FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Riot Randolph]

rondo is straight trash now. why entertain the thought? rather let gallo run it with a cheap veteran backup.

i sorta agree
90%

but the amazing thing is that his season with Dallas has lowered his value to the lowest its been since pre-big three in Bahstun

we could probably lock him up for 10 mil - 12 mil

Im not saying thats the right move but Rondo at 12 mil would have been a pipe dream last year this time

if knicks could get him for 10... id be all for...

[melomax]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

[NoLayupRule]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

that is the common understanding though its a little flawed

thats how it has been run in LA and at times in Chi with Longley or Cartwright

however the triangle is based on movement - ball and person - and usually with the center in the high post

Rondo is a top guard at penetration and a top defender and leads the league or is near top in assists yearly

I think the triangle can find a way to make it work with him


that said Id only bring him in at 10 mil per

[melomax]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

that is the common understanding though its a little flawed

thats how it has been run in LA and at times in Chi with Longley or Cartwright

however the triangle is based on movement - ball and person - and usually with the center in the high post

Rondo is a top guard at penetration and a top defender and leads the league or is near top in assists yearly

I think the triangle can find a way to make it work with him


that said Id only bring him in at 10 mil per

Rondo is a nice player who would certainly improve our team.


but with respect to how to allocate our resources, I think there are greater positions of deficit on this team where 10m would be far more beneficial to.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

that is the common understanding though its a little flawed

thats how it has been run in LA and at times in Chi with Longley or Cartwright

however the triangle is based on movement - ball and person - and usually with the center in the high post

Rondo is a top guard at penetration and a top defender and leads the league or is near top in assists yearly

I think the triangle can find a way to make it work with him


that said Id only bring him in at 10 mil per

He's always near the top in assists because he pounds the ball for HUGE chunks of the game clock. In addition to that, the defense goes under every screen with him and is able to sag off a huge amount --> which would mess with our spacing at the FT line and post, assuming he's the one passing the ball (and if he isn't, he's hurting the off ball cutting because his man is just ignoring him while he camps out in the paint for 2 seconds and steps out for 1). I honestly see no way the triangle can work with him.

[Johnny Hoops]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

Rondo would be great in the triangle regardless of his shooting -- if this were 5 years ago and he didn't have a once injured knee.

The issue with Rondo isn't his shooting -- it's that he is no longer the defensive player, rebounding monster or all over the court energizer bunny he used to be. A 25 year old Rondo pre-injury with crappy shooting puts the Knicks on his back and into the playoffs -- the current Rondo I don't think he's that good any longer.

[Johnny Hoops]

Exactly what is the difference between a healthy Amare and LMA, game-wise?

Maybe it's the 46 and 43 L.A. put up in back to back games of playoffs last year against Rockets and tough defenders like Howard/Asik.

[Johnny Hoops]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

that is the common understanding though its a little flawed

thats how it has been run in LA and at times in Chi with Longley or Cartwright

however the triangle is based on movement - ball and person - and usually with the center in the high post

Rondo is a top guard at penetration and a top defender and leads the league or is near top in assists yearly

I think the triangle can find a way to make it work with him


that said Id only bring him in at 10 mil per

He's always near the top in assists because he pounds the ball for HUGE chunks of the game clock. In addition to that, the defense goes under every screen with him and is able to sag off a huge amount --> which would mess with our spacing at the FT line and post, assuming he's the one passing the ball (and if he isn't, he's hurting the off ball cutting because his man is just ignoring him while he camps out in the paint for 2 seconds and steps out for 1). I honestly see no way the triangle can work with him.

Dallas was #1 in offense prior to Rondo trade -- post trade I believe they slipped into the 13-15 range.

Dallas was a beautiful team to watch both last post-season (with Calderon/D-Harris) and early this season with (J-Nelson/D-Harris) initiating the offense. Since Rondo arrived they look sub-par in my opinion and the coach his holding his tongue on Rondo or the whole season will go down in flames.

[Thugger HBC]

Exactly what is the difference between a healthy Amare and LMA, game-wise?

