Should the Knicks tank in the '16-'17 season?

[Jeff Van Gully]

the seasons people accredit to tanking were natural failures. i think the discussion here is more about stop-gap players and their actual impact. patience isn't tanking. i think phil's regime will focus on the right players above all else.

carmelo just isn't going anywhere unless he wants to. y'all gotta just let that go. not worth the blood pressure spike thinking about melo trade possibilities. he has to request that. otherwise, he's actually a bit of a bargain if he doesn't completely break down over the next few seasons.

and we struck gold at #4 with KP. but how many teams have made a strategy of "okay... picks, tho?" and how many of those teams are actually good? point being, that's as much of a lottery ticket strategy as any. that's why the only way to play that is naturally. you don't go toward the light of losing in a competitive sport where competency is assessed continuously.

[Moose]

If we plan to tank, trade melo before the season begins.

[navyblue]

Won't set out to tank but will inspector Clouseau thier way into a mid lotto pick.

[NoStatsGuy]

the league looks to be in complete shutdown right now with one running up the rings count for the next couple seasons health provided

The best time to tank is during a dynasty

i agree with this statement, but GS did not look invincible to me. OKC blew it in a microcosm of their season full of blown opportunities. but they were human.

if it bleeds, we can kill it.

this GS team has the makings of a dynasty, health provided. but health is no guarantee and they look human to me. damn, damn, damn good -- but human.

true.. tbh, i dont see green playing like this for the rest of his career. he benefits greatly from klay and stephs greatness, he wouldnt look good on the kings or any other bottom team. Bogut will get older pretty fast i guess. Iggy has only couple of years. This team wont be a dynasty. o give them 2 or maybe 3 good years. and there will be "a new thing" in the NBA, like they were 2-3 years ago.

rationally its the best time to tank, but its just not happening. and i like it, why would i be interested in a team loosing on purpose, i cant understand how fans are cool with that

[blanko]

The best time to tank is during a dynasty

i agree with this statement, but GS did not look invincible to me. OKC blew it in a microcosm of their season full of blown opportunities. but they were human.

if it bleeds, we can kill it.

this GS team has the makings of a dynasty, health provided. but health is no guarantee and they look human to me. damn, damn, damn good -- but human.

true.. tbh, i dont see green playing like this for the rest of his career. he benefits greatly from klay and stephs greatness, he wouldnt look good on the kings or any other bottom team. Bogut will get older pretty fast i guess. Iggy has only couple of years. This team wont be a dynasty. o give them 2 or maybe 3 good years. and there will be "a new thing" in the NBA, like they were 2-3 years ago.

rationally its the best time to tank, but its just not happening. and i like it, why would i be interested in a team loosing on purpose, i cant understand how fans are cool with that

2 rings + 2-3 more years.... sounds like a dynasty to me...

[The Infamous1]

They're definitely gonna 3 peat. I can see them winning 4-6 championships overall in this run.

Remember their big 3 is all under 30, as long as they stay in tact the surrounding talent is interchangeable

[Zerostatic]

I guess I'll say Tank but I don't like the idea of trying to be bad but I do like the idea of going forward with the focus on the future so that means trade/let go of vets. Buy draft picks. Sign & draft young players and give them substantial roles. etc.

[NoStatsGuy]

i agree with this statement, but GS did not look invincible to me. OKC blew it in a microcosm of their season full of blown opportunities. but they were human.

if it bleeds, we can kill it.

this GS team has the makings of a dynasty, health provided. but health is no guarantee and they look human to me. damn, damn, damn good -- but human.

true.. tbh, i dont see green playing like this for the rest of his career. he benefits greatly from klay and stephs greatness, he wouldnt look good on the kings or any other bottom team. Bogut will get older pretty fast i guess. Iggy has only couple of years. This team wont be a dynasty. o give them 2 or maybe 3 good years. and there will be "a new thing" in the NBA, like they were 2-3 years ago.

