PG: Knicks vs ATL

[3toheadmelo]

I wonder if the Heat fans look back on March/April 2024 with this much reverence, they were net #1 for that month.






You don't build teams based around 1 month.

The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.

How are you running anything back without IHART? Randle playing Center?? No thank you

Precious at the 5 or trade for a C like Nick Richards/Rob Williams. iHart is replaceable. Just my humble opinion, Thibs brought out the best out of Randle and Donte and they really fit well next to OG and Brunson. Those guys are Thibs guys. This new team is an Anti Thibs roster, it'll never work under him. We had something good brewing.

[LFGK]

They need Mitch back

Brunson
McBride
OG
KAT
Mitch

Bridges
Hart
Achiuwa
Payne


This fixes a lot of problems we have defensively and there is still enough offense in the starting 5 and bench becomes stronger where we only get 5-10 points from it currently, annoying as hell rite now but they will be fine by game 40

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This new team is an Anti Thibs roster, it'll never work under him.

I have a solution for that

[The KnicksFix]

We lost the bruisers that made us, US
OG, precious, Ihart, divo Brunson was a hell of a rebounding, bruising team
What we have now is a charmin soft team

[LFGK]

We lost the bruisers that made us, US
OG, precious, Ihart, divo Brunson was a hell of a rebounding, bruising team
What we have now is a charming soft team

Only 2 of the guys u named are gone, Mitch will add a new dime soon to the Knicks defense

[HerSports85]

Have our recent trades upgraded our talent level, of course. But we didn't replace a critical piece - a playmaking, rim protecting, rebounding machine center. The problem definitely isn't the Towns/Randle trade. Towns is clearly the better player. The Mikal trade was somewhat of an issue because of all the picks we gave up. BUT regardless, rather we did those trades or not, we still lost a huge piece and didn't add a player that can give us the level of production Ihart did. That's the issue, it's not complicated.

[The KnicksFix]

They need Mitch back

Brunson
McBride
OG
KAT
Mitch

Bridges
Hart
Achiuwa
Payne


This fixes a lot of problems we have defensively and there is still enough offense in the starting 5 and bench becomes stronger where we only get 5-10 points from it currently, annoying as hell rite now but they will be fine by game 40

YES YES YES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING, START DEUCE START MITCH OR PRECIOUS
SEND MIKAL AND HART TO THE BENCH

WHATS SO DAMN HARD.
IF YOU AND I CAN REACH THIS CONCLUSION, WHY CANT THE COACHING STAFF

[3toheadmelo]

This new team is an Anti Thibs roster, it'll never work under him.

I have a solution for that

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

[3toheadmelo]

Have our recent trades upgraded our talent level, of course. But we didn't replace a critical piece - a playmaking, rim protecting, rebounding machine center. The problem definitely isn't the Towns/Randle trade. Towns is clearly the better player. The Mikal trade was somewhat of an issue because of all the picks we gave up. BUT regardless, rather we did those trades or not, we still lost a huge piece and didn't add a player that can give us the level of production Ihart did. That's the issue, it's not complicated.

I still disagree with that. Towns is the better talent but Randle was the guy who drawed up all that gravity to generate offense for us when we had nothing going for us. It's no secret Brunson has looked worse without him. Oh well.

[The KnicksFix]

We lost the bruisers that made us, US
OG, precious, Ihart, divo Brunson was a hell of a rebounding, bruising team
What we have now is a charming soft team

Only 2 of the guys u named are gone, Mitch will add a new dime soon to the Knicks defense

For now, we need to start precious and deuce
This will fix problems defensively
Mikal and hart can kill it off the bench. It’s simple

[HerSports85]

Have our recent trades upgraded our talent level, of course. But we didn't replace a critical piece - a playmaking, rim protecting, rebounding machine center. The problem definitely isn't the Towns/Randle trade. Towns is clearly the better player. The Mikal trade was somewhat of an issue because of all the picks we gave up. BUT regardless, rather we did those trades or not, we still lost a huge piece and didn't add a player that can give us the level of production Ihart did. That's the issue, it's not complicated.

I still disagree with that. Towns is the better talent but Randle was the guy who drawed up all that gravity to generate offense for us when we had nothing going for us. It's no secret Brunson has looked worse without him. Oh well.

We lost Randle in January last year and didn't have him in the playoffs and Brunson looked like a superstar. That's a pretty large sample size. You know who we did have though??? IHart.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This new team is an Anti Thibs roster, it'll never work under him.