Maybe it's the 46 and 43 L.A. put up in back to back games of playoffs last year against Rockets and tough defenders like Howard/Asik.

I've seen Amare abuse Tim Duncan, so not really seeing a difference.

[god4gives]

C--- RoLo or Koufos / Ajinca / Bachynski
PF---- paul millsap / Towns / JSmith
SF---- Melo / Thomas / Early
SG---- Danny green or DeMarre Carroll / Hardaway / Thanasis
PG---- Galloway / Alexey Shved / Calderon

or

C--- RoLo or Koufos / Ajinca / Bachynski
PF---- paul millsap / kaminsky / JSmith
SF---- Melo / Thomas / Early
SG---- Danny green or DeMarre Carroll / Hardaway / Thanasis
PG---- Galloway / Alexey Shved / Calderon

[melomax]

I'm warming up to millsap.


still want to max Draymond Green though, and Khris Middleton before throwing money at rolo/millsap/hibbert

[E-Balla]

Exactly what is the difference between a healthy Amare and LMA, game-wise?

Maybe it's the 46 and 43 L.A. put up in back to back games of playoffs last year against Rockets and tough defenders like Howard/Asik.

What about healthy Amare averaging 37 ppg against prime Tim Duncan in the WCF at the age of 22...

Prime Amare is easily the better player.

[M2J]

Rondo would be great in the triangle. Of course you will want him to push the ball, and seek easy buckets before running the offense, but he could fit.

As previously said the triangle has become famous for running offense around centers and a couple of famous swing men. But Rondo could fill that role. His penetration would be great for the offense, and has proven that he can actually even run offense from the post, and make an impact passing. A great pg could add dynamics to the offense we haven't seen yet from a first or second option standpoint (Payton doesn't count).

Rondo would need to look for his own offense more, that would be the biggest change. Just put more shooting around him from other positions.

Besides Gasol, I'm hoping Knicks get him before most other options

[Knick Spaniard]

Let's make a draw about who will be at Knicks roster in September with prudent bets in our FA and Draft:


My bet:


Galloway - Calderón
Carroll - Shved - Early
Anthony - Prince - Early
Towns - Bass - Amundson
Asik - Biyombo - Amundson

Tim Hardaway will be traded at Draft night

Which is yours?

[EMG518]

Towns is a center, he cant play with Asik and Carroll is a forward, he is not a shooting guard.

Please let that not be the players we tanked all year to get.

[FemaleDogPlease]

Phil isn't adding Rondo. He will add pieces that fit.

Would be better to spend on Monta Ellis.

[Jay10]

Towns is a center, he cant play with Asik and Carroll is a forward, he is not a shooting guard.

Please let that not be the players we tanked all year to get.

Okafor is the player that can't play with Asik; Towns can play alongside any center since he can play both in the paint and from the perimeter.

[EMG518]

Towns is a center, he cant play with Asik and Carroll is a forward, he is not a shooting guard.

Please let that not be the players we tanked all year to get.

Okafor is the player that can't play with Asik; Towns can play alongside any center since he can play both in the paint and from the perimeter.

You dont sound at all biased. This has nothign to do with Okafor smh. Towns can not play with any center and play on the perimeter. Just stop.

[NoLayupRule]

Exactly what is the difference between a healthy Amare and LMA, game-wise?

Maybe it's the 46 and 43 L.A. put up in back to back games of playoffs last year against Rockets and tough defenders like Howard/Asik.

I don't see a ton of similarity between LMA and Amare even comparing primes

For starters LMA has never had injury issues where Amare always has
Also LMA is a finesse player with size and toughness who uses a series of post moves, speed and shooting to destroy people
Amare at his best was a pick and roll power player who used speed and athleticism to dominate over people

Honestly even at their peaks there isn't much similar but now especially its a moot point since LMA is a guy without injury issues who's like 5 very long years younger and without much wear and tear

[BeagleBoss]

PF Greg Monroe
SF Carmelo Anthony
C Jahlil Okafor
SG Wes Matthews
PG Jose Calderon