That was so bad that I’m not sure anybody can overcome it. That’s my honest opinion. Maybe Obi and Q.

The rest seems like indelible failure lol.

[DowNY]

Trade for Sexton , sign Lonzo, sign Norman Powell, re-sign Rose, Bullocks, Taj & Noel

[Maury2423]

So many overreactions are going to happen in this thread lol

Yes, we were absolutely terrible and I expected more but I knew they had more talent and the best player in the series so this wasnt going to be easy. I am very disappointed in the lack of effort and lack of adjustments by Thibs and our players but at the end of the day, the Hawks are far more talented.

If you really expected Randle to be the same Randle that played in the regular season, well that's your fault for those false expectation. Randle is, AT BEST, as low tier 2nd option on a good playoff team. And I cant be mad at RJ because he isnt skilled enough yet but I know he is going to put in the work this summer, also he played pretty hard and never gave up or gave in mentally(like Randle did in game 4).

I agree with you on RJ but not Randle. Julius doesn't look like a 3rd option on a good playoff team, let alone a championship caliber one. He has 6 season of playing like he did in this playoff series and one shortened regular season where he played very well in a contract year during the middle of a pandemic in empty arenas.

The Hawks just gave a very easy blueprint for teams to utilize on how to gameplan for Randle defensively next year.

I see what you're saying but if Randle is not the guy getting doubled and tripled on every play, I think he plays much better imo. He'll be able to take advantage of a lot of angles that are definitely not there for him now and his 3 ball has gotten so much better to shoot off the catch or attack a close out. Don't get me wrong, I dont think he is a 2nd option on a contender but he is a low tier 2nd option on a good playoff team. At best, he's a 3rd option on a contender.

[seren]

The team made the playoffs.
They have 2 draft picks this offseason.
They have alot of cap space.

Decent positions. Just hope the FO doesnt screw it up.

We are drafting where Boston drafts regularly. Those picks are not that useful