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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#221 » by KnixinSix » Wed May 14, 2025 6:45 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:The Kings reportedly want to trade DeRozan, but I doubt we can get involved. He’s making 23 million, I think.

If we can get Divo back, it’s all good though. Else I’m still team Sexton.


DDV's playing so poorly for the Wolves, that they'd probably take back Deuce and Precious for him.


Thats the hope but I dont know if we can resign precious to use him as a trade chip
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Post#222 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 14, 2025 7:12 pm

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CBA is so darn complicated but I know KATs salary matches up really well for a Giannis trade. If Giannis wants NY maybe it could happen. DDV is languishing out there in Minny. Figure out a way to get him back and he replaces what we lost with the 3 ball with KAT. But most importantly get a good modern NBA coach to coach this team.


The CBA is actually pretty simple.

1) you get capped at the 1st apron if you acquire a player via sign and trade or take back more money than you send out via trade. Plus: using more than the MLE, getting a buyout player whose previous salary was higher than the MLE, using the Biannual Exception or using a TPE generated in the previous season.

2) once your past the first apron you must send out more money than you take back in a trade. Aggregating contracts in a trade triggers a 2nd apron hard cap. Plus: Using the TMLE or using the salary generated by sending a player via sign and trade to take salary

3) the third apron is designed to be so punitive that it discourages teams from being there. There is a 2nd set of penalties after being in the 2nd apron 2 times over a 5 year period. Staying 2 times in a 5 year period, freezes the FRP; staying 3 times in a 5 year period, that pick will be moved to the 30th

Essentially, this is as close to a hard cap system as possible without being a hard cap. Which is why this knicks team essentially is working with a 2nd apron hard cap this year, followed by 2 years in the apron, followed by a potential mess after the 2028 season.


Yes - it's pretty simple. Going above the 1st apron makes it more challenging to make moves. Going above the 2nd apron makes it near impossible to make moves. And it's punitive to stay above the 2nd more than 2 times out of 5 years.

From the Knicks perspective, they are set to stay below the 2nd apron next year before a Bridges extension kicks in and likely will have room to use the tax MLE. They will be a 2nd apron team the following 2 seasons. Then will have to restructure the roster to drop below the 2nd apron in the summer of 2028.
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Post#223 » by sol537 » Wed May 14, 2025 7:27 pm

2026: Add Tax MLE player
2027: Extend Mikal and Mitch (over 2nd apron)
2028: Extend Deuce (over 2nd apron)
2029: Get back under the 2nd apron by shedding salary for a reload in 2030
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Post#224 » by 8516knicks » Thu May 15, 2025 5:50 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:The Kings reportedly want to trade DeRozan, but I doubt we can get involved. He’s making 23 million, I think.

If we can get Divo back, it’s all good though. Else I’m still team Sexton.


DDV's playing so poorly for the Wolves, that they'd probably take back Deuce and Precious for him.


Poorly? His numbers seem fine. Or are u only talking post-season so far? :dontknow:
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Post#225 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri May 16, 2025 3:57 pm

After that last game, let's get Luke "Bill Russell" Kornet on this team next year
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Post#226 » by RHODEY » Fri May 16, 2025 4:03 pm

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Post#227 » by sol537 » Fri May 16, 2025 5:04 pm

Giannis + Portis for KAT + Bridges + future 1st.

Mitch to LAL for Rui.

Deuce + Precious to MIN for DDV.

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Post#228 » by KnickFan33 » Sat May 17, 2025 3:06 am

Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?
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Post#229 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat May 17, 2025 3:53 am

KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.
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Post#230 » by spree2kawhi » Sat May 17, 2025 5:52 am

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KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.

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Post#231 » by Jeffrey » Sat May 17, 2025 5:30 pm

KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?


Vet minimum or 1 year MLE? This isn't a CBA where you want to go over for a 36 year old who is not a star player.

How about a guy like Luke Kornet. Who should definitely get more than Vet minimum
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Post#232 » by KnickFan33 » Sat May 17, 2025 5:41 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Not looking for him to play a huge role. Just need someone to provide Robinson some rest and a different look offensively. And a solid placeholder in case Mitch catches the injury bug again.

Finding a young center that can spread the floor and block a shot or two for cheap isn’t very likely, imo.
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Post#233 » by KnickFan33 » Sat May 17, 2025 6:34 pm

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KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?


Vet minimum or 1 year MLE? This isn't a CBA where you want to go over for a 36 year old who is not a star player.

How about a guy like Luke Kornet. Who should definitely get more than Vet minimum



Don’t really know much about the cba, tbh. Are you saying kornet could be signed for cheaper? I just feel we need more depth at C.
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Post#234 » by thebuzzardman » Sat May 17, 2025 6:41 pm

KnickFan33 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Not looking for him to play a huge role. Just need someone to provide Robinson some rest and a different look offensively. And a solid placeholder in case Mitch catches the injury bug again.

Finding a young center that can spread the floor and block a shot or two for cheap isn’t very likely, imo.


Can Yabasule kind of split the difference between Precious and Brook?
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Post#235 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 17, 2025 6:47 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Yeah I love Brook but we can't afford to use the MLE on him.
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Post#236 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat May 17, 2025 6:48 pm

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KnickFan33 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Not looking for him to play a huge role. Just need someone to provide Robinson some rest and a different look offensively. And a solid placeholder in case Mitch catches the injury bug again.

Finding a young center that can spread the floor and block a shot or two for cheap isn’t very likely, imo.


Can Yabasule kind of split the difference between Precious and Brook?



Spurs are supposedly targeting him or Naz Reid.
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Post#237 » by KnickFan33 » Sat May 17, 2025 7:49 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Yeah I love Brook but we can't afford to use the MLE on him.


Genuinely curious. Who are legitimate MLE targets?
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Post#238 » by Jeffrey » Sat May 17, 2025 8:22 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnickFan33 wrote:Being 36, what kind of contract do you suppose Brook Lopez is going to get this offseason?



Tax payer MLE, he looked really bad in that Pacers series though.


Yeah I love Brook but we can't afford to use the MLE on him.


For our MLE, we really need another scorer off the bench. We were dead last and gonna have to consult with Thibs to say, "are you going to play this guy".
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Post#239 » by Meat » Sat May 17, 2025 10:14 pm

bring on Bitadze
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Post#240 » by KnickFan33 » Sat May 17, 2025 10:43 pm

Jeffrey wrote:For our MLE, we really need another scorer off the bench. We were dead last and gonna have to consult with Thibs to say, "are you going to play this guy".


Sure… but who might be available at that number?

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