Lets be real about Mike Breen

[clipse375]

This is the dumbest thread ever. Every time I go to the front page and see this thread it annoys me. Breen's great at what he does. I guess it's cool if he's not your cup of tea. To each their own. But to say he "He hates Melo" and "He was clearly rooting for the Celtics" is stupidity. Wish I could ban people who make stupid comments like that.

I surprisingly enjoyed Spero's call last night alongside Clyde. He's done a good job. But for an entire NBA season, I want no one else calling our games other than Mike Breen.

Maybe he tries not to be so bias towards the Knicks when he does the ESPN/ABC coverage, but either way he's a great announcer and you can't take that away from him. Enough with the stupid comments about him "Hating Melo", and all that other nonsense.

[blueNorange]

to piggy back on thugger's post

how many times does clyde trash melo during the game? he basically calls melo selfish in a nice way, he just hides it with the word 'no ball movement'

but no you guys bash breen because he's getting excited for the celtics on an espn game, watched all around the world.

[Rasho Brezec]

Clyde gets a pass for some reason when he's been the more pessimistic one in the duo this whole season. There were countless times when Breen was praising the team and Clyde was annoyed with it.

[kNicksGmen]

This is the dumbest thread ever. Every time I go to the front page and see this thread it annoys me. Breen's great at what he does. I guess it's cool if he's not your cup of tea. To each their own. But to say he "He hates Melo" and "He was clearly rooting for the Celtics" is stupidity. Wish I could ban people who make stupid comments like that.

I surprisingly enjoyed Spero's call last night alongside Clyde. He's done a good job. But for an entire NBA season, I want no one else calling our games other than Mike Breen.

Maybe he tries not to be so bias towards the Knicks when he does the ESPN/ABC coverage, but either way he's a great announcer and you can't take that away from him. Enough with the stupid comments about him "Hating Melo", and all that other nonsense.

he hates melo. it's quite obvious. not sure why people deny it. he spread false rumors about him and constantly out him down last season to the point it brainwashed casual fans into thinking the knicks would be better off keeping lin and cutting melo lol

[Thugger HBC]

This is the dumbest thread ever. Every time I go to the front page and see this thread it annoys me. Breen's great at what he does. I guess it's cool if he's not your cup of tea. To each their own. But to say he "He hates Melo" and "He was clearly rooting for the Celtics" is stupidity. Wish I could ban people who make stupid comments like that.

I surprisingly enjoyed Spero's call last night alongside Clyde. He's done a good job. But for an entire NBA season, I want no one else calling our games other than Mike Breen.

Maybe he tries not to be so bias towards the Knicks when he does the ESPN/ABC coverage, but either way he's a great announcer and you can't take that away from him. Enough with the stupid comments about him "Hating Melo", and all that other nonsense.

he hates melo. it's quite obvious. not sure why people deny it. he spread false rumors about him and constantly out him down last season to the point it brainwashed casual fans into thinking the knicks would be better off keeping lin and cutting melo lol

Breen enjoys team play and the big moment.

There is zero evidence he hates melo.

[kNicksGmen]

spreading false statements repeatedly that make melo look bad makes me think otherwise. maybe hate is too strong, but he does not like melo, at all. he was buddy buddy with dantoni and a gallo slobbber, probably still bitter about the trade and dantoni getting let go.

he constantly references stuff like "that looked like denver carmelo" lol wtf does that mean? constantly taking shots about his poor defense,.

i've said throughout this season he wasn't as bad as last year, because the knicks were winning, but when the knicks struggle he always comes down on melo unfairly.

[blueNorange]

what false statements?

that melo hated d'antoni? because he did

that melo didn't give it his best under d'antoni? because that's true too

the only one here who's making false statements are the ones who hate breen.

[Thugger HBC]

spreading false statements repeatedly that make melo look bad makes me think otherwise. maybe hate is too strong, but he does not like melo, at all. he was buddy buddy with dantoni and a gallo slobbber, probably still bitter about the trade and dantoni getting let go.

he constantly references stuff like "that looked like denver carmelo" lol wtf does that mean? constantly taking shots about his poor defense,.

i've said throughout this season he wasn't as bad as last year, because the knicks were winning, but when the knicks struggle he always comes down on melo unfairly.

Everyone on the Knicks payroll blamed Melo for the Dantoni situation, not just Breen.

Very few in the organization endorsed the trade.

Criticizing Melo doesn't make him a hater.

Even Jeff last night was complaianing about melo and JR sisos, I guess he hates them too?

[blueNorange]

\he constantly references stuff like "that looked like denver carmelo" lol wtf does that mean? constantly taking shots about his poor defense.

oh and i get it, you hate breen because he tells you what you're already thinking in your head but don't want to be told about it.

[kNicksGmen]

i was talking about him saying "melo admitted he didn't play hard, or as hard as he could for dantoni!" he said this nearly every game after woodson was coach and the team was playing well. twisting words to make a guy look bad. there are countless examples of him just throwing negative things out there that don't need to be mentioned.

i've said it before he a good commentator, but his bias is obvious to me.

[kNicksGmen]

\he constantly references stuff like "that looked like denver carmelo" lol wtf does that mean? constantly taking shots about his poor defense.

oh and i get it, you hate breen because he tells you what you're already thinking in your head but don't want to be told about it.

no, he takes unnecessary shots at him that have nothing to do with the game going on currently. if melo makes a bad play he has every right to call it a bad play, but that's not what i'm talking about at all.

[NYKat]

I mentioned it in the first half last night, when we went on a run to go up 20, I said "do you see how subdued Breen is when we go on our runs?" in the game thread.

This was before I saw the second half where he just absolutely ejaculated all over the coverage of the Celtics run, which made is biased commentary all the more glaring.

If JVG wasn't there counteract that crap I couldn't take it and I have to watch the national coverage because I don't live in NY. I hope they bring Hubie, Reggie Miller, Kevin Harlan, Doris Burke, Steve Kerr, Marv Albert or ANYBODY to cover the Knicks games aside from that ****** Breen. He's so irritating.

but Dolan is a moron, btw, he fires Marv for bias against the Knicks and hires someone so much worse

[Ursusamericanus]

I don't hate Breen per se, but it just seems like his tone of voice seems ultra excited when a team playing against the Knicks is making a run. And if New York is doing big things his tone of voice goes flatter. Maybe it's just selective hearing on my part but I'm definitely not the only one who's noticed it.

Literally last night it almost seemed like he was rooting for the Celtics during the run -- at one point I recollect something along the lines of "Well it seems out of reach now, but if the Knicks keep making those careless plays the Celtics might just pull it off!" and he genuinely seemed like he wanted it to happen. The level of excitement for the opponent always seems higher. I don't know, I've noticed it for years and it's irked me. I've never had any issues with other announcers when they're calling Knicks games -- Marv, Harlan, Stockton, whoever else. Something about Breen always just seems off.

Again though, we're obviously biased to some degree. This is all moot if he's actually a Knick fan. I mean is he really a Knick fan?

[NYK_89]

Hubey Brown and JVG should be the guys doing national broadcasts...love those two.

Man I literally cannot stand Hubey... But to each his own.




Anyways as i said awhile ago you guys do realize that fans often complain about Breen slurping the Knicks when he does us on national tv right... You guys are beyond absurd at times when it comes to Breen.

[ctorres]

I would prefer Hubie Brown and Mike Tirico calling Knicks games over JVG and Mike Breen. Hubie Brown even at 79 is the best analyst ESPN has. Tirico is completely neutral and just informative.

[NYK_89]

I don't hate Breen per se, but it just seems like his tone of voice seems ultra excited when a team playing against the Knicks is making a run. And if New York is doing big things his tone of voice goes flatter. Maybe it's just selective hearing on my part but I'm definitely not the only one who's noticed it.

Literally last night it almost seemed like he was rooting for the Celtics during the run -- at one point I recollect something along the lines of "Well it seems out of reach now, but if the Knicks keep making those careless plays the Celtics might just pull it off!" and he genuinely seemed like he wanted it to happen. The level of excitement for the opponent always seems higher. I don't know, I've noticed it for years and it's irked me. I've never had any issues with other announcers when they're calling Knicks games -- Marv, Harlan, Stockton, whoever else. Something about Breen always just seems off.

