2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it?

[will]

Real talk, Kemba needs to join the Knicks.

Not stay with sorry ass Charlotte.

The Knicks are still a sorry team, but hot damn...Kemba would absolutely light up MSG.


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Kemba's career salary earnings so far are $58,199,401. Assuming Charlotte offer him the maximum they can and the Knicks do the same he has a choice between $190m over 5 years at Charlotte or $141m over 4 years at the Knicks. Which would you take?

Contrast: Irving to date $95m, Butler to date $74m.

Kemba comes back home to NY.
Them earnings through endorsements. Playing in NY. As a point guard. All while being able to lift the Knicks back to respektability and beyond.

But hey, the bag is the bag.

He can have it both ways playing for the Knicks.

[br7knicks]

Where’s this fantasy world where ppl are taking less than the max?

What’s Butler max?

Same as Kyrie: $32.7m. And he'll get it, too.

unfortunately i think they're right. his max is high, and he'll get it wherever he wants to go. his age also worries me.


but he's one of the few FA who are actually worth the max this off season. KD, kawhi, and butler.


but unfortunately, guys like kyrie, klay, cousins, etc will end up getting the max, too.

doesn't hurt to try for him though.

[br7knicks]

Read on Twitter

I want brogdan. He or Rubio would be ideal PGs

Brogdan is my man! I want that dude over Kyrie by a mile. Hear that shammgod? NO KYRIE!

And you will like it.

#Overpay4Brogdon

i'd take brogdan at ~20 million over a maxed out kyrie 101 times out of 100, all day, every day.

[robillionaire]

Real talk, Kemba needs to join the Knicks.

Not stay with sorry ass Charlotte.

The Knicks are still a sorry team, but hot damn...Kemba would absolutely light up MSG.


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Kemba's career salary earnings so far are $58,199,401. Assuming Charlotte offer him the maximum they can and the Knicks do the same he has a choice between $190m over 5 years at Charlotte or $141m over 4 years at the Knicks. Which would you take?

Contrast: Irving to date $95m, Butler to date $74m.

Actually Charlotte can offer him the super max which I believe would be 5 yrs 221m

[br7knicks]

Let Kyrie go to the nets.

DSJR / Frank
Butler / Trier
KD / Barrett
Morris /Knox
Mitch / DJ

That's probablyy favorite hypothetical lineup anyone has posted this far.

Mainly because there's no Kyrie. But I like me some Butler.

I'd be okay with

Dsjr/frank
Barret/dotson
Butler/whoever
KD/morris
Mitch/whoever

For the whoevers, I'd hope the Knicks will move Knox and Trier for someone who fits a better defensive and winning style of play. Then there's the MLE, unless you were thinking Morris would take that.

Morris or Jordan would have to take the MLE. I believe both would rather sign with elsewhere.

you're probably right.

but i think if you get KD and butler on board, someone like jordan/morris would be more than happy to sign for the MLE.

[Richard4444]

Real talk, Kemba needs to join the Knicks.

Not stay with sorry ass Charlotte.

The Knicks are still a sorry team, but hot damn...Kemba would absolutely light up MSG.


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Kemba's career salary earnings so far are $58,199,401. Assuming Charlotte offer him the maximum they can and the Knicks do the same he has a choice between $190m over 5 years at Charlotte or $141m over 4 years at the Knicks. Which would you take?

Contrast: Irving to date $95m, Butler to date $74m.

Kemba can now receive the a 221M Supermax offer from Charlotte. I think he will demand that to stay.

[will]

I would love to see a backcourt with Frank Nitkiulionlnska and Dante Exum.

[taj2133]

I would love to see a backcourt with Frank Nitkiulionlnska and Dante Exum.

no thanks

[Richard4444]

That's probablyy favorite hypothetical lineup anyone has posted this far.

Mainly because there's no Kyrie. But I like me some Butler.

I'd be okay with

Dsjr/frank
Barret/dotson
Butler/whoever
KD/morris
Mitch/whoever

For the whoevers, I'd hope the Knicks will move Knox and Trier for someone who fits a better defensive and winning style of play. Then there's the MLE, unless you were thinking Morris would take that.

Morris or Jordan would have to take the MLE. I believe both would rather sign with elsewhere.

you're probably right.

but i think if you get KD and butler on board, someone like jordan/morris would be more than happy to sign for the MLE.

I have my doubts about this ring chasers narrative. The GSW bench is very ordinary (saving Iguodala). If players prefer rings to money, why didnt veterans signed with GSW this past year for the minimum?

