Knicks Draft Post Mortem

[G_K_F]

Still don’t even think we get Brunson. Really doesn’t even make sense. We probably will make a run at Beal or just settle for Brogdon.

even if we get brunson (and I like him). What does Brunson/RJ/Randle get you? Make the playoffs? Potentially then where from there?

We are now sitting in NBA purgatory. Wont draft high enough (potentially in a loaded class). Not a championship contender.

They really think the fan base is excited to try for the play in game???

Judging by the reaction of some here - they are.

[newyorker4ever]

I want Leon Rose fired immediately

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Nah... he dont deserve to be arrested this peacefully.


More like this.



Then once he is in the integration room ...

[moocow007]

CANT WAIT

Quickley was the guy the entire time. D Rose is healthy.

And the dreadful

“WE LIKE WHAT WE HAVE”

When Brunson turns us down.

Don't forget the part about the Knicks then throwing that money at role players for more money and years than necessary then looking to spend more draft assets to move those role players in 2023 offseason to chase someone else that will end up not coming.

[3toheadmelo]

Yo I’m laughing so hard

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[Knicksfan1992]

We really could’ve landed

Jaden Hardy
Jalen Williams
Ousmane Dieng
Jalen Duren
Dalen Terry
AJ Griffin (yea his knees might be shot but better than getting absolutely nothing)
Nikola Jovic
Malaki branham
TyTy
Blake Wesley


Knicks looked at that pool of players and said… no thanks!

Yo I said this to myself last night. This year will be the LONGEST year of....


The Knicks could have had....

Thats a ridiculous list to pass on considering alot of them more than likley will turn out to better than Jalen.

LOL this is actually an absurd take. Tell me you didn't watch Brunson without telling me you didn't watch Brunson...

I'm sure most of those guys will be the clear 2nd option on a conference finals team and score 16 points a game with 5 assists on an above average TS

[F N 11]

"This person doesn't agree with me so they must be drinking kool-aid"

when the same guy was justifying that its ok to operate as an over the cap team last because all our contracts were moveable and market value...sorry if I don't by the justifying every move the knicks make approach.

No I get the vitriol for the trade because of the optics and yeah Cohen has been banging that drum for a while. I'm just busting your balls a little because the hivemind in here is strong with this FO and trade lol

I don't see the big deal in saying we moved on from Kemba, which was a bad situation, and netted 2 more protected 1sts out of it even if they may never be as good as the 11 pick in a given year.

I keep coming back to the point where I think of it as if someone offered us let's say 18, 23, and 29 for 11 in this draft and also took Kemba would I have taken it? I think it's a 100% yes for me at this point. Knicks just put it out further...

It's a move that admittedly depends on what else they do after it... If they don't have to attach any of the 1sts that they got to move the salary needed to acquire Brunson then i'm in support of the move.

Like everybody didn’t call the “we like what we have” excuse lol.

[Polk377]

I need to see Burks Noel and Fournier traded today followed by reports of the exact target with the newly acquired cap space gained (hopefully not Jalen Brunson cause all this maneuvering just for him would be wild to me) to feel any better about what went down last night.

CAA nepotism hiring friends and relatives lmao. The 1 CAA guy we wanted they couldn’t get lol.

I’m hoping the back channels WWW was supposedly working for Beal a little while back got thru and that’s the actual target

I believe Beal is still target #1 when it comes to free agents like he has been for the last couple of years. I can see a scenario where they clear enough money for him and then swing a trade with some assets to get Brogdon from Indy too. Knicks starters in 22-23 Brogdon-Beal-Barrett-Randle-Robinson Bench IQ-Grimes-Reddish-Toppin-Sims. It will take a hell of a lot of picks and maneuvering but it can get done.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Still don’t even think we get Brunson. Really doesn’t even make sense. We probably will make a run at Beal or just settle for Brogdon.

even if we get brunson (and I like him). What does Brunson/RJ/Randle get you? Make the playoffs? Potentially then where from there?

We are now sitting in NBA purgatory. Wont draft high enough (potentially in a loaded class). Not a championship contender.

They really think the fan base is excited to try for the play in game???

Yea, it gets us nowhere. Then we will be capped out for the next 4 years. It really is horrendous. I like Brunson too, but have to look at the bigger picture.

[DaGawd]

Directionless mother fkers

[F N 11]

Could the Knicks be holding us back as people? We all seem like decent people. We should not be wasting our time with this nonsense.

