OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[AllanH20]

I know your vote didn't do this because you live in NY, but votes for Nader gave us President George W. Bush because of Florida. We really went through 8 years of horrible leadership and many died for his wars. They are still dying. Our economy tanked.

We don't have any perfect candidates. But helping to elect a bad one is frightening.

I understand your point. Hillary >>>> Trump, but at some point, we need to stop voting for the lesser of two evils. In most states, a vote for a 3rd party candidate will do nothing to effect the outcome of a general election, thanks to the electoral college. People shouldn't be made to feel wrong for voting for a candidate that represents their values. It needs to happen if a 3rd party is ever going to take off. I can't foresee the current GOP ever putting up a candidate that isn't dangerous to our future. I'm not going to vote for every Democrat patsy just because the GOP is 10x more dangerous. I don't see how progress will ever be made that way. Hopefully, people on the other side of the isle start voting 3rd (or 4th) party too.

I'll be voting for Jill Stein.

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

[CJackson]

I know your vote didn't do this because you live in NY, but votes for Nader gave us President George W. Bush because of Florida. We really went through 8 years of horrible leadership and many died for his wars. They are still dying. Our economy tanked.

We don't have any perfect candidates. But helping to elect a bad one is frightening.

Neither the democrats or republicans feel they need to get their sh*t together because of that very mindset. That's why they can offer up sh*tty candidates year in and out and know there's a 50% chance they will get elected.

It's not either or. If more people voted for the best candidate then Nader would have won. Stop thinking you MUST vote either democrat or republican. You don't. Vote for who YOU think is the best candidate REGARDLESS of their party affiliation.

But you do have to remember that it can be worse. Until there is a true choice, this great country still needs to be managed----and it is up to the moderates among us to make the necessary choices that keep us in a position to improve later. Even if that choice doesn't seem so great.

Yes, well said. It is not pleasant, but it is the adult thing to do.

[BallSacBounce]

When you're a Billionaire many times over it obviously demonstrates that you do.

Sorry, we need to see his taxes before we even accept that he is a billionaire. The way Trump routinely lies, we have every reason to doubt every representation he makes about his net worth.

Bill Gates is a billionaire. Bill Gates works hard every day to give away his money. Trump instead looks for ways to scam innocent people. And Trump's scams are not the scams of billionaires, they're the scams of low-rent millionaires.

A guy like Gates could buy and sell Trump dozens of times, and still have cash left over.

There isn't any legitimate reason to not think he is a billionaire.

[NY2TheBay]

I understand your point. Hillary >>>> Trump, but at some point, we need to stop voting for the lesser of two evils. In most states, a vote for a 3rd party candidate will do nothing to effect the outcome of a general election, thanks to the electoral college. People shouldn't be made to feel wrong for voting for a candidate that represents their values. It needs to happen if a 3rd party is ever going to take off. I can't foresee the current GOP ever putting up a candidate that isn't dangerous to our future. I'm not going to vote for every Democrat patsy just because the GOP is 10x more dangerous. I don't see how progress will ever be made that way. Hopefully, people on the other side of the isle start voting 3rd (or 4th) party too.

I'll be voting for Jill Stein.

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

People should do whatever they want, this is their right to vote.

[CharlesOakley]

I understand your point. Hillary >>>> Trump, but at some point, we need to stop voting for the lesser of two evils. In most states, a vote for a 3rd party candidate will do nothing to effect the outcome of a general election, thanks to the electoral college. People shouldn't be made to feel wrong for voting for a candidate that represents their values. It needs to happen if a 3rd party is ever going to take off. I can't foresee the current GOP ever putting up a candidate that isn't dangerous to our future. I'm not going to vote for every Democrat patsy just because the GOP is 10x more dangerous. I don't see how progress will ever be made that way. Hopefully, people on the other side of the isle start voting 3rd (or 4th) party too.

I'll be voting for Jill Stein.

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

Most people don't live in swing states. If your state is blue or especially red, voting 3rd party won't matter at all. http://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-election-battleground-states

Let's not forget that a lot of the blame for the viability of Trump rests at the feet of the DNC. They are planning to put forward the least popular candidate in modern politics after railroading Bernie. They decided to play a dangerous game of chicken by holding Trump to the heads of rational Americans.

[AllanH20]

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

People should do whatever they want, this is their right to vote. End of story.

But I was going to go to the houses of all the people who want to vote for a third party and arrest them..

