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Capn'O wrote:tuna108 wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Get your **** right. He's the Giannis of point guards.
My bad, you are right. CMFGB blew this pick! He should get credit but when he screws up, we need to call it
You know, I honestly can't right now...
You're right. He blew it.
Knicksfan20 wrote:How? Everybody wanted DSJR. People were high on Mitchell, but nobody wanted him with our 8. It was DSJR vs Frank.
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:How? Everybody wanted DSJR. People were high on Mitchell, but nobody wanted him with our 8. It was DSJR vs Frank.
Mitchell had his fans on here, and I definitely remember posters who would have been good with Frank or Mitchell, but I don't recall anyone beating the drums for him, other than two or three guys.
I wonder if Pistons, Hornets, Kings and Mavs fans beat themselves up the same way. Well, not the Mavs, since DSJr is so awesome.
Clearly he's better than Frank now and probably always. Too bad guys will post about it for the next 10 years.
I can barely give a sh*t who we draft next year, as half the board will hate the guy eventually anyway, just a matter of how long it takes. But no more than two seasons. Even if it's Donic or Bagley or whoever.
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:How? Everybody wanted DSJR. People were high on Mitchell, but nobody wanted him with our 8. It was DSJR vs Frank.
Mitchell had his fans on here, and I definitely remember posters who would have been good with Frank or Mitchell, but I don't recall anyone beating the drums for him, other than two or three guys.
I wonder if Pistons, Hornets, Kings and Mavs fans beat themselves up the same way. Well, not the Mavs, since DSJr is so awesome.
Clearly he's better than Frank now and probably always. Too bad guys will post about it for the next 10 years.
I can barely give a sh*t who we draft next year, as half the board will hate the guy eventually anyway, just a matter of how long it takes. But no more than two seasons. Even if it's Donic or Bagley or whoever.
We also face the Kings twice in the near future. I think it's time Yabu pays back some of that free money he's been given his entire career and bounces Fox for a nice 2 week ankle sprain.
JohnWillow wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:How? Everybody wanted DSJR. People were high on Mitchell, but nobody wanted him with our 8. It was DSJR vs Frank.
Mitchell had his fans on here, and I definitely remember posters who would have been good with Frank or Mitchell, but I don't recall anyone beating the drums for him, other than two or three guys.
I wonder if Pistons, Hornets, Kings and Mavs fans beat themselves up the same way. Well, not the Mavs, since DSJr is so awesome.
Clearly he's better than Frank now and probably always. Too bad guys will post about it for the next 10 years.
I can barely give a sh*t who we draft next year, as half the board will hate the guy eventually anyway, just a matter of how long it takes. But no more than two seasons. Even if it's Donic or Bagley or whoever.
No Fox has been awesome lately, maybe with the 10th pick which we traded at the draft day, Kings could take Mitchell, but the deal is, he is an SG and Kings had Buddy, Bogdanovich at the shooting guard position, so it did not make sense for the Kings to draft Mitchell at the time, Kings needed SF.
I'm only angry that kings picked Justin Jackson over OG Anunoby tbh.
seren wrote:Lakers and Nets how no incentive to tank. Charlotte is on a mini run. If we try a bit harder, we can go as high as 8th pick. You never know with the lottery. I believe Cavs won it twice with similar odds.
thebuzzardman wrote:seren wrote:Lakers and Nets how no incentive to tank. Charlotte is on a mini run. If we try a bit harder, we can go as high as 8th pick. You never know with the lottery. I believe Cavs won it twice with similar odds.
8th pick. Another Frank level player. Can't wait.
Knicksfan20 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:seren wrote:Lakers and Nets how no incentive to tank. Charlotte is on a mini run. If we try a bit harder, we can go as high as 8th pick. You never know with the lottery. I believe Cavs won it twice with similar odds.
8th pick. Another Frank level player. Can't wait.
This year is stacked at forward which is a huge position of need. We will get quality up until the 10th pick or so.
Frank should be fine, he just turned 19. Mitchell is 21. Frank out measures Mitchell by a lot. Give the kid 2-3 nba seasons before we completely dog him. I think Frank will be a good NBA player.
Knicksfan20 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:How? Everybody wanted DSJR. People were high on Mitchell, but nobody wanted him with our 8. It was DSJR vs Frank.
Mitchell had his fans on here, and I definitely remember posters who would have been good with Frank or Mitchell, but I don't recall anyone beating the drums for him, other than two or three guys.
I wonder if Pistons, Hornets, Kings and Mavs fans beat themselves up the same way. Well, not the Mavs, since DSJr is so awesome.
Clearly he's better than Frank now and probably always. Too bad guys will post about it for the next 10 years.