[moocow007]

Next years draft looks great. Can’t wait to see how we F that one up

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"With the 5th pick in the 2023 NBA draft, the New York Knicks select: Emoni Bates"

5 minutes later:

"We have a trade to announce. The New York Knicks have traded Emoni Bates for a future 1st round pick"

5 minutes later:

"The New York Knicks will be sending the draft rights to Emoni Bates along with Evan Fournier for a top 20 protected 2024 first round pick"

Some chucklef*cks on this board: "Aw yes, this is awesome. This draft sucks, I can't believe we got a first for trading Fournier's expiring contract!"

Pretty much. PS: Can I borrow your avatar gif? Seems appropriate.

[Polk377]

Could the Knicks be holding us back as people? We all seem like decent people. We should not be wasting our time with this nonsense.

The decency has all but left this fanbase.

[KnixinSix]

I keep getting the sense this is not a Brunson only move this is going to be more than Brunson if it's only Brunson then yes it was a bad plan but if the plan is Bronson plus a star I can see this making a lot more sense from a strategic approach. The 2020 team with Murray and Brunson instead of Peyton/Rose is probably a much better team. That may be the way they are thinking.

[mpharris36]

"This person doesn't agree with me so they must be drinking kool-aid"

when the same guy was justifying that its ok to operate as an over the cap team last because all our contracts were moveable and market value...sorry if I don't by the justifying every move the knicks make approach.

No I get the vitriol for the trade because of the optics and yeah Cohen has been banging that drum for a while. I'm just busting your balls a little because the hivemind in here is strong with this FO and trade lol

I don't see the big deal in saying we moved on from Kemba, which was a bad situation, and netted 2 more protected 1sts out of it even if they may never be as good as the 11 pick in a given year.

I keep coming back to the point where I think of it as if someone offered us let's say 18, 23, and 29 for 11 in this draft and also took Kemba would I have taken it? I think it's a 100% yes for me at this point. Knicks just put it out further...

It's a move that admittedly depends on what else they do after it... If they don't have to attach any of the 1sts that they got to move the salary needed to acquire Brunson then i'm in support of the move.

Lets just say the end game is brunson though. Sure we are better no doubt. He is a good player. But Brunson and Randle are now your two highest paid players. You will then need to extend RJ. He is a good player too I don't think he is a top player on a good team.

So now you will be stuck with 3 players making a lot of money and no number 1 option.

They also will be making themselves good enough to never draft high enough to get a difference maker. They traded out of 11 is fine in theory. But why are we picking 11th?

Why are we playing Burks so much he needs to get offseason foot surgery??? where is the direction. Are we satisfied if the direction is to improve to be a playin/playoff team? Where from there though?

These are legit questions when you have all those teams picking in the top 5 that now are jumping us in terms of young cores.

DET - Cade/Ivey/Duran
ORL - Suggs/Franz/Paolo
HOU - Green/Smith/Sengun
OKC - Giddey/SGA/Chet
NOP Zion/Ingram/Jones/CJ

these are all teams a few years ago when Leon and Co took over that you could say were in similar situations as us. Can you honestly say the knicks are in a better position than any of the above teams going forward?

[Deeeez Knicks]

Next years draft looks great. Can’t wait to see how we F that one up

Read on Twitter

?s=21&t=Rllxo05DIEw_RXDy2O5e1g

"With the 5th pick in the 2023 NBA draft, the New York Knicks select: Emoni Bates"

5 minutes later:

"We have a trade to announce. The New York Knicks have traded Emoni Bates for a future 1st round pick"

5 minutes later:

"The New York Knicks will be sending the draft rights to Emoni Bates along with Evan Fournier for a top 20 protected 2024 first round pick"

Some chucklef*cks on this board: "Aw yes, this is awesome. This draft sucks, I can't believe we got a first for trading Fournier's expiring contract!"

There will probably be 12 2nd round picks flipped around in the deal and another 3 1st round picks swapped between teams with 8 pages of protections and it will be broken into 15 separate deals just to confuse everyone while Adam Silver will have to announce it every other pick

[G_K_F]

when the same guy was justifying that its ok to operate as an over the cap team last because all our contracts were moveable and market value...sorry if I don't by the justifying every move the knicks make approach.

No I get the vitriol for the trade because of the optics and yeah Cohen has been banging that drum for a while. I'm just busting your balls a little because the hivemind in here is strong with this FO and trade lol

I don't see the big deal in saying we moved on from Kemba, which was a bad situation, and netted 2 more protected 1sts out of it even if they may never be as good as the 11 pick in a given year.

