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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2361 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:55 pm

N Y K wrote:
god shammgod wrote:by the way i did the math.....people talk about mitch being unreliable due to health. not wrong but...

in the last 5 years.......

mitchell robinson has averaged 50.8 games a season
31, 59, 72, 31, 61

karl anthony towns has averaged 50 games a season
62, 29, 74, 50, 35,

good luck bozos

Don’t forget OG 55.4 average too.

Everyone keeps talking about if we're healthy next season ignoring the fact we already aren't have have two guys guaranteed to miss a large portion of the season lol.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2362 » by KnixinSix » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:55 pm

Context wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:Lmao soooo many going to be eating thier words when they see
how flawless our offense will be…

People forget how good Mikal is when he is motivated,

OG with his suspect handles will be able to be more incorporated into the offense with wide open lanes,

and a center who can hit 3s at an over 40% clip.

Most importantly players who all buy in…we had a severe logjam at guard and keeping McBride was the play….most importantly we have a what none of those other teams had , a bona fide leader on and off the court in a Brunson .

We make the finals in our first year, mark it boys!

I get the PTSD, big contract paranoia, and percived relationships and past reputations of Thibs and Kat- Kat as being soft etc...
But this isnt the past and in the future we have a new organization who has delivered. Thibs and Kat have grown and the Kat contract
is the best value that we could have gotten for the Randle slot "today"- Brunson took the pay cut and we had to use the slot up before
it vanished. WIth all of that said...
I agree with you - many of our fellow Knick fans are really underestimating the fit of this team. They are underestimating the IQ of this team. They are underestimating Brunson's unique character and personality. They are underestimating that while Kat isnt perfect-
7ft centers that move, shoot and play like Kat -at 28 years old -don't grow on trees and dont get paired with a player like Brunson on a team of elite wing defenders. Not to mention, they are underestimating that not many teams have players who can guard Embiid and the Joker-while being unguardable on the offensive side...

The fit is the best part for me Big shot...



Everything in this world carries risk except Christ.

Phillies roster has its two biggest stars not just as injury prone but extremely injury prone.

Lakers AD and a 40 year old LebRon. Clippers Kawhi. Mavs, Kyrie. Celts, KP.

If you want to be positive look at how all our starters are all under 30, Bridges and Brunson are quite durable. Hart is quite durable. We have added pretty good depth to withstand injury as well. It's a very well constructed team for today's NBA.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2363 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:56 pm

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You're right, both the Wolves and Knicks do play under the same CBA. That same CBA cost the Knicks' team their young starting center in Hartenstein. Wolves didn't want to hit the top tax apron and not be able to keep Jaden McDaniel AND Naz Reid, ala the Knicks.

That's why the Wolves said signed off. That and that the Knicks would let Donte go to them (although the thought of playing next to Antman and get more minutes than here with Mikal at the 2. Easy peazy for the Wolves.

This development staff has been great. What the task is with the coaching staff is to elevate KAT's enthusiasm for defense. He can take anyone on offense and Rose and have added leaders that play together on the team. IF, the staff can round out KAT's game, and follow Brunson's lead, it's going to be problems for the East.

Increase KAT's thirst for rebounds and defensive presence and KAT is an all-star 5 in the East. Better than both BAM and KP overall.

We get to the FInals and I'll chip in $100 toward's KAT's contract, if that makes you feel better. :lol:

Thibs tried this already that's why KAT hated him, **** on him when he got replaced with a **** coach, and seems to be angry about being traded now. It's why Jimmy begged out of Minnesota. This is all rehash. KAT isn't the guy, KAT+Thibs is a disaster, KAT+NY media is a disaster, Rose blew up the window so his son and understudy could be rich, and you dumbasses are happy knowing we're a money laundering scheme for CAA more than an NBA franchise.


LOL :lol: You have completely melted down my Dude.

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Goddamn I don't remember there being so many nancies on this board wtf happened?

