2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

[HarthorneWingo]

Haliburton isn’t a PG guys. Maybe he is if your 2 guard is like Oladipo, but he’s not a pure point.

I don't want - and we don't need - someone who's going to pound the rock for 15 seconds either. We already have DSJ. Here's the test: Who would San Antonio pick if they had our pick?

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

[moocow007]

any thoughts on desmond bane or paul reed? 2 guys knicks could target with the later picks

I've been mentioning Paul Reed for awhile now. I would not be surprised at all if Reed goes in the tail end of the lottery actually. Definitely dont see him being around by the Clippers pick no way. Reed is a competitive mofo that has a natural feel for where he needs to be on both ends of the floor. He has a nice shooting touch and a snake like ability to work his way to the basket. He defends, he boards, blocks shots, he dives for the ball, he's not afraid to mix things up, has a strong, rangy athletic frame, a giant 7'2" wingspan and big hands.

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[moocow007]

We will find out soon enough. Cole and Kira will probably be up at the same time as soon as a few more of the top names come off the board.

Once Wiseman is off the board, things should start to get really interesting. So get them votes in for him

we shall see after Hayes wins #3 how many people will switch that vote to Deni? Maybe OO?

Double O has the realistic potential of being the best player in this draft.

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[Fat]

I don't want - and we don't need - someone who's going to pound the rock for 15 seconds either. We already have DSJ. Here's the test: Who would San Antonio pick if they had our pick?

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

Its a good chance Edwards, wiseman, lamelo, toppin, and Deni or Hayes might be the first five to go.


So I think hailburton , Cole, and one of Hayes or Deni might be the most realistic scenarios for the Knicks at 6-8. I would take Hayes or Deni if either are There

[HarthorneWingo]

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

Its a good chance Edwards, wiseman, lamelo, toppin, and Deni or Hayes might be the first five to go.

So I think hailburton , Cole, and one lof Hayes or Deni might be the most realistic scenario for the Knicks at 6-8. I would take Hayes or Deni if they are there

I was intrigued with Deni in the beginning but then I started getting that Mario vibe. But I think you identified the right group.

Well, we only have about four more months to ruminate about it. lol

[HarthorneWingo]

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

Its a good chance Edwards, wiseman, lamelo, toppin, and Deni or Hayes might be the first five to go.

So I think hailburton , Cole, and one lof Hayes or Deni might be the most realistic scenario for the Knicks at 6-8. I would take Hayes or Deni if they are there

I was intrigued with Deni in the beginning but then I started getting that Mario vibe. But I think you identified the right group.

Well, we only have about four more months to ruminate about it. lol

[aggo]

I think deni has way more lateral agility that Mario did. tape on tape deni moved around a lot more than Mario.

Mario's tape was like 50% being just a spot up shooter iirc.

[HarthorneWingo]

I think deni has way more lateral agility that Mario did. tape on tape deni moved around a lot more than Mario.

Mario's tape was like 50% being just a spot up shooter iirc.

That's good news. Who would you compare him to?

[Fat]

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

Its a good chance Edwards, wiseman, lamelo, toppin, and Deni or Hayes might be the first five to go.

So I think hailburton , Cole, and one lof Hayes or Deni might be the most realistic scenario for the Knicks at 6-8. I would take Hayes or Deni if they are there

I was intrigued with Deni in the beginning but then I started getting that Mario vibe. But I think you identified the right group.

Well, we only have about four more months to ruminate about it. lol

Yeah I’ve warmed up to Deni. I don’t really see nothing he’s elite at but he has the tools to be a point forward that can defend and shoot. Idk if he makes it to that he may be more of a gallanari ish type of guy that can space the floor, put the ball on the floor and get to the line while playing some small ball 4.

[Tornelyus]

I don't want - and we don't need - someone who's going to pound the rock for 15 seconds either. We already have DSJ. Here's the test: Who would San Antonio pick if they had our pick?

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

What about Vassell? Better defender, better athlete and better shooter than most in the draft. Fits perfect to any team.
PG was selected after Wesley (Edwards?), Evan Turner (Hayes??), Monroe, Udoh and Aminu. Klay was selected after Jimmer, Kanter, Brandon Knight. He has the similar potential to be one of the best (if not the best) players in this draft.

[robillionaire]

I don't want - and we don't need - someone who's going to pound the rock for 15 seconds either. We already have DSJ. Here's the test: Who would San Antonio pick if they had our pick?

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

okoro

[Mecca]

Haliburton isn’t a PG guys. Maybe he is if your 2 guard is like Oladipo, but he’s not a pure point.