I keep coming back to the point where I think of it as if someone offered us let's say 18, 23, and 29 for 11 in this draft and also took Kemba would I have taken it? I think it's a 100% yes for me at this point. Knicks just put it out further...

It's a move that admittedly depends on what else they do after it... If they don't have to attach any of the 1sts that they got to move the salary needed to acquire Brunson then i'm in support of the move.

Lets just say the end game is brunson though. Sure we are better no doubt. He is a good player. But Brunson and Randle are now your two highest paid players. You will then need to extend RJ. He is a good player too I don't think he is a top player on a good team.

So now you will be stuck with 3 players making a lot of money and no number 1 option.

They also will be making themselves good enough to never draft high enough to get a difference maker. They traded out of 11 is fine in theory. But why are we picking 11th?

Why are we playing Burks so much he needs to get offseason foot surgery??? where is the direction. Are we satisfied if the direction is to improve to be a playin/playoff team? Where from there though?

These are legit questions when you have all those teams picking in the top 5 that now are jumping us in terms of young cores.

DET - Cade/Ivey/Duran
ORL - Suggs/Franz/Paolo
HOU - Green/Smith/Sengun
OKC - Giddey/SGA/Chet
NOP Zion/Ingram/Jones/CJ

these are all teams a few years ago when Leon and Co took over that you could say were in similar situations as us. Can you honestly say the knicks are in a better position than any of the above teams going forward?

I respect that you are trying to discuss this with people but some people will see positives even if something is 100% negative. Call it blind faith or eternal optimism or just being hoodwinked. Whatever the term, there’s some who will rationalize something that doesn’t need to be or deserve to be rationalized.

[mpharris36]

Still don’t even think we get Brunson. Really doesn’t even make sense. We probably will make a run at Beal or just settle for Brogdon.

even if we get brunson (and I like him). What does Brunson/RJ/Randle get you? Make the playoffs? Potentially then where from there?

We are now sitting in NBA purgatory. Wont draft high enough (potentially in a loaded class). Not a championship contender.

They really think the fan base is excited to try for the play in game???

Yea, it gets us nowhere. Then we will be capped out for the next 4 years. It really is horrendous. I like Brunson too, but have to look at the bigger picture.

the perfect example would anyone take Brunson at 25 MM over a rookie scale contract Ivey?

My point is they need to invest in the draft. Us overpaying for good FA's is not a plan of success....they are waiting for this star to ask out and force his way to the knicks but as we wait for that never to happen our assets just depreciate in value and we keep kicking the can down the road for this heavily conditioned 1st rounders that may never convey.

Look at the position we would be in if we just invested in the youth and drafted high the last two years. We could have a couple young pieces along with RJ and maybe we would have something by now. Instead we are stuck with a coach that refuses to invest in young players and overpaid vets blocking them picking up enough wins to put us in NBA purgatory.

[F N 11]

Leon Rose say there and said we going young to Mike Breen reading it off a teleprompter.

We building around

Randle
Fournier
Brunson

Thibs is the worst thing to happen to this fuqing franchise. Old POS calling all the shots. He could care less about player development and it showed with How he treated RJ, Grimes, and McBride before Covid. He didn’t know RJ needed the ball and thought McBride and Grimes wasn’t going to bring anything.

**** Thibs

[DOT]

Next years draft looks great. Can’t wait to see how we F that one up

Read on Twitter

?s=21&t=Rllxo05DIEw_RXDy2O5e1g

"With the 5th pick in the 2023 NBA draft, the New York Knicks select: Emoni Bates"

5 minutes later:

"We have a trade to announce. The New York Knicks have traded Emoni Bates for a future 1st round pick"

5 minutes later:

"The New York Knicks will be sending the draft rights to Emoni Bates along with Evan Fournier for a top 20 protected 2024 first round pick"

Some chucklef*cks on this board: "Aw yes, this is awesome. This draft sucks, I can't believe we got a first for trading Fournier's expiring contract!"

Pretty much. PS: Can I borrow your avatar gif? Seems appropriate.

[ADeP7]

Landing Brunson was always the plan but there needs to be another domino with it.
So you run back the same squad as last year but add Brunson and subtract kemba. Makes no sense. And I like Brunson

If you go for Brunson they need to follow it up trying to trade for someone else on the market.

Either way I hate this fuggin team. Fuq Dolan fuq rose fuq www fuq thibs