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[DOT]

France doesn't have the best record in recent conflicts.

https://vividmaps.com/4500-years-of-battles-in-5-minutes/

They haven't done much in the modern era, I look at those numbers and see inflated stats against weak militaries that had peasants and farmers on the roster. It was a weak era for militaries.

France is basically the Knicks of war, when you think about it

I bet their TS (total soldiers killed) percentage is bad, but you have to adjust for the times, so their TS+ is probably decent.

[Guano]

France doesn't have the best record in recent conflicts.

https://vividmaps.com/4500-years-of-battles-in-5-minutes/

They haven't done much in the modern era, I look at those numbers and see inflated stats against weak militaries that had peasants and farmers on the roster. It was a weak era for militaries.

we have a wilt chamberlain hater on our hands here

[NoDopeOnSundays]

https://vividmaps.com/4500-years-of-battles-in-5-minutes/

They haven't done much in the modern era, I look at those numbers and see inflated stats against weak militaries that had peasants and farmers on the roster. It was a weak era for militaries.

we have a wilt chamberlain hater on our hands here

Is this your way of saying Fournier is WIlt Chamberlain?

[KnicksNext]

If you saw Ben Wallace play when he was a 22-year-old rookie and take a look at those states you would know the comparisons are on point. With rookies we can talk about their potential, it is on them to reach it or not. Sims is loaded with raw skills and should be our backup center the rest of this year and hopefully next year. By year three or four we should know what we have.

Listen man.. I get it. There's nothing wrong about being excited about a young player. But when you start putting a name like Ben Wallace as a comparison, you're really setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. I'm assuming you know just how good Ben Wallace was, correct? Did you get a chance to watch him a lot? Dude was special at what he did, and was so consistent for a long time. If Sims could accomplish 1/4th of what Wallace did in his career, he would still end up being a good player.

Thanks for enlightening us on Ben Wallace's greatness. Next time we'll check with you before talking about our rook's potential.

You should, instead of embarrassing yourself trying to compare a 2nd round draft pick to an all-time great.

[Guano]

They haven't done much in the modern era, I look at those numbers and see inflated stats against weak militaries that had peasants and farmers on the roster. It was a weak era for militaries.

we have a wilt chamberlain hater on our hands here

Is this your way of saying Fournier is WIlt Chamberlain?

I don't insult Fourni3r by comparing him to mortals.

[HarthorneWingo]

We haven't beaten the Nets in two years.

remember this

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but but but we gave up too much to get him

Melo was Randle without the assists or rebounds.

[moocow007]

It one thing to say you expect a player to become another player...but just on a style basis, he reminds be of Ben Wallace. Ultra high motor, great strength and athleticism. He doesn't yet display the defense skills or rim protection...but just his raw energy,hops, and strength...made me think of Ben.

I get it. Physically yes and with some aspects of how he plays for sure. The difference is that Ben Wallace (even coming out of Virginia Union) had a nasty edge to his game that Sims doesn't seem to have. And that type of intensity (along with his crazy physical package) is what ultimately set Ben Wallace on track to be one of the best defensive players in NBA history. Had to since Wallace was only about 6'7" without the fro top.

Right Sims lack of emotion reminds me of Tim Duncan

If Sims can show that Duncan patented bank shot I'm all in.

[moocow007]

I missed this one but these tweets seems to sum it up

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This is the natural outcome of an offensive system that is not advanced mixed in with the lack of a top tier shot creating PG...like this (for you guys that never watched MVP Rose play, you missed one of the most impressive seasons I've personally ever watched):

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Do we blame the head coach for not having a creative offense? Do we blame the top players on the team for not being able to do more (than realistically possible)? Or do we blame the front office for not being able to build a balanced team that fits the coaches system or the players already under contract on this team?

Spoiler:

The reason the Knicks did so well last season was cause they were in the midst of the new car smell with Thibs and Randle was playing out of this world (and out of his norm). Now that the new car smell is gone and Randle is playing more like what he is (which is not a no.1 option on a top tier team) what we see is what it is.

The Knicks front office had more cap space than the GDP of some 3rd world nations this past offseason and managed to do absolutely diddly squat and didn't account for the inevitable wearing off of the new car smell nor that it was unrealistic to expect Randle to be able to keep going at MIP pace (especially when they had high proof during the Hawks series that the team that ended last season wasn't enough).

This is why my blame is aimed right at the top of the funnel as they had the most room to do what was needed.

I would blame the front office first, then coach. We just dont have the horses. No PG hurts and we have a lot of guys that need the ball and like to shoot, and not a lot of ball movers. That is on the front office.

At the same time the system also stinks with players fighting for the same spots and the other players hiding in a corner with a big clogging the paint. Would love to see some more small ball and creativity to encourage more movement and open things up. Play faster because when we slow down we look even worse and struggle to get good looks.