I don't want - and we don't need - someone who's going to pound the rock for 15 seconds either. We already have DSJ. Here's the test: Who would San Antonio pick if they had our pick?

Killian or Deni prob

[mpharris36]

who switched there pick from Killian to Wiseman LOL...

did Melo pay you?

[3toheadmelo]

who switched there pick from Killian to Wiseman LOL...

did Melo pay you?

You thought Hayes was gonna win this easy huh

[CoreyVillains]

I have a feeling Terry will go right before the Knicks second pick but he’s a guy I’ve seen some Knicks fans talk about. I really enjoyed watching and breaking down Terry’s game. I wish he played with a little more of that Steph/Trae swag and confidently jacked up some more off the bounce threes but regardless that stroke is sweet. I think if he has the ball in his hands more at the next level he’s gonna be a better passer than he showed at Stanford.

Watch on YouTube

[Zenzibar]

DSJ pounds the ball 15 seconds we suck
Frank pounds the ball 5 seconds we suck

Hailburton is good if you keep him locked within his role of being catch and shoot 3 point shooter, ball mover and defender. The rest of his game is very dubious for a starting point guard & 2 free throw attempts in 36MPG of action with low scoring output is pretty alarming, also take into account this is as a Sophmore.



The fact he doesn't get to the line to go along with average to below average on ball creativity skills excluding pick and rolls is kind of a turn off. he screams solid role player that can be a elite role player in the right system with a winning formula.

i wouldnt mind him because this draft is booty and theres really no telling who turns out to be what so he is one of the safer picks and still brings some traits the knicks could still use like the 3 point shooting and defense but i got guys like lamelo, hayes & deni easily ahead of him if were talking overall talent and potential

I don’t disagree with your points but he’s a very well rounded player who would fit in very nicely with out team. He doesn’t have the tools to improve in those areas? What about the college system he had to play in?

Maybe we find a PG via a different path? Who else do you want at 6-8? Please don’t tell me Cole.

okoro

I'm gonna reach here and say that Walt Perrin may find this years Donovan Mitchell in Aaron Nesmith or Tyrell Terry (edited based on latest contribution from CoreyVillains). Not in terms of parallel games but in value, especially if the top guards are already gone: LaMelo or Killian.

[Zenzibar]

I have a feeling Terry will go right before the Knicks second pick but he’s a guy I’ve seen some Knicks fans talk about. I really enjoyed watching and breaking down Terry’s game. I wish he played with a little more of that Steph/Trae swag and confidently jacked up some more off the bounce threes but regardless that stroke is sweet. I think if he has the ball in his hands more at the next level he’s gonna be a better passer than he showed at Stanford.

Watch on YouTube

Yooo, this kid is freakishly a Steph clone!

[mpharris36]

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30 mins before this vote ends and we move onto pick #4

[Zenzibar]

I have a feeling Terry will go right before the Knicks second pick but he’s a guy I’ve seen some Knicks fans talk about. I really enjoyed watching and breaking down Terry’s game. I wish he played with a little more of that Steph/Trae swag and confidently jacked up some more off the bounce threes but regardless that stroke is sweet. I think if he has the ball in his hands more at the next level he’s gonna be a better passer than he showed at Stanford.

Watch on YouTube

SOLD


My new new new , #1 pick.

Watch on YouTube

[Strick]

My personal preference for PG rankings (partially influenced based off of how I think they’d fit our young core) would be 1) LaMelo 2) Hayes 3) Tyrell Terry 4) Kira Lewis 5) Haliburton 6) Cole Anthony

im not sure what terry will be in the NBA i kind of see him playing a seth curry like role but with more room to grow as a playmaker.

Would definitely take him at 27 if he's on board.. wouldnt mind trading up for him either if he's reachable

That’s kind of what I see him being as a more back to reality comp. I’d consider him if we slid in the lotto but ideally we would be able to get him with the Clippers pick or able to trade to like 18 or something and get him. He’ll be a liability on defense more than likely but he has great b-ball IQ so he might become serviceable on that side with some added strength.

I do think a lineup of Him, Frank, and RJ would be fun. Three guys that can handle the ball but wouldn’t need to handle it full time. Ideally Frank and RJ continue to improve their shooting and their defense will help limit the weaknesses of Terry on that end (especially with someone like Mitch protecting the rim).

Obviously not my favorite outcome but a lineup of something like Terry/Frank/RJ/Deni/Mitch would be fun. Would have 4 guys who can handle the ball and if they could all get respectable at shooting they would be able to really put some pressure on defenses from 3, and have a great lob threat in Mitch