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Post#2281 » by matchman » Fri May 17, 2013 6:23 am

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We get a reprieve. If we pull this out some people should just go.


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Post#2282 » by TheGarden » Fri May 17, 2013 7:06 am

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rdogg1026 wrote:Melo missing 16 shots and having 0 assists is still a problem. But a win is a win.


melo playing on 1 shoulder is the problem


I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.
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Post#2283 » by fdr2012 » Fri May 17, 2013 7:17 am

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rdogg1026 wrote:Melo missing 16 shots and having 0 assists is still a problem. But a win is a win.


melo playing on 1 shoulder is the problem


How does that matter? It's not about blame.
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Post#2284 » by dainfamusgc » Fri May 17, 2013 8:09 am

just watch game on dvr how the fk was that not a foul on hibbert when tyson hurt his back that str8 up crap is bs dude fouls so much every game

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Post#2285 » by MKCATL » Fri May 17, 2013 11:48 am

dainfamusgc wrote:just watch game on dvr how the fk was that not a foul on hibbert when tyson hurt his back that str8 up crap is bs dude fouls so much every game

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Post#2286 » by moabu08 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:05 pm

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rdogg1026 wrote:Melo missing 16 shots and having 0 assists is still a problem. But a win is a win.


melo playing on 1 shoulder is the problem


I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.


Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.
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Post#2287 » by mpharris36 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:11 pm

12/28 is 43% that is good.

if we shoot 43% for the next 2 games we win each game by double digits.

some people just don't understand how basketball works. 12/28 against a team like the pacers is very good.
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Post#2288 » by StephNYKurry » Fri May 17, 2013 2:29 pm

moabu08 wrote:
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Pharmcat wrote:
melo playing on 1 shoulder is the problem


I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.


Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


JR Smith, coming into last nights game, was shooting 30% from the field since Game 4 against Boston

Iman Shumpert is 5 for his last 26 from the field and shooting 3 for 17 from 3 in the series.

Jason Kidd hasn't scored since 2002

Tyson Chandler isn't an offensive option.

When the guys around you aren't doing the job, it's on you to take and make difficult shots. It's an extraordinary burden that only a few are willing to accept. Lebron didn't understand it in Cleveland. It's something that always separated him and Kobe to me. It's a given that Lebron is a better player, but Kobe isn't scared to miss. Misses aren't the end of the world. When you are the best player, sometimes you have to fall on your sword. I have no problems with the way Melo is playing right now, because we need him to get some semblance of consistent offense.
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Post#2289 » by GONYK » Fri May 17, 2013 2:32 pm

moabu08 wrote:
TheGarden wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
melo playing on 1 shoulder is the problem


I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.


Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


How can you be mad at Melo for taking what the defense gives him?

He's not forcing shots and he's not running in to Mt. Hibbert 20 times a game.

Melo has been very unselfish this series.
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Post#2290 » by Lotsix » Fri May 17, 2013 2:36 pm

the knicks are winning game 6, panic will then set in for indi on another collapse
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Post#2291 » by moabu08 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:54 pm

GONYK wrote:
moabu08 wrote:
TheGarden wrote:I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.


Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


How can you be mad at Melo for taking what the defense gives him?

He's not forcing shots and he's not running in to Mt. Hibbert 20 times a game.

Melo has been very unselfish this series.


Im not mad at Melo doing what hes doing. Im not going to make excuses for him though. If his shoulder is bothering him then he needs to finds ways to be effective in other ways. Thats his job to win basketball games. All im saying is lets stop making excuses here. This whole team hasnt played peroid. And unfortunately alot of it has been due to a lack of effort imo.
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Post#2292 » by moabu08 » Fri May 17, 2013 2:57 pm

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moabu08 wrote:
TheGarden wrote:
I doubt guys will ever realize that it isn't Melo's job to make the shots for them, he passed the ball for 11 potential assists by my count and a couple dozen other times.


Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


JR Smith, coming into last nights game, was shooting 30% from the field since Game 4 against Boston

Iman Shumpert is 5 for his last 26 from the field and shooting 3 for 17 from 3 in the series.

Jason Kidd hasn't scored since 2002

Tyson Chandler isn't an offensive option.

When the guys around you aren't doing the job, it's on you to take and make difficult shots. It's an extraordinary burden that only a few are willing to accept. Lebron didn't understand it in Cleveland. It's something that always separated him and Kobe to me. It's a given that Lebron is a better player, but Kobe isn't scared to miss. Misses aren't the end of the world. When you are the best player, sometimes you have to fall on your sword. I have no problems with the way Melo is playing right now, because we need him to get some semblance of consistent offense.


Once again I did not say I had a problem with Melo shooting. i was specifically addressing pharm and thegarden for making excuses for melo. At a certain point lets just look at it like it is.
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Post#2293 » by StephNYKurry » Fri May 17, 2013 3:11 pm

moabu08 wrote:Once again I did not say I had a problem with Melo shooting. i was specifically addressing pharm and thegarden for making excuses for melo. At a certain point lets just look at it like it is.


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Post#2294 » by TheGarden » Fri May 17, 2013 3:55 pm

moabu08 wrote:Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


he's not bricking the jumpers though, they're going in and out, personally I dont want him "creating" for his teammates, he's not a damn point guard nor a shot creator. Of course I want him making the right pass and he has but last night he had to score and he took 26 shots that were not 3's and everything was damn near from the elbow down and he only took 2 FT's. So analyze the game not his FGA's

p.s. who's making excuses for him and IF anyone did why does it matter to you
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Post#2295 » by TheGarden » Fri May 17, 2013 3:57 pm

And I didn't say anything about his shoulder, I said its not his job to make the shots for the teammates he passes to but guys want him to be something he isn't.
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Post#2296 » by moabu08 » Fri May 17, 2013 4:02 pm

TheGarden wrote:
moabu08 wrote:Once again if melo's shoulder is hurting him to the point its effecting his jump shot then why is he still shooting jumpers? I dont feel bad for Melo. At this point he needs to have enough sense to judge whether or not hes hurting the team. If his shoulder is effecting him that much then do what BK said in his tweet drive and finish or dish and create for your teammates. Either way to me its a non issue lets not make any more excuses for melo.


he's not bricking the jumpers though, they're going in and out, personally I dont want him "creating" for his teammates, he's not a damn point guard nor a shot creator. Of course I want him making the right pass and he has but last night he had to score and he took 26 shots that were not 3's and everything was damn near from the elbow down and he only took 2 FT's. So analyze the game not his FGA's

p.s. who's making excuses for him and IF anyone did why does it matter to you


Personally I want him doing anything physically possible that will help his TEAM win; so if hes on the floor he should be doing anything and everything to do so. I dont care if his shoulder is bothering him find another way to contribute. If your suiting up to play it tells me your there to play so do everything you can make sure your team wins. I dont want Melo to win I want the Knicks to win. You more of a Melo fan then a Knick fan.

And you make excuses for him. Your the exact reason why knick fans are butt of all jokes. Minimal basketball IQ and completely delusional.
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Post#2297 » by H20FAN » Fri May 17, 2013 4:10 pm

Where is game thread for game 6
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