Last year looks more and more like a fluke. Even last year, our offense wasn't even that good. Mostly our defense propelled us.
Randle could not sustain some of his shooting/defense and our overall defense took a big hit with the changes.

Yep agreed. Maybe playing small will help actually. Problem is Thibs and his offense (and defense). It's really not geared towards small ball. But that's again the front office not being able to build a team that fits the coach that they hired.

[HerSports85]

Good win by Cha and ATL tonight. TOR looking strong too

[RHODEY]

Listen man.. I get it. There's nothing wrong about being excited about a young player. But when you start putting a name like Ben Wallace as a comparison, you're really setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. I'm assuming you know just how good Ben Wallace was, correct? Did you get a chance to watch him a lot? Dude was special at what he did, and was so consistent for a long time. If Sims could accomplish 1/4th of what Wallace did in his career, he would still end up being a good player.

Thanks for enlightening us on Ben Wallace's greatness. Next time we'll check with you before talking about our rook's potential.

I should...check my fragile ego, instead of embarrassing myself because I'm for starved for... attention.

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[evevale]

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[nedleeds]

Listen man.. I get it. There's nothing wrong about being excited about a young player. But when you start putting a name like Ben Wallace as a comparison, you're really setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. I'm assuming you know just how good Ben Wallace was, correct? Did you get a chance to watch him a lot? Dude was special at what he did, and was so consistent for a long time. If Sims could accomplish 1/4th of what Wallace did in his career, he would still end up being a good player.

Thanks for enlightening us on Ben Wallace's greatness. Next time we'll check with you before talking about our rook's potential.

You should, instead of embarrassing yourself trying to compare a 2nd round draft pick to an all-time great.

If Ben Wallace hadn't been traded from the Bullets he'd be Theo Ratcliff.

[Reign23]

remember this

Watch on YouTube

but but but we gave up too much to get him

Melo was Randle without the assists or rebounds.

yes, this is how Carmelo Anthony is viewed around the league. Julius Randle without the assists or Rebounds.

[Jimmit79]

Melo was better scorer Randle is better all around player. If melo was allowed to play to his strengths by the refs he would have taken knicks far in playoffs unfortunately he wasn't and Randle is being handcuffed for same reasons by NBA.

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[Guano]

Melo was better scorer Randle is better all around player. If melo was allowed to play to his strengths by the refs he would have taken knicks far in playoffs unfortunately he wasn't and Randle is being handcuffed for same reasons by NBA.

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The only reason I like this post is because Sham is going to read it and regret defending Jimmit from being banned.

[moocow007]

The Knicks problems during the Melo and (now) Randle era is that they were unable to build a team around either guy. This in no part was due to the less than stellar front offices that they have been trotting out there for over 2 decades now. Melo and Randle aren't Lebron and the Greek Freak. You cannot simply rely on them to carry the weight that these other better players carry and be successful at it. When the best player that Melo has had consistently for the bulk of his tenure in NY is JR Smith, you know you're in trouble. Randle? Who's his counterpart? Same problem. These guys are flawed talented players that simply cannot carry shlock teams on their own to anything serious (unlike their superior and more rounded contemporaries). Doesn't mean they are the Anti-Christ (as they have been treated at times).

[Deeeez Knicks]

We all know Randle is not a #1. But can he even make a good #2 or #3? He struggles off the ball and his game falls apart when he doesnt have the ball. Plus he is not a good defender. Doesn't really seem like an ideal #2 or #3 either since you want those guys to be able to play off the ball some, defer and help out on defense.

Plus, yea, Randle is nowhere near as good as Melo was.

[DaGawd]

Melo was better scorer Randle is better all around player. If melo was allowed to play to his strengths by the refs he would have taken knicks far in playoffs unfortunately he wasn't and Randle is being handcuffed for same reasons by NBA.

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Melo in his prime was way better than Randle ever will be.

[Chanel Bomber]

Melo-Randle was never a reasonable comparison.

Melo was more efficient, way more dynamic as an offensive player, and way tougher mentally.

Melo made the playoffs his first 10 years in the league, including his first 3 in New York.

Without the addition of Derrick Rose, Randle still wouldn't have played a single playoff game at 27 years of age, and would currently rank #8 all-time in most games played without a playoff appearance. Of course he made the playoffs last year (once), and he played a big part in that, so that point is moot and perhaps a little unfair to him, but I mention this just to put this comparison into perspective.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Melo was better scorer Randle is better all around player. If melo was allowed to play to his strengths by the refs he would have taken knicks far in playoffs unfortunately he wasn't and Randle is being handcuffed for same reasons by NBA.

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The only reason I like this post is because Sham is going to read it and regret defending Jimmit from being banned.

If only Randle had a great supporting cast like Bargnani and Felton and the championship would be ours. Team fourni3r and Team RJ both taking hits with that one