I can barely give a sh*t who we draft next year, as half the board will hate the guy eventually anyway, just a matter of how long it takes. But no more than two seasons. Even if it's Donic or Bagley or whoever.
I don’t remember anybody wanting Mitchell at 8. He had his fans, I liked dude a lot also, but at pick 8 95% of the board was with Frank or DS.
With that said, Mitchell is like 3 years older then frank.
Knicksfan20 wrote:2 years is still a long time. Frank is also still growing and familiarizing himself with the NBA game.
HEZI wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
Mitchell had his fans on here, and I definitely remember posters who would have been good with Frank or Mitchell, but I don't recall anyone beating the drums for him, other than two or three guys.
I wonder if Pistons, Hornets, Kings and Mavs fans beat themselves up the same way. Well, not the Mavs, since DSJr is so awesome.
Clearly he's better than Frank now and probably always. Too bad guys will post about it for the next 10 years.
I can barely give a sh*t who we draft next year, as half the board will hate the guy eventually anyway, just a matter of how long it takes. But no more than two seasons. Even if it's Donic or Bagley or whoever.
I don’t remember anybody wanting Mitchell at 8. He had his fans, I liked dude a lot also, but at pick 8 95% of the board was with Frank or DS.
With that said, Mitchell is like 3 years older then frank.
I think it was just myself and NYKFatboy. He's only 2 years older, dude was still only 20 years old back in June.
Red Vines wrote:I think some are forgetting how sloppy Frank got with his passing again at the end of his run. Credit to him he knows our plays but he's still not a drive and kick PG and his WNBA layups won't cut it.
OpiumDose wrote:K-DOT wrote:OpiumDose wrote:THJ with an impressive 2/24 from the field in the last 2 games. There were few people here that when talking about how amazing THJ has actually been for us, were using his numbers in all the games except those first 4 in which he was absolute trash (obviously, excluding those games when talking about the statistics was cherry-picking at it's finest) - so are those apologists going to exclude these past 2 games too? The truth is that THJ is streaky and always has been - so it's especially important to look at the whole picture (all the stats available) when talking about his performances and not pick and choose games that prove your point better. I personally didn't like the signing (for the money that he got) when it happened, and I still don't like it today - if player like THJ (who was bench player in Atlanta and was even sent down to G-League) is suppose to be our 2nd option on the offense then we are in big trouble. I don't see him as a core piece for a good (or especially really good) team - he is a sixth man at best on such a team.
- Uses 2 game sample size to come to a conclusion about player
- Complains about people cherry picking by omitting the first 4 games
You are confused because you clearly lack reading ability. I'm not using 2 game sample size to come to any conclusion about player. I just thought it would be a good time to talk about it now as I remember just a little while ago there were talks here that THJ is not only worth his signing, but probably worth even more and when his numbers were brought up by some sane people then the defense was "let's not count those first 4 games". As I said - THJ is a streaky player - and it's not this "2 game sample size" that proves it - there are plenty of these "streaks" in his career - go look them up - there's one at the start of the season with Knicks of length of 4 piss poor games. Let's look at his season (and career) shooting percentages - how's that for sample size for you? all of his shooting percentages (for season and for career) are below league average. This season he is taking 7.1 3pt per game and not making even 33% of those. Some people say he is suppose to be clutch, but tonight was not the first time (this season) that he has chocked on the free throw line in the last minutes of the game by missing not one, but both shots. His defense - take as large sample size as you wish, his defense has always been below average (net negative) and nothing has changed in that matter. Also pointing out facts that he was bench player on Atlanta (and sent to G-League) has nothing to do with sample size. In fact nothing I said I based on small sample size. The only thing my post has to do with small sample sizes is the timing and calling out those who were cherry picking games to prove a point. If you can (by statistics) prove to me that THJ is not a streaky, highly inefficient shooter with bad defense then go ahead - I'm all ears. Until then - in my opinion he was not (and is not, and will not ever be) worth the ridiculous money that was given to him (seems like in hope that he would miraculously suddenly become a sidekick to KP for the future).
Knicksfan20 wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:seren wrote:Lakers and Nets how no incentive to tank. Charlotte is on a mini run. If we try a bit harder, we can go as high as 8th pick. You never know with the lottery. I believe Cavs won it twice with similar odds.
8th pick. Another Frank level player. Can't wait.
This year is stacked at forward which is a huge position of need. We will get quality up until the 10th pick or so.
Frank should be fine, he just turned 19. Mitchell is 21. Frank out measures Mitchell by a lot. Give the kid 2-3 nba seasons before we completely dog him. I think Frank will be a good NBA player.
