2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 2)

[BugginOut]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

Every single one of these teams had an All-Star level PG/Ball-handler, which we haven’t had in 20 years.

[jvsimonetti0514]

When Cole comes back he better light it up cuz there's no way I'm taking him top 5 right now. He's not really a good playmaker, struggles in the half court, and shooting under 40% from the field. Lets hope LaMelo can learn to shoot, it seems like Lonzo has learned this year so maybe there's hope for him too. He's not a bad free throw shooter and has nice touch on floaters. I feel like I need to start watching highlights from some of the forwards cuz Halliburton is the only guard I like so far.

[TheGreenArrow]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

I would look to trade down at that point and hope someone else likes Cole enough to give you something better. I believe there's a team projected to have a couple late lottery picks. Can't remember which one.

Who would you target if there was a trade down say into the 11-to 14 range??

[E-Balla]

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

I would look to trade down at that point and hope someone else likes Cole enough to give you something better. I believe there's a team projected to have a couple late lottery picks. Can't remember which one.

Who would you target if there was a trade down say into the 11-to 14 range??

I'd say there'd be a big target on Perry and Mills.

[BugginOut]

Seems Like Lamelo slowly becoming the #1 pick on most draft boards since everyone else in this class sucks. So if we want to be in a position to pick him we need to get real lucky in the lottery.

Hopefully we might get a chance to pick him if say we get 3rd and teams that don’t need a PG like Golden State or the Hawks are in front of us.

[Marty McFly]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

I hate this logic. For that matter the Blazers should've taken Thompson over Bird because at that point centers won in the league.

except, that's not why he fell to 6. he wanted to go back to college.

[Marty McFly]

I'm honestly glad there doesn't seem to be a consensus #1 as of this moment, considering the agony of missing out on Zion last draft.

[2010]

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

He got too much sauce for you. You prefer your Franks without condiments.

Spoiler:

[2010]

He raised his stock all he could. Time to lock himself in a gym until draft time and work on that jumper.

Broham. Bless me wit your big board. Top 7

[Marty McFly]

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

He got too much sauce for you. You prefer your Franks without condiments.

Spoiler:

Just think of all the meme possibilities of a backcourt with Frank and Ball.

[moocow007]

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

I would look to trade down at that point and hope someone else likes Cole enough to give you something better. I believe there's a team projected to have a couple late lottery picks. Can't remember which one.

Who would you target if there was a trade down say into the 11-to 14 range??

Tyrese Haliburton and Onyeka Okongwu. NBADRAFT.NET currently has them going 11 and 14 respectively. Smart, high IQ, long, athletic, quick twitch, highly competitive players with offensive and defensive projectibility. They may not turn into superstars but they are the type of players that winning teams have. I can see both guys being guys that Masai Ujiri would run out there on the Raptors, for example. You get these types of guys, you add them to RJ Barrett and what you minimally have is a bunch of young guys that have talent on both sides that make smart moves, always plays hard and physical. A whole lot more attractive if you plan on attracting a big name star (which I do very much believe is always going to be in the Knicks perception).

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

So yeah, if the 'big 3' of Edwards, Wiseman and Ball are gone I would rather move down. Those are the only 3 guys that I would take on the chance that they can turn into stars/superstars which, obviously, this team needs. If not, then I'd try to trade down and get my team some guys like Haliburton and Okongwu.

[2010]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

Haliburton is better than Cole. Nico is too. Cole is before Maxey Priest.

[2010]

Fk-A-Coleslaw

...wet cabbage ass dude.

[robillionaire]

I would look to trade down at that point and hope someone else likes Cole enough to give you something better. I believe there's a team projected to have a couple late lottery picks. Can't remember which one.

Who would you target if there was a trade down say into the 11-to 14 range??

Tyrese Haliburton and Onyeka Okongwu. NBADRAFT.NET currently has them going 11 and 14 respectively. Smart, high IQ, long, athletic, quick twitch, highly competitive players with offensive and defensive projectibility. They may not turn into superstars but they are the type of players that winning teams have. I can see both guys being guys that Masai Ujiri would run out there on the Raptors, for example. You get these types of guys, you add them to RJ Barrett and what you minimally have is a bunch of young guys that have talent on both sides that make smart moves, always plays hard and physical. A whole lot more attractive if you plan on attracting a big name star (which I do very much believe is always going to be in the Knicks perception).

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

So yeah, if the 'big 3' of Edwards, Wiseman and Ball are gone I would rather move down. Those are the only 3 guys that I would take on the chance that they can turn into stars/superstars which, obviously, this team needs. If not, then I'd try to trade down and get my team some guys like Haliburton and Okongwu.

NBADraft.net as always is behind on the times having them at 11 and 14. The word is already out. Tankathon has Haliburton 5th and Okongwu 4th. One or both could even be top 3 by the time the season ends. You aren't trading down to get both.

http://www.tankathon.com/big_board

[moocow007]

Who would you target if there was a trade down say into the 11-to 14 range??