[will]

I would love to see a backcourt with Frank Nitkiulionlnska and Dante Exum.

no thanks

It was a pure troll on my part.

[dakomish23]

If CHA is going to go all in on keeping Kemba, they need to start dumping salary by using their picks. Some of their guys are serviceable, so they might be able to move them for little or nothing at all. But some are gonna cost multiple assets.

[newyorker4ever]

Read on Twitter

I want brogdan. He or Rubio would be ideal PGs

Brogdan is my man! I want that dude over Kyrie by a mile. Hear that shammgod? NO KYRIE!

And you will like it.

#Overpay4Brogdon

You need to learn how to spell your man's name right...

[HarthorneWingo]

I want brogdan. He or Rubio would be ideal PGs

Brogdan is my man! I want that dude over Kyrie by a mile. Hear that shammgod? NO KYRIE!

And you will like it.

#Overpay4Brogdon

You need to learn how to spell your man's name right...

Bogdan? This is the guy I want

Spoiler:

[Knick4Real]

Smith and protected 1st for Bamba

Both Durant and Butler take 2-3M less so we can resign both Mario and Vonleh, while saving the MLE for a veteran PG like Rondo, Rubio or Collison

Frank / Rondo / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Mario
Butler / Dotson / Melo
Durant / Knox / Vonleh
Mitch / Bamba / Kornet

I’d be embarrassed to ask the best player in the world to take less than the max so we could fit two dudes who wouldn’t even be in the rotation. Durant - or anyone else - is already leaving money on the table just by picking NY over his current team.

I wonder if Knicks should ask Durant to give a 130K discount (600K in 4 years) to sign his body Trier and Dotson (awesome contract) without trade anyone. Because I am worried if Durant get offended by that.

Ask to Durant to give more than 500K/year of discount is preposterous!!

This would be all too easy to do since money "laundering" in sports happens all the time.

1) KNICKS get KD to take a discount
2) KNICKS pay Spike Lee a million dollars to speak to players
3) Spike Lee hires KD for a million dollars to speak to Brooklyn youth.
4) KNICKS have successfully funneled an extra million to KD to make up for any discount.

[HarthorneWingo]

I want brogdan. He or Rubio would be ideal PGs

Brogdan is my man! I want that dude over Kyrie by a mile. Hear that shammgod? NO KYRIE!

And you will like it.

#Overpay4Brogdon

i'd take brogdan at ~20 million over a maxed out kyrie 101 times out of 100, all day, every day.

I'd pull the trigger on that deal in a NY second.

[knickstape4ever]

Real talk, Kemba needs to join the Knicks.

Not stay with sorry ass Charlotte.

The Knicks are still a sorry team, but hot damn...Kemba would absolutely light up MSG.


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Kemba's career salary earnings so far are $58,199,401. Assuming Charlotte offer him the maximum they can and the Knicks do the same he has a choice between $190m over 5 years at Charlotte or $141m over 4 years at the Knicks. Which would you take?

Contrast: Irving to date $95m, Butler to date $74m.

I dont like to knock guys for taking more $ (never do when it comes to the NFL) but I think that if I were in the same position as Kemba, I would take take the less money to go to NY b/c 1) opportunity to win 2) hometown team 3) better endorsement opportunities in NY than CHA 4) legacy would increase in NY (if he won)

also, he's gonna get paid a TON of money either way and is already a well-off, so I would take the better opportunity than the better pay day

[Besart19]

Smith and Dotson for Warren

Our 17-man roster

Gasol, Parsons off waivers, Korver and Vince for the minimum, Melo for the BAE... Kemba and KD both with the super-max

Kemba / Frank / Allen
RJ / Trier / Vince / #55
Durant / Knox / Korver
Warren / Melo / Parsons
Mitch / DJ / Pau / Kornet

Plenty of options on the table!

The AD trade only in mid season if we wont be enough good to be clear fav in the East

[newyorker4ever]

What’s Butler max?

Same as Kyrie: $32.7m. And he'll get it, too.

unfortunately i think they're right. his max is high, and he'll get it wherever he wants to go. his age also worries me.


but he's one of the few FA who are actually worth the max this off season. KD, kawhi, and butler.


but unfortunately, guys like kyrie, klay, cousins, etc will end up getting the max, too.

doesn't hurt to try for him though.

Cousins? I don't think he gets a max with these last couple of injuries he's had.

[knickstape4ever]

Has ESPN still not replaced Begley? pretty critical time to be missing a beat writer

[Tron Carter]

20 mill a year for brogdan. yup we’ve reached the twilight zone.