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2364 » by KnixinSix » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:57 pm

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Is it though?

I'm wary of it too, but I feel like people view this like it's the mid 80's and OG would be banging with Oakley sized PFs for 40 mpg.

They'll be a lot of switches. Yeah, he'll be on some big guys. I don't think he gets more or less injured either way. He's just injury prone period.

It's a concern. OG, KAT and probably Mitch.

Kind of like the Clippers rolled the dice with Kawahi and PG


that failed every year because of health


Yeah, I was pointing that out.

Still, it shows some FO will take that chance.


Kawhi and PG are older AND more injury prone than our guys. Philly has Embiid and PG now. Those are bigger risks than what we have on a starting squad all under 30.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2365 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:59 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Context wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:Lmao soooo many going to be eating thier words when they see
how flawless our offense will be…

People forget how good Mikal is when he is motivated,

OG with his suspect handles will be able to be more incorporated into the offense with wide open lanes,

and a center who can hit 3s at an over 40% clip.

Most importantly players who all buy in…we had a severe logjam at guard and keeping McBride was the play….most importantly we have a what none of those other teams had , a bona fide leader on and off the court in a Brunson .

We make the finals in our first year, mark it boys!

I get the PTSD, big contract paranoia, and percived relationships and past reputations of Thibs and Kat- Kat as being soft etc...
But this isnt the past and in the future we have a new organization who has delivered. Thibs and Kat have grown and the Kat contract
is the best value that we could have gotten for the Randle slot "today"- Brunson took the pay cut and we had to use the slot up before
it vanished. WIth all of that said...
I agree with you - many of our fellow Knick fans are really underestimating the fit of this team. They are underestimating the IQ of this team. They are underestimating Brunson's unique character and personality. They are underestimating that while Kat isnt perfect-
7ft centers that move, shoot and play like Kat -at 28 years old -don't grow on trees and dont get paired with a player like Brunson on a team of elite wing defenders. Not to mention, they are underestimating that not many teams have players who can guard Embiid and the Joker-while being unguardable on the offensive side...

The fit is the best part for me Big shot...



Everything in this world carries risk except Christ.

Phillies roster has its two biggest stars not just as injury prone but extremely injury prone.

Lakers AD and a 40 year old LebRon. Clippers Kawhi. Mavs, Kyrie. Celts, KP.

If you want to be positive look at how all our starters are all under 30, Bridges and Brunson are quite durable. Hart is quite durable. We have added pretty good depth to withstand injury as well. It's a very well constructed team for today's NBA.

And I make fun of Philly fans for thinking they're going to be good next year.

The Lakers got old men and they win 41 games a year because usually LeBron and AD get hurt.

The Clippers barely make the playoffs and lose in the first round every year because of injury.

The Celtics have amazing depth so KP doesn't matter they just won a ring without him.

If NY is now mentioned with Philly and the Clippers it seems to me like y'all don't even expect a Conference Finals and for a team all in that's bad.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2366 » by DaGawd » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:59 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Context wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:Lmao soooo many going to be eating thier words when they see
how flawless our offense will be…

People forget how good Mikal is when he is motivated,

OG with his suspect handles will be able to be more incorporated into the offense with wide open lanes,

and a center who can hit 3s at an over 40% clip.

Most importantly players who all buy in…we had a severe logjam at guard and keeping McBride was the play….most importantly we have a what none of those other teams had , a bona fide leader on and off the court in a Brunson .

We make the finals in our first year, mark it boys!

I get the PTSD, big contract paranoia, and percived relationships and past reputations of Thibs and Kat- Kat as being soft etc...
But this isnt the past and in the future we have a new organization who has delivered. Thibs and Kat have grown and the Kat contract
is the best value that we could have gotten for the Randle slot "today"- Brunson took the pay cut and we had to use the slot up before
it vanished. WIth all of that said...
I agree with you - many of our fellow Knick fans are really underestimating the fit of this team. They are underestimating the IQ of this team. They are underestimating Brunson's unique character and personality. They are underestimating that while Kat isnt perfect-
7ft centers that move, shoot and play like Kat -at 28 years old -don't grow on trees and dont get paired with a player like Brunson on a team of elite wing defenders. Not to mention, they are underestimating that not many teams have players who can guard Embiid and the Joker-while being unguardable on the offensive side...