I have a solution for that

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

Who knew Mazzulla would be as good as he is? There's somebody on an NBA bench right now that everyone wants as their next coach.

[The KnicksFix]

Have our recent trades upgraded our talent level, of course. But we didn't replace a critical piece - a playmaking, rim protecting, rebounding machine center. The problem definitely isn't the Towns/Randle trade. Towns is clearly the better player. The Mikal trade was somewhat of an issue because of all the picks we gave up. BUT regardless, rather we did those trades or not, we still lost a huge piece and didn't add a player that can give us the level of production Ihart did. That's the issue, it's not complicated.

I still disagree with that. Towns is the better talent but Randle was the guy who drawed up all that gravity to generate offense for us when we had nothing going for us. It's no secret Brunson has looked worse without him. Oh well.

In order to win, you work with the pieces you have, in order to win with KAT, you must start precious next to him right now. Then bring deuce in along with precious and shift Mikal and hart to the bench.

[3toheadmelo]

Have our recent trades upgraded our talent level, of course. But we didn't replace a critical piece - a playmaking, rim protecting, rebounding machine center. The problem definitely isn't the Towns/Randle trade. Towns is clearly the better player. The Mikal trade was somewhat of an issue because of all the picks we gave up. BUT regardless, rather we did those trades or not, we still lost a huge piece and didn't add a player that can give us the level of production Ihart did. That's the issue, it's not complicated.

I still disagree with that. Towns is the better talent but Randle was the guy who drawed up all that gravity to generate offense for us when we had nothing going for us. It's no secret Brunson has looked worse without him. Oh well.

We lost Randle in January last year and didn't have him in the playoffs and Brunson looked like a superstar. That's a pretty large sample size. You know who we did have though??? IHart.

Brunson's efficiency was below average in the playoffs. 53 TS%. He was playing hero ball. Go look at how efficient he is next to Randle (those numbers sky rocket) and our team record with Randle last year versus without him. IHart's defense was actually pretty awful in the playoffs too. He started to look like the old iShart as sham would say. Anyways this is beating a dead horse. We're never gonna agree on this it is what it is.

[HerSports85]

Brunson problem isn't that he's getting double teamed, because he's really not. Teams figured out that you can put a bigger wing on him and it will bother him. Our coach haven't adjusted, that's the problem. But other than that, Brunson doesn't look like he has the same burst and missing easy open shots, along with freethrows as of late. He's also not moving the ball fast enough and trying to do the same moves on these bigger defenders, I'm not even going to talk about how players are not falling for his pump fakes. He has to be smarter. period.

[3toheadmelo]

I have a solution for that

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

Who knew Mazzulla would be as good as he is? There's somebody on an NBA bench right now that everyone wants as their next coach.

Good point, but with the Knicks luck it would never work out. We tried that with Derek Fisher

[robillionaire]

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

Who knew Mazzulla would be as good as he is? There's somebody on an NBA bench right now that everyone wants as their next coach.

Good point, but with the Knicks luck it would never work out. We tried that with Derek Fisher

It will be Rick Brunson he’s probably already been promised the job and he knocked off johnnie Bryant.

[The KnicksFix]

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

Who knew Mazzulla would be as good as he is? There's somebody on an NBA bench right now that everyone wants as their next coach.

Good point, but with the Knicks luck it would never work out. We tried that with Derek Fisher

Johnnie Bryant
He knows our squad, he knows how we play, he probably served a more important role than we thought last year.

[8516knicks]

Odd boxscore. If you look just at the starters, you'd figure the Knicks won. All 5 of our guys were in double figures and the only one who shot poorly was OG. For the Hawks, the only real scorer starters were Young and JoHnson and they were 8-22 and 8-20. Diff was Deandre Hunter chipping in 24 off the bench. And they out-rebounded us. That's really one of the big differences this year - last year we almost always crushed teams on rebounding.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Even if we do fire Thibs, who are we replacing him with? There's no good veteran coach out there. Mike Bud and Kenny aint options anymore.

Who knew Mazzulla would be as good as he is? There's somebody on an NBA bench right now that everyone wants as their next coach.

Good point, but with the Knicks luck it would never work out. We tried that with Derek Fisher

We had Johnnie Bryant, he should have been promoted. We still have Dice, but he's a Thibs disciple so who knows. But there has to be a coach that is more willing to try different things and adjust based on who we're playing.