Again though, we're obviously biased to some degree. This is all moot if he's actually a Knick fan. I mean is he really a Knick fan?

It is...


Also wtf why would an announcer who is unbiassed on national TV not be excited about a 20-0 run down 26... I mean do you realize the absurdidty of knocking a guy for doing that, if he wasn't acting excited for it Celtics fans should have been angry.

[clipse375]

This is the dumbest thread ever. Every time I go to the front page and see this thread it annoys me. Breen's great at what he does. I guess it's cool if he's not your cup of tea. To each their own. But to say he "He hates Melo" and "He was clearly rooting for the Celtics" is stupidity. Wish I could ban people who make stupid comments like that.

I surprisingly enjoyed Spero's call last night alongside Clyde. He's done a good job. But for an entire NBA season, I want no one else calling our games other than Mike Breen.

Maybe he tries not to be so bias towards the Knicks when he does the ESPN/ABC coverage, but either way he's a great announcer and you can't take that away from him. Enough with the stupid comments about him "Hating Melo", and all that other nonsense.

he hates melo. it's quite obvious. not sure why people deny it. he spread false rumors about him and constantly out him down last season to the point it brainwashed casual fans into thinking the knicks would be better off keeping lin and cutting melo lol

You out yo' mind kid.

[Ursusamericanus]

Of course the 20-point run was exciting, I don't fault the guy for that, but frankly it sounded like he was ROOTING for the Celtics to pull it off. And when Melo hit that 3, or when JR had his and-1 play, he suddenly flattened out -- really just sounded disappointed. It didn't seem balanced. It never does. And that's just yesterday; like anyone else I've been listening to Breen for years. I haven't complained about any other announcer, it just seems to be skewed with Breen.

I digress though. It clearly might just be bias. It's just odd that I've only noticed it with Breen, who otherwise is a good announcer (although I hate his "...and all of a sudden it's a __ point game!").

[DE FENSE]

So I just watched the BSPN broadcast I DVR'd while watching MSG live. Breen wasn't as bad as some of you made him out to be.

He called the Celtic run with great enthusiasm because that's his job!

-Just before Shump's steal and layup, JR took a horrible step back that Breen called "not even close" Well have a look at that shot, it was almost a damn airball, even JVG questioned why he didn't drive it on old man Pierce.

-Then he calls Shump's steal and layup a "huge" defensive play.

-Then proceeds to give Bradley more praise after his layup on Tyson, and let's face it, Bradley spearheaded that whole run they made.

-JR takes another pretty ugly shot which Breen again calls "not even close"...its hard to argue that when he again clanks one off the rim!

-Then both Breen and JVG see the following blocking foul on Tyson as a bad call, both saying he had position and Breen even said KG pushed him into Green.

-Then Melo drives and misses a shot plus a foul, which Breen calls "way off" as it bounces off the glass and doesn't even catch rim. Breen admits they couldn't hear the whistle because of how loud the crowd was.

-Breen then calls Green "a little out of control" on his charge, which to my mind, he says because he got the favorable call last time he charged, this one was a little easier for the officials to call against him.

-Then Breen gets super excited on another Bradley steal and dunk. The way Bradley was consistently creating offense with his defense, it warranted such a reaction from an unbiased national television broadcaster. Breen was preparing for a legendary comeback, don't act like it didn't look that way for a few minutes!

-Melo hits a huge jumper and Breen gives him credit for making such a tough shot.

-Green shoots a wide open 3, Breen emphatically calls it "way off the mark" as it barely catches the side of the rim and goes out of bounds.


I think we get too emotional in our reactions to Breen, and I've been guilty of it too. Its hard because we know he is a Knicks fan and deep down we want him to be biased towards us, and when he calls it like he sees it, we get pissed. I'm not sure he deserves our vitriol; if anything we should blame the Knicks for giving him reason to get excited for the other team. The man is just doing his job, and a pretty damn good one at that.

[HighRyzer83]

Breen is just a whiny little herb and his personally comes through in his broadcasts, he doesn't root for the other team at all. Its not that he has a bias, he roots for the knicks at heart, just the type that would complain to the landlord if you were his neighbor, and would complain emphatically.