Tyrese Haliburton and Onyeka Okongwu. NBADRAFT.NET currently has them going 11 and 14 respectively. Smart, high IQ, long, athletic, quick twitch, highly competitive players with offensive and defensive projectibility. They may not turn into superstars but they are the type of players that winning teams have. I can see both guys being guys that Masai Ujiri would run out there on the Raptors, for example. You get these types of guys, you add them to RJ Barrett and what you minimally have is a bunch of young guys that have talent on both sides that make smart moves, always plays hard and physical. A whole lot more attractive if you plan on attracting a big name star (which I do very much believe is always going to be in the Knicks perception).

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

So yeah, if the 'big 3' of Edwards, Wiseman and Ball are gone I would rather move down. Those are the only 3 guys that I would take on the chance that they can turn into stars/superstars which, obviously, this team needs. If not, then I'd try to trade down and get my team some guys like Haliburton and Okongwu.

NBADraft.net as always is behind on the times having them at 11 and 14. The word is already out. Tankathon has Haliburton 5th and Okongwu 4th. You aren't trading down to get both.

Ok...then Jaden McDaniels and Tyrese Maxey.

You're missing the point I think.

The point is that I don't believe that Cole Anthony is the type of player that the Knicks team at this point needs to go where they need to go. Cole Anthony to me can probably be an inefficient volume scoring no.1 option on some team that won't ever likely win anything. Do the Knicks need that? I don't think so.

I also like Vernon Carey, Joel Ayayi, Tre Jones, Paul Reed and Tyler Bey.

And if the Knicks land at 4 I'd be looking to find if the 5th or 6th place team is in love with Cole Anthony enough for them to give me something else to move up a spot or two.

IMO once you get past the 3 guys at the top, it's really a matter of what you think you might be looking for and would fit better with what you are trying to do. I would not sit on the 4th pick (which I'm pretty sure is the assumption here). I would look to see if anyone is really interested in Cole Anthony and is willing to move up and give me something for it.

[robillionaire]

Seems Like Lamelo slowly becoming the #1 pick on most draft boards since everyone else in this class sucks. So if we want to be in a position to pick him we need to get real lucky in the lottery.

Hopefully we might get a chance to pick him if say we get 3rd and teams that don’t need a PG like Golden State or the Hawks are in front of us.

I'm leaning toward trading a future 1st either ours or Dallas in order to move up and draft LaMelo if we strike out in the lottery

[TheScout31]

When Cole comes back he better light it up cuz there's no way I'm taking him top 5 right now. He's not really a good playmaker, struggles in the half court, and shooting under 40% from the field. Lets hope LaMelo can learn to shoot, it seems like Lonzo has learned this year so maybe there's hope for him too. He's not a bad free throw shooter and has nice touch on floaters. I feel like I need to start watching highlights from some of the forwards cuz Halliburton is the only guard I like so far.

Cole is shooting poorly from the field because he's driving (and shooting) at the rim against crowded paints and because he's UNC's entire offense. Was watching all of his drives a few days ago and the lack of spacing (and **** offensive scheme from Roy Williams) is appalling. Sure, he's missing open passing lanes, but the FG% is not indicative of the type of shooter (or finisher) he is in reality.

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

The horrible shooting form, forced passes (though, relative to the looks he gets off, it's kind of small), pre-determining he's going to drive before reading the defense, poor defense, poor shot selection?

There's plenty to dislike about Ball, but he's in that Luka tier of passing level.

[TheGreenArrow]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

Haliburton is better than Cole. Nico is too. Cole is before Maxey Priest.

Nico yeah i could see,haliburton im not high on i think his game is really basic,nothing stands out with him but i could live with him but maxey is a hard pass for me.

[2010]

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

Haliburton is better than Cole. Nico is too. Cole is before Maxey Priest.

Nico yeah i could see,haliburton im not high on i think his game is really basic,nothing stands out with him but i could live with him but maxey is a hard pass for me.

You sleeping on Haliburton. His game has very few holes in it. He is climbing the draft boards. He can shoot. His release is unorthodox but quick as hell. He has great court vision. He is very high IQ. He can defend. He can get out on the break and make good decisions in the open court. He has good size. His weakness is, his handle can improve, and he is not dynamic off the dribble. But this kid is a winning player.

[Marty McFly]

Seems Like Lamelo slowly becoming the #1 pick on most draft boards since everyone else in this class sucks. So if we want to be in a position to pick him we need to get real lucky in the lottery.

Hopefully we might get a chance to pick him if say we get 3rd and teams that don’t need a PG like Golden State or the Hawks are in front of us.

I'm leaning toward trading a future 1st either ours or Dallas in order to move up and draft LaMelo if we strike out in the lottery

With Emoni Bates wanting to reclassify for 2021?