The fit is the best part for me Big shot...



Everything in this world carries risk except Christ.

Phillies roster has its two biggest stars not just as injury prone but extremely injury prone.

Lakers AD and a 40 year old LebRon. Clippers Kawhi. Mavs, Kyrie. Celts, KP.

If you want to be positive look at how all our starters are all under 30, Bridges and Brunson are quite durable. Hart is quite durable. We have added pretty good depth to withstand injury as well. It's a very well constructed team for today's NBA.

pretty great prospective here tbh. almost every contender has built in risk with their roster. it’s the price you pay to go for it. scared money don’t make none
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2367 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:02 pm

BigShot Bojan wrote:Lmao soooo many going to be eating thier words when they see
how flawless our offense will be…

People forget how good Mikal is when he is motivated,

OG with his suspect handles will be able to be more incorporated into the offense with wide open lanes,

and a center who can hit 3s at an over 40% clip.

Most importantly players who all buy in…we had a severe logjam at guard and keeping McBride was the play….chemistry wise we have what ensures it what none of those other teams had , a bona fide leader on and off the court in a Brunson .

We make the finals in our first year, mark it boys!

We were the 3rd ranked offense 2 years ago before we made any of these splash moves. We were 7th last year with Jules out half the season.

Are you guys under the impression that we were a bad offensive team this whole time?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2368 » by knicksstuff » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:02 pm

E-Balla wrote:
N Y K wrote:
god shammgod wrote:by the way i did the math.....people talk about mitch being unreliable due to health. not wrong but...

in the last 5 years.......

mitchell robinson has averaged 50.8 games a season
31, 59, 72, 31, 61

karl anthony towns has averaged 50 games a season
62, 29, 74, 50, 35,

good luck bozos

Don’t forget OG 55.4 average too.

Everyone keeps talking about if we're healthy next season ignoring the fact we already aren't have have two guys guaranteed to miss a large portion of the season lol.



Using two seasons that weren’t even full seasons game wise is something.

Is 20-21 season he played 50/72 games… he missed 13 games due to Covid. Let’s put some context behind these stupid narratives
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2369 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:02 pm

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BigShot Bojan wrote:Lmao soooo many going to be eating thier words when they see
how flawless our offense will be…

People forget how good Mikal is when he is motivated,

OG with his suspect handles will be able to be more incorporated into the offense with wide open lanes,

and a center who can hit 3s at an over 40% clip.

Most importantly players who all buy in…we had a severe logjam at guard and keeping McBride was the play


Nah. They’ll disappear until something bad happens. We’ll see them when someone gets injured. Bad, bad people. Chaos merchants.


Oh, I'll be here every game, my friend. The good, the bad, and the undoubtedly ugly.

Fat KAT should know better that we ain’t going anywhere lol
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2370 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:05 pm

god shammgod wrote:by the way i did the math.....people talk about mitch being unreliable due to health. not wrong but...

in the last 5 years.......

mitchell robinson has averaged 50.8 games a season
31, 59, 72, 31, 61

karl anthony towns has averaged 50 games a season
62, 29, 74, 50, 35,

good luck bozos

So we gave up one of the most durable Pfs in the league, a 6th man of the year candidate and a 1st round pick for an extremely flawed big man who happens to be more injury prone than Mitch. This should end well!
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2371 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:05 pm

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N Y K wrote:Don’t forget OG 55.4 average too.

Everyone keeps talking about if we're healthy next season ignoring the fact we already aren't have have two guys guaranteed to miss a large portion of the season lol.



Using two seasons that weren’t even full seasons game wise is something.