You mean I can't do that?

I guess you're all free to do whatever you want now

[CharlesOakley]

A lot of people won't be voting at all. Why not go after them rather than people voting their conscience?

[AllanH20]

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

Most people don't live in swing states. If your state is blue or especially red, voting 3rd party won't matter at all. http://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-election-battleground-states

Let's not forget that a lot of the blame for the viability of Trump rests at the feet of the DNC. They are planning to put forward the least popular candidate in modern politics after railroading Bernie. They decided to play a dangerous game of chicken by holding Trump to the heads of rational Americans.

You're overestimating Sanders' popularity and underrating Hillary's. If Sanders was more popular, he would have received the nomination. It was actually a runaway victory for Hillary, Sanders just waited longer than usual to drop out of the race.

[NY2TheBay]

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

People should do whatever they want, this is their right to vote. End of story.

But I was going to go to the houses of all the people who want to vote for a third party and arrest them..

You mean I can't do that?

I guess you're all free to do whatever you want now

Oh well thats no fun to just tease with that, that's thread of the year candidate in itself.

Knicks RealGm will surely pay for your bail..

[NY2TheBay]

Alright which one of you did this with your alias twitter account..fess up.

My guess is its H20Allan..

[AllanH20]

Alright which one of you did this with your alias twitter account..fess up.

My guess is its H20Allan..

Na, I wouldn't even joke about that. I don't want the FBI on my ass.

I'm honestly not that worried about Trump, I think he's going to get trounced.

[duetta]

There isn't any legitimate reason to not think he is a billionaire.

There actually is. The idea originally emerged in an unauthorized biography of Trump, in which the author (don't remember his name) estimated that his actual net worth is actually $350 million, with the rest of proposed net worth having to do with the value of his "brand".

[NY2TheBay]

Na, I wouldn't even joke about that. I don't want the FBI on my ass.

I'm honestly not that worried about Trump, I think he's going to get trounced.

Then I suppose you shouldnt be concerned about third party votes.

I've said for awhile that it was a long shot for him mainly due to women and minority voters.

[CJackson]

When this is over Trump will be a pariah to the majority of humanity

Some say there is no such thing as bad publicity, but Trump may find out otherwise

[AllanH20]

Na, I wouldn't even joke about that. I don't want the FBI on my ass.

I'm honestly not that worried about Trump, I think he's going to get trounced.

Then I suppose you shouldnt be concerned about third party votes.

I've said for awhile that it was a long shot for him mainly due to women and minority voters.

Yes but he's so dangerous that I don't want to risk it

[Greenie]

can we do that when the other party doesn't have a very popular candidate..

A very popular, crazy, fascist, fear mongering candidate..

Seriously guys, any other election, that's fine. But not this one.

Unless you're in a state that's not close at all then do whatever you want.

People should do whatever they want, this is their right to vote.

THANK YOU

[NY2TheBay]

Na, I wouldn't even joke about that. I don't want the FBI on my ass.

I'm honestly not that worried about Trump, I think he's going to get trounced.

Then I suppose you shouldnt be concerned about third party votes.

I've said for awhile that it was a long shot for him mainly due to women and minority voters.

Yes but he's so dangerous that I don't want to risk it

Well its too bad that you cant control other's votes, or wait....can you?

HRC isnt too far of, bro. She is a hawk.

[CJackson]

There isn't any legitimate reason to not think he is a billionaire.

There actually is. The idea originally emerged in an unauthorized biography of Trump, in which the author (don't remember his name) estimated that his actual net worth is actually $350 million, with the rest of proposed net worth having to do with the value of his "brand".

Trump made a good chunk of his money peddling his name in licensing deals.

For instance, buildings with his name on it NOT built by him. The developers paid him a licensing fee to use his name on the building so they can market it as a Trump luxury condo tower.

That gravy train is probably ending now because who is going to associate class with the name Trump? Not that he was ever classy, but he was the nouveau riche's guady emblem of success and now association with Trump will be a taint so he is pretty much fuqqed.

With all of his cash flow issues and debt restructurings he is always fighting off financial death. His cash flow needs are big so as soon as these core income streams diminish he will be mostly out of business.

He's a fraud and like everything else he says his assertions about his net worth are not to be taken literally.

[J9Starks3]

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.

-John Quincy Adams

[AllanH20]

The amount of hipster contrarians on the internet is kind of funny to me.