2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

[thebuzzardman]

Who do you like more between Moody and Bouknight?

Personally I think Moody is the safer bet. But I do acknowledge Bouknight's offensive talents as a 3 level scorer. Although I have questioned how he'd fit into a team concept offensively. He could end up being as dynamic as a Donovan Mitchell or possibly just a 6th man type. But he's worth the gamble at this point. So if the situation held as it is right now, I'd hope to get both.

6th Bouknight
10th Moody (gamble that he's still on the board)

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

I believe the Knicks only have the one pick in the 2nd round, where theirs is still gone (Philly?) but they backfilled with Detroit's.

[knickstape4ever]

Personally I think Moody is the safer bet. But I do acknowledge Bouknight's offensive talents as a 3 level scorer. Although I have questioned how he'd fit into a team concept offensively. He could end up being as dynamic as a Donovan Mitchell or possibly just a 6th man type. But he's worth the gamble at this point. So if the situation held as it is right now, I'd hope to get both.

6th Bouknight
10th Moody (gamble that he's still on the board)

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

I believe the Knicks only have the one pick in the 2nd round, where theirs is still gone (Philly?) but they backfilled with Detroit's.

we've got 2. the 2nd is from the Hornets

[RHODEY]

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

I believe the Knicks only have the one pick in the 2nd round, where theirs is still gone (Philly?) but they backfilled with Detroit's.

we've got 2. the 2nd is from the Hornets

yep

[2010]

Who do you like more between Moody and Bouknight?

Personally I think Moody is the safer bet. But I do acknowledge Bouknight's offensive talents as a 3 level scorer. Although I have questioned how he'd fit into a team concept offensively. He could end up being as dynamic as a Donovan Mitchell or possibly just a 6th man type. But he's worth the gamble at this point. So if the situation held as it is right now, I'd hope to get both.

6th Bouknight
10th Moody (gamble that he's still on the board)

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

When comparing Moody's body to a guy like Ziaire, it becomes evident that he actually has a frame that will fill out well. Look at Ziaire, he is very narrow across the shoulders and stands mad upright and erect. I doubt Ziaire will ever be able to carry much weight or bulk up to handle serious contact at the rim. I see Moody has squared high shoulders and I think he'll physically mature well and faster than Ziaire. I kinda peg Ziaire's body type as similar to a Rip Hamilton or Corey Brewer. Moody I view as in the Allan Houston prototype. Both physically and in playing style.

[HEZI]

Personally I think Moody is the safer bet. But I do acknowledge Bouknight's offensive talents as a 3 level scorer. Although I have questioned how he'd fit into a team concept offensively. He could end up being as dynamic as a Donovan Mitchell or possibly just a 6th man type. But he's worth the gamble at this point. So if the situation held as it is right now, I'd hope to get both.

6th Bouknight
10th Moody (gamble that he's still on the board)

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

When comparing Moody's body to a guy like Ziaire, it becomes evident that he actually has a frame that will fill out well. Look at Ziaire, he is very narrow across the shoulders and stands mad upright and erect. I doubt Ziaire will ever be able to carry much weight or bulk up to handle serious contact at the rim. I see Moody has squared high shoulders and I think he'll physically mature well and faster than Ziaire. I kinda peg Ziaire's body type as similar to a Rip Hamilton or Corey Brewer. Moody I view as in the Allan Houston prototype. Both physically and in playing style.

Zaire gives me Culver vibes, I'm cautious about him

[TerrenceClarke]

As I said before Moody screams pro. To me he is one of the safest bets in the top 10. His game will easily translate to the NBA. A duo of him and RJ at the wings is extremely solid. Moody would easily be our Zone buster. The Knicks need Moodys game more so than a Zaire, or Bouknight imo. The odds are Randle will still be here next year, and him an RJ will dominate a lot of the ball usage. moody is extremely effective with low usage. Not sure JB can be as effective with low usage. Hovering around 10 is actually a blessing if moody is still around.

[WargamesX]

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[cgf]

Yeah I just wanted to know how you liked them as prospects in general. I have no idea what the Knicks will do but sitting with two picks in the 1st round and 2 in the 2nd I think it's safe to assume we will be active in trade talks and looking to make a move. Doubt we go into next year with 4 rookies but we'll see how that goes.

I was thinking how skinny Moody looks and how his body lacks any muscle tone or definition but then realized that he's still 18 so it's not that concerning as long as he commits to getting his body NBA ready eventually. But yea he definitely has more of a retro 2 guard type of game so to me that's pretty impressive given his age. Boukgnight plays more like a modern day explosive 2 guard so he might have the bigger potential and the higher ceiling but I'm with you I like both.

When comparing Moody's body to a guy like Ziaire, it becomes evident that he actually has a frame that will fill out well. Look at Ziