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Post#221 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:09 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lonzo to Cleveland. If he's healthy that's a nice pickup

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Post#222 » by WargamesX » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:14 pm

That is a nice pickup for the Cavs. It could let them finally move Garland and/or not take a step back if Ty leaves in Free Agency. Cause I really think Detroit is going to give Ty Jerome an offer.
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Post#223 » by eagle54 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:56 pm

useless trade, an injury player vs a mid player.
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Post#224 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:03 pm

How did you Villanova fans fail to mention they had a Randle clone??? wtf!
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Post#225 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:05 pm

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And then these Utah fans have the nerve to wonder why they have the reputation they do.


i mean, if that's actually him... weird faded video.

End of the day agent's job is to rep YOU. Not sure if this is the agents advice or if this is the agent supporting the player.

Just to flip this: If the Knicks drafted a top pick, a top 3 talent in the draft class with super-star upside and they refused to report/sign, we would be burning effigy's. We would make custom jerseys with their name on it just to burn them on social media.


Absolutely, but I'd hope we'd be posting actual reasons that the guy was terrible instead of a basic IG clip showing him lightly flossing a few pieces while listening to Jay-Z in his car.

I mean, I'm pretty sure this guy sucks, as I've read some bad isht about his past, but for the Jazz fan summation and presentation of those problems to simply be, "Look at this black man silently wearing gaudy jewelry and listening to rap music, he's obviously terrible" is pretty telling.

Like, just post the actual problems. Post his rap sheet. Post a quote from prosecutors. Instead they told on them selves at high volume. :lol:


I mean, I know for people who are inclined, they can read the race issue into whatever they like. If it helps you to see from my lens picture the face below instead of his:
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Whenever I see deep eye circles, this man is always my first thought, his lack of sleep lives rent free in my head :lol: :lol:


Alas, to your other arguments: point taken. Don't know much about his other dealings, so that's news to me.

I will say it's clever for the Jazz to attack the agent and not the kid because if you get the fans against the player, he can't come back. The agent... no one will remember his face/name in about 5 minutes.
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Post#226 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:07 pm

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
i mean, if that's actually him... weird faded video.

End of the day agent's job is to rep YOU. Not sure if this is the agents advice or if this is the agent supporting the player.

Just to flip this: If the Knicks drafted a top pick, a top 3 talent in the draft class with super-star upside and they refused to report/sign, we would be burning effigy's. We would make custom jerseys with their name on it just to burn them on social media.


Absolutely, but I'd hope we'd be posting actual reasons that the guy was terrible instead of a basic IG clip showing him lightly flossing a few pieces while listening to Jay-Z in his car.

I mean, I'm pretty sure this guy sucks, as I've read some bad isht about his past, but for the Jazz fan summation and presentation of those problems to simply be, "Look at this black man silently wearing gaudy jewelry and listening to rap music, he's obviously terrible" is pretty telling.

Like, just post the actual problems. Post his rap sheet. Post a quote from prosecutors. Instead they told on them selves at high volume. :lol:



Im not about to excuse jazz fans but this video is hilarious when we already "know" all the problems with Ace and his agent.

Sidenote, its insane that Danny boy drafted this guy with the 5th pick. I wouldn't care how talented to much risk to take him at 5.


Honestly, I would have had to think about trading that #5 for the package the Hawks got for #13. Like I would have probably wanted one more asset, but it would have been close...
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Post#227 » by Riot Randolph » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:23 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/phoenix-suns/news/suns-devin-booker-record-breaking-150-million-contract-update/11980264441f9cf12821d687

I find this absolutely baffling. I mean at 75mill. per year you are committing such a big portion of your cap to a player that is good but ultimately not a superstar, which cripples your entire cap. Even for a superstar you would be essentially destroying your ability to build a team around him, but Booker?

On top of that, at 75mill. you essentially shot any trade value that he has. I mean no team is going to be interested to add Booker at 75mill. He is probably not worth more than 50mill., if at all. So you can neither build a very successful team nor can you pivot and trade him easily. That's crazy.

Anyone can see that the right move would be to trade Booker for picks and young talent and rebuild at this point. There is a much much higher chance they would be good in the near future through a rebuild than through this construct with Booker. The Suns were mostly a team I used to like ever since their Nash-Stoudemire days so this development is sad for them. They are poised to be the Washington Wizards part two.

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Post#228 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:29 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Randle must be getting traded /leaving if they’re pay Naz that much money

Sounds like they are keeping Randle and letting NAW walk.
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Post#229 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:37 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
i mean, if that's actually him... weird faded video.

End of the day agent's job is to rep YOU. Not sure if this is the agents advice or if this is the agent supporting the player.

Just to flip this: If the Knicks drafted a top pick, a top 3 talent in the draft class with super-star upside and they refused to report/sign, we would be burning effigy's. We would make custom jerseys with their name on it just to burn them on social media.


Absolutely, but I'd hope we'd be posting actual reasons that the guy was terrible instead of a basic IG clip showing him lightly flossing a few pieces while listening to Jay-Z in his car.

I mean, I'm pretty sure this guy sucks, as I've read some bad isht about his past, but for the Jazz fan summation and presentation of those problems to simply be, "Look at this black man silently wearing gaudy jewelry and listening to rap music, he's obviously terrible" is pretty telling.

Like, just post the actual problems. Post his rap sheet. Post a quote from prosecutors. Instead they told on them selves at high volume. :lol:


I mean, I know for people who are inclined, they can read the race issue into whatever they like. If it helps you to see from my lens picture the face below instead of his:
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Whenever I see deep eye circles, this man is always my first thought, his lack of sleep lives rent free in my head :lol: :lol:


Alas, to your other arguments: point taken. Don't know much about his other dealings, so that's news to me.

I will say it's clever for the Jazz to attack the agent and not the kid because if you get the fans against the player, he can't come back. The agent... no one will remember his face/name in about 5 minutes.


it doesn't. ever.
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Post#230 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:42 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lonzo to Cleveland. If he's healthy that's a nice pickup

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It means Darius Garland is getting traded because at some point they have to accept that having 2 small guards in the backcourt is too easy to exploit.


makes sense. but he also could be seen as a bench guard who can keep things going. especially given his health history.

mind you, i do think they will trade garland. just saying. it probably works if they don't too.
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Post#231 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:02 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Damn, that's a good fit if he can stay somewhat healthy. It gives them the on/off ball big playmaker that lets Donovan handle the ball more.


I would have loved to have him here if healthy. Lonzo was solid
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Post#232 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:14 pm

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Ok mdb, you were right and I was wrong. He definitely needs a new agent unless he plans on doing nefarious dealings then he has the right man
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From what I heard this guy is kinda shady and has no business being an agent.

I'm not trying to trash the Jazz, but I wouldn't want to play out there either. Turning down a workout with Philly was asinine, he cost himself money and he got sent to basically NBA Siberia where no one will see him play nationally.
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Post#233 » by RHODEY » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:20 pm

eagle54 wrote:useless trade, an injury player vs a mid player.

Yeah the idea of Ball is great, the reality...not so great.
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Post#234 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:20 pm

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The KnicksFix wrote:Aside from getting Kawhi to the raps for a ring, masai didn’t do much in Toronto. His only other mark on his resume was fleecing the Knicks for Melo.


that's wild. championship team: og, siakam, norman powell, fred vanvleet (UDFA) all out of the draft process. personally challenged lowry to be an all-nba player from journeyman. fleeced orlando for serge. built that group into a contender. then gets marc gasol to play point center the same year as the kawhi for derozan deal.

nah, man put in work. maybe it was time. but he was big in his role. this change is an event.


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Post#235 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:21 pm

I think this is quite an interesting off-season in the East - so far. Lots of teams making small changes which might gel well. Boston holding a fire sale.
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Post#236 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:23 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
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And then these Utah fans have the nerve to wonder why they have the reputation they do.


i mean, if that's actually him... weird faded video.

End of the day agent's job is to rep YOU. Not sure if this is the agents advice or if this is the agent supporting the player.

Just to flip this: If the Knicks drafted a top pick, a top 3 talent in the draft class with super-star upside and they refused to report/sign, we would be burning effigy's. We would make custom jerseys with their name on it just to burn them on social media.


Absolutely, but I'd hope we'd be posting actual reasons that the guy was terrible instead of a basic IG clip showing him lightly flossing a few pieces while listening to Jay-Z in his car.

I mean, I'm pretty sure this guy sucks, as I've read some bad isht about his past, but for the Jazz fan summation and presentation of those problems to simply be, "Look at this black man silently wearing gaudy jewelry and listening to rap music, he's obviously terrible" is pretty telling.

Like, just post the actual problems. Post his rap sheet. Post a quote from prosecutors. Instead they told on them selves at high volume. :lol:


I agree with this. The dude looks like an idiot in that clip but that isn't a reason to attack him.

I think his advice to his client is absolutely terrible. That's where this starts and ends. Ace is a good player and not the first to try to steer where he ended up, but I would have not passed on any workouts. It also makes Ace look like a headache when that might not be the case.

We already know what kind of fanbase the Jazz has too. And Danny Ainge is a scumbag. That's another reason why I don't blame Ace for not wanting to play out there, but he's gotta suck it up now.
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Post#238 » by Galvationknicks » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:25 pm

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Post#239 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:10 pm

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Post#240 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:23 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:This is bad (for the bulls)

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damn. and the best return of that crop was the giddey for caruso part.
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