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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2221 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:08 pm

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2222 » by bballoctober » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:57 pm

Bklyn&company wrote:Some Info: NBA RPM/WAR
Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards

Khris Middleton is ranked #1 for DRPM and #2 for RPM and WAR out of all NBA Shooting Guards only James Harden beats him in both cats.

Danny Green is ranked #5 for DRPM and #4 for RPM and WAR out of all SG's.

Wesley Matthews is ranked #8 for WAR and #10 for DRPM and RPM out of all SG's.

FYI..Klay Thompson is ranked #4 for WAR, reason is because his ORPM is over 4.00, the same for Korver ranked at #3 (4.61).

Out of all NBA Players WAR, Middleton is ranked #11, DGreen is at #17 and WMatthews at #39.

Middleton, DGreen and Wesley Matthews are all definitely players we should be targeting for our SG/SF? Position (s). Hope Phil will reach out to them.

The only player who did well coming off a Achilles injury is Dominique Wilkins. Kobe only played 30% of possible games so far and Chauncey flamed out when he came back. I rather not think about Wes as an option at all.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2223 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:07 pm

bballoctober wrote:
Bklyn&company wrote:Some Info: NBA RPM/WAR
Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards

Khris Middleton is ranked #1 for DRPM and #2 for RPM and WAR out of all NBA Shooting Guards only James Harden beats him in both cats.

Danny Green is ranked #5 for DRPM and #4 for RPM and WAR out of all SG's.

Wesley Matthews is ranked #8 for WAR and #10 for DRPM and RPM out of all SG's.

FYI..Klay Thompson is ranked #4 for WAR, reason is because his ORPM is over 4.00, the same for Korver ranked at #3 (4.61).

Out of all NBA Players WAR, Middleton is ranked #11, DGreen is at #17 and WMatthews at #39.

Middleton, DGreen and Wesley Matthews are all definitely players we should be targeting for our SG/SF? Position (s). Hope Phil will reach out to them.

The only player who did well coming off a Achilles injury is Dominique Wilkins. Kobe only played 30% of possible games so far and Chauncey flamed out when he came back. I rather not think about Wes as an option at all.

Kobe and Billups were both older than Wilkins and Wes.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2224 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:46 pm



I mean if the knicks want to bring him back as the 15th man on the bench that is a good vet teammate and leader in the locker room fine.

But that man should never see the court next year if all goes well.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2225 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:30 pm

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I mean if the knicks want to bring him back as the 15th man on the bench that is a good vet teammate and leader in the locker room fine.

But that man should never see the court next year if all goes well.


i don't see him as geting significant minutes, but i could see why they want to keep him around. he will probably play spot minutes, which i'm fine with. i don't think anyone is OK with depending on him in the rotation. but he's the type who will always be ready. not every end-of-bench guy has that in him.

i also don't think he's as bad as being made out to be. this whole team is bad together. we're asking him to play big minutes and carry the load at present. he will be fine to hustle for us in spurts. lou amundson the same.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2226 » by crazybranman360 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:33 pm

The bring all of our guys home scenario

-Draft Towns (from new jersey, grew up a knicks fans)
-Sign Danny Green (from Long Island)
-Sign Jeremy Lin
-Trade for Gallo (hardaway +cap space)
-Trade Calderon for Lance Stevenson (from NYC)
-resign some guys we have on our roster

Langston Galloway/Jeremy Lin
Danny Green/Lance Stephenson/Alexey Shved
Danillo Gallinari/Cleanthony Early
Carmelo Anthony/Jason Smith/Quincy Acy/
Karl Anthony Towns/Lou Amundson
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2227 » by FrazierVocab » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:52 pm

crazybranman360 wrote:The bring all of our guys home scenario

-Draft Towns (from new jersey, grew up a knicks fans)
-Sign Danny Green (from Long Island)
-Sign Jeremy Lin
-Trade for Gallo (hardaway +cap space)
-Trade Calderon for Lance Stevenson (from NYC)
-resign some guys we have on our roster

Langston Galloway/Jeremy Lin
Danny Green/Lance Stephenson/Alexey Shved
Danillo Gallinari/Cleanthony Early
Carmelo Anthony/Jason Smith/Quincy Acy/
Karl Anthony Towns/Lou Amundson


Why exactly would Charlotte trade Stephenson for Calderon? Other than saving a little more than $2 million, how does this make them better?
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2228 » by sasso » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:00 pm

This is my 2015 free agent wishlist (projected $68M cap):

Melo SF/PF 22,875,000
Danny Green 9,350,000
Beverley 7,610,000
Draymond Green 15,600,000
Karl Towns 4,750,000
Kyle O'Quinn 3,550,000
Early 845,059
Galloway 845,059
Antetokuonmbo 525,093
Amundson 500,000
Cap Hold 500,000
Cap Hold 500,000
Cap Hold 500,000
Total Salaries 67,950,211

Alexey Shved 2,500,000 (Room Exception)

This could be the best defensive team in the NBA, but it requires some luck to package THJ and Calderon for a trade, draft Towns, and steal Draymond Green from the Warriors.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2229 » by Meat » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:34 pm

FrazierVocab wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:The bring all of our guys home scenario

-Draft Towns (from new jersey, grew up a knicks fans)
-Sign Danny Green (from Long Island)
-Sign Jeremy Lin
-Trade for Gallo (hardaway +cap space)
-Trade Calderon for Lance Stevenson (from NYC)
-resign some guys we have on our roster

Langston Galloway/Jeremy Lin
Danny Green/Lance Stephenson/Alexey Shved
Danillo Gallinari/Cleanthony Early
Carmelo Anthony/Jason Smith/Quincy Acy/
Karl Anthony Towns/Lou Amundson


Why exactly would Charlotte trade Stephenson for Calderon? Other than saving a little more than $2 million, how does this make them better?

because it saves them 2 mil
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2230 » by crazybranman360 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:25 pm

Meat wrote:
FrazierVocab wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:The bring all of our guys home scenario

-Draft Towns (from new jersey, grew up a knicks fans)
-Sign Danny Green (from Long Island)
-Sign Jeremy Lin
-Trade for Gallo (hardaway +cap space)
-Trade Calderon for Lance Stevenson (from NYC)
-resign some guys we have on our roster

Langston Galloway/Jeremy Lin
Danny Green/Lance Stephenson/Alexey Shved
Danillo Gallinari/Cleanthony Early
Carmelo Anthony/Jason Smith/Quincy Acy/
Karl Anthony Towns/Lou Amundson


Why exactly would Charlotte trade Stephenson for Calderon? Other than saving a little more than $2 million, how does this make them better?

because it saves them 2 mil


-saves them 2 mil
-they need shooting
-stephenson has been a disaster, is barely playing
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2231 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:43 pm


well Phil praise Lance too

hes fine with me as a roster fill guy but he'd better not be starting or be the first big off the bench or were screwed
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2232 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:55 am

NoLayupRule wrote:

well Phil praise Lance too

hes fine with me as a roster fill guy but he'd better not be starting or be the first big off the bench or were screwed


he won't be
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2233 » by mugzi » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:52 am

FrazierVocab wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:The bring all of our guys home scenario

-Draft Towns (from new jersey, grew up a knicks fans)
-Sign Danny Green (from Long Island)
-Sign Jeremy Lin
-Trade for Gallo (hardaway +cap space)
-Trade Calderon for Lance Stevenson (from NYC)
-resign some guys we have on our roster

Langston Galloway/Jeremy Lin
Danny Green/Lance Stephenson/Alexey Shved
Danillo Gallinari/Cleanthony Early
Carmelo Anthony/Jason Smith/Quincy Acy/
Karl Anthony Towns/Lou Amundson




Why exactly would Charlotte trade Stephenson for Calderon? Other than saving a little more than $2 million, how does this make them better?


I live in charlotte and they're dying to dump lance he's getting little playing time, frankly I don't want him
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2234 » by jermsknicks » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:45 am

He calls himself “Junkyard Dog.’’ He’s from Birmingham, Ala., but has no qualms about playing in New York, saying he knows coach Derek Fisher from working out with him in Woodland Hills, Calif., a few years ago.
According to a source, Fisher is high on Carroll, who had 16 points, four rebounds and three assists on Monday, and the defensive approach he brings to the court.
“Most definitely,’’ Carroll said when asked if the Knicks would be a high consideration.“When guys talk about playing in certain places — they talk about Madison Square Garden

http://nypost.com/2015/04/14/this-impending-free-agent-would-love-to-be-a-knick-next-year/

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2235 » by Johnny Hoops » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:17 pm

Bklyn&company wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:If we land Towns and we strike out on LMA, Gasol and Green then Monroe wouldn't be a bad call, assuming its not too high a contract

Jackson I don't think fits

Deng is ideal especially with the triangle and smaller ball being the new NBA
Danny Green impresses me and Id like to add him to the list along with Mathews and Affalo.

If we miss out on all those guys - Butler and Lenard too - then I think Milsap is the top priority


I'd rather over-pay for a younger player like Knight, Middleton, Jackson than bring in guys that already have 8-10 years of NBA mileage on their bodies.

Even Gasol scares me --- is he ever going to be better than this year? LA -- will he really fit with Melo?

Those are premium guys I get that and I'd be excited by those pick ups but based on Phils recent comments I think he's going to target younger free agents - whether it be by design or out of necessity.

In the Town Hall meeting Phil mentioned Vets and leadership... didn't really hear anything about "young" anything.... he even joked about getting our pick out of the nursery... maybe I missed something. Watched it twice. I think he would mix it up...


There was a part of Phil's comments where Hahn asked Phil what the new team would look like on the court. Phil referenced how Red Holzman was allowed to come in, take a collection of young players (outside of Debusherre) and teach them the right way to play. He mentioned that the development of a team can't be rushed but takes time and that you need to give young players enough time to develop an identity and a style of play.

I took those comments as Phil not wanting to chase older/short term fixes in FA but rather taking a young coach, a high draft pick and surrounding them with younger pieces so that the team can grow together and develop the identity Phil wants.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2236 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
Bklyn&company wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:
I'd rather over-pay for a younger player like Knight, Middleton, Jackson than bring in guys that already have 8-10 years of NBA mileage on their bodies.

Even Gasol scares me --- is he ever going to be better than this year? LA -- will he really fit with Melo?

Those are premium guys I get that and I'd be excited by those pick ups but based on Phils recent comments I think he's going to target younger free agents - whether it be by design or out of necessity.

In the Town Hall meeting Phil mentioned Vets and leadership... didn't really hear anything about "young" anything.... he even joked about getting our pick out of the nursery... maybe I missed something. Watched it twice. I think he would mix it up...


There was a part of Phil's comments where Hahn asked Phil what the new team would look like on the court. Phil referenced how Red Holzman was allowed to come in, take a collection of young players (outside of Debusherre) and teach them the right way to play. He mentioned that the development of a team can't be rushed but takes time and that you need to give young players enough time to develop an identity and a style of play.

I took those comments as Phil not wanting to chase older/short term fixes in FA but rather taking a young coach, a high draft pick and surrounding them with younger pieces so that the team can grow together and develop the identity Phil wants.
yes!

that was the part I remembered too, I had forgotten it was about his Knicks team

he sure seemed to come back to his squad a lot in fact

we should be so lucky to have a team like that boy

I wonder if Mudiay would be the Fraizer of that rebuild. Closest thing in this draft perhaps
Or Towns as Reed but they are just so different
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2237 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:54 pm

jermsknicks wrote:He calls himself “Junkyard Dog.’’ He’s from Birmingham, Ala., but has no qualms about playing in New York, saying he knows coach Derek Fisher from working out with him in Woodland Hills, Calif., a few years ago.
According to a source, Fisher is high on Carroll, who had 16 points, four rebounds and three assists on Monday, and the defensive approach he brings to the court.
“Most definitely,’’ Carroll said when asked if the Knicks would be a high consideration.“When guys talk about playing in certain places — they talk about Madison Square Garden

http://nypost.com/2015/04/14/this-impending-free-agent-would-love-to-be-a-knick-next-year/

I approve this article.

I like this kid

he'd be a solid starting sg for us
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2238 » by humbertomakris » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:35 pm

Hypothetical situation. you draft KAT or Okafor and sign monroe and somehow trade Calderon. Then an opportnity comes up where you could sign Boogie. could boogie and monroe play together ?? (assuming they can afford them and kings want KAT/OKafor)
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2239 » by melomax » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:27 am

Throw $10m at Asik
Throw $12 at Draymond Green
Draft Russell
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2240 » by JustCame » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:52 am

melomax wrote:Throw $10m at Asik
Throw $12 at Draymond Green
Draft Russell


Green's getting more and I'd rather chase Lopez than Asik, but that's a good idea. I hope we get a top 3 pick. We need it.

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