rationally its the best time to tank, but its just not happening. and i like it, why would i be interested in a team loosing on purpose, i cant understand how fans are cool with that

2 rings + 2-3 more years.... sounds like a dynasty to me...

okay, i was thinking of the spurs/lakers/celtics kind of dynsties, could be misinterpretion by me then

[Stannis]

Depends on what happens in free agency... And Melo (his health, if he wants to stay or go, if the Knicks want to trade him or not)

But I think the Knicks should tank this season and try to trade Melo

[Jeff Van Gully]

true.. tbh, i dont see green playing like this for the rest of his career. he benefits greatly from klay and stephs greatness, he wouldnt look good on the kings or any other bottom team. Bogut will get older pretty fast i guess. Iggy has only couple of years. This team wont be a dynasty. o give them 2 or maybe 3 good years. and there will be "a new thing" in the NBA, like they were 2-3 years ago.

rationally its the best time to tank, but its just not happening. and i like it, why would i be interested in a team loosing on purpose, i cant understand how fans are cool with that

2 rings + 2-3 more years.... sounds like a dynasty to me...

okay, i was thinking of the spurs/lakers/celtics kind of dynsties, could be misinterpretion by me then

yeah, i think you can call 3 or 4 chips in a 5-6 year window a dynasty.

and if they get #2 this year, they're one year away from that word being thrown around. their time is now.

that said, i agree that it's all as fragile as curry's dorito ankles. but they are making the most of that borrowed time.

i was thinking if curry only got the one chip last year, would he be remembered as a legend or a shooting star? multiple chips will cement his place, even if his career gets cut short by health.

[E-Balla]

Of all times to tank next season is a terrible one. Next draft has 6-7 PGs projected top 20 and all of them can play and have a ton of size. With a draft this deep at PG getting the 4th pick vs getting the 12th pick isn't that much of a talent difference.

Fultz is basically DLo pt. 2 and he's projected top 3

Ntilikina is 6-5 with a 7 foot wingspan, shoots 85% on freethrows, passes well (not a shooter yet), plays great defense, and he's probably a late lotto pick

Lonzo Ball is 6-5, skinny as heck, but the best passer in the nation and he's athletic. Some are saying he's Zach LaVine with a brain and I've seen Jason Kidd comparisons plus he should be available in the early to mid lotto.

Dennis Smith was the top PG in the nation before getting hurt his senior season and he's super athletic. He's very Steve Francis or Jay Williams like.

Malik Monk is the best G scorer in HS and he's probably going outside the lotto. He's another super athlete and he's Zach LaVine 2.0.

De'Aaron Fox is going mid first round and he's 6-4 and great defensively (and passing the ball). He's like a young Rondo but his shot isn't broken (it's not good but it's not broken). I saw somewhere he had a +39 +/- in 15 minutes at the Nike Hoop Summit too so he might be a high impact guy.

Frank Jackson is the 7th guy but he's 6-4, shoots extremely well, slashes, and gets to the line. He's not a pure PG but his first step and shooting ability makes him a good prospect.

We need a PG and Phil likes PGs with size and athleticism. With all these guys coming out just at PG we'd be best off getting our SG and some bench Gs in the free agency so we can plug in one of these guys as out PG.

[Lockdown]

For sure NY should tank. It's time to start thinking about a post-Carmelo future, and Porzingis isn't enough by himself.

[NoStatsGuy]

melo isnt going anywhere guys. and we wont tank. can u start trying to deal with it?

horny did not come here to tank. melo will not go anywhere else other than cleaveland or miami (depending on lebron). and while melo has a big contract, there will be no trade to the cavs or anything.

melo probably retires as a knick, LaLa doesnt want to leave NY.. especially not for cleveland and melo earns his money, while trying to compete with the knicks, thats his destiny... thats our destiny. accept that

[ag3]

Why would we tank with Melo, Lopez + KP and $65 million in cap space the next 2 seasons.

No way.