Is 20-21 season he played 50/72 games… he missed 13 games due to Covid. Let’s put some context behind these stupid narratives

Lmfao the same can be said for Mitch no? That was a like comparison, last 5 years for both guys. If Mitch is injury prone so is KAT. So is OG. If Embiid is injury prone so are KAT and OG. If PG is injury prone so is KAT and OG. If Anthony Davis is injury prone so is KAT and OG. If Jimmy is injury prone so is KAT and OG.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2372 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:07 pm

I'll put it like this, KAT only one time in the last 5 years has played enough of the season as a percentage to qualify for postseason awards.
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Post#2373 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:11 pm

Knicks new miracle doctor from the Mavs will solve KAT and OG health issues. Mitch, of course, beyond help
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Post#2374 » by god shammgod » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:12 pm

If you do just the last 2 years I think he played 1 more game than Mitch lol
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Post#2375 » by DaGawd » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:by the way i did the math.....people talk about mitch being unreliable due to health. not wrong but...

in the last 5 years.......

mitchell robinson has averaged 50.8 games a season
31, 59, 72, 31, 61

karl anthony towns has averaged 50 games a season
62, 29, 74, 50, 35,

good luck bozos

So we gave up one of the most durable Pfs in the league, a 6th man of the year candidate and a 1st round pick for an extremely flawed big man who happens to be more injury prone than Mitch. This should end well!

for all the talk of randle being durable.. he’s failed us as far as being available when it counted 2 straight years in a row due to being injured..and he’s only getting older
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2376 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:17 pm

god shammgod wrote:If you do just the last 2 years I think he played 1 more game than Mitch lol

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2377 » by Jonathan2347 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:18 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Nah. They’ll disappear until something bad happens. We’ll see them when someone gets injured. Bad, bad people. Chaos merchants.


Oh, I'll be here every game, my friend. The good, the bad, and the undoubtedly ugly.

Fat KAT should know better that we ain’t going anywhere lol
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Would you still make that Deuce/Kessler trade now?

What if the Knicks made that deal and then moved Mitch for a 4?
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a) The TWolves didn't want Deuce, they wanted Donte

b) Deuce makes about 10 million less per year than Donte and it would have been nearly impossible to work out this trade.
We really needed to make this

Randle/Mitch/Duece + DET 1st and some 2nd round picks

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Plays hard on defense
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I'd have loved that but TWolves didn't want Mitch
With the framework being offset, I need a 3rd team. Anything is possible now. Let's see what happens.

Would be a dream if we keep Donte after all and send off Mitch, Duece any draft compensation we are able to pull together.

Honestly all can be saved if we send off Mitch/Duece and pieces to bring in Kessler. All would be forgiven for losing Donte.

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Towns 7'0
Kessler 7'0

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2378 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:19 pm

DaGawd wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:by the way i did the math.....people talk about mitch being unreliable due to health. not wrong but...

in the last 5 years.......

mitchell robinson has averaged 50.8 games a season
31, 59, 72, 31, 61

karl anthony towns has averaged 50 games a season
62, 29, 74, 50, 35,

good luck bozos

So we gave up one of the most durable Pfs in the league, a 6th man of the year candidate and a 1st round pick for an extremely flawed big man who happens to be more injury prone than Mitch. This should end well!

for all the talk of randle being durable.. he’s failed us as far as being available when it counted 2 straight years in a row due to being injured..and he’s only getting older

That shoulder injury was a freak accident though. Besides that, he’s basically been iron man for majority of his career. It’s not even close compared to KAT.
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Post#2379 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:20 pm

I'm all for a Kessler move (trying not to quote the huge quote above). Ainge is such a prick about making moves though.

And, Knicks kind of emptied the pick cupboard with Mikal.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#2380 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:23 pm

god shammgod wrote:If you do just the last 2 years I think he played 1 more game than Mitch lol

KP has played more games than him since 2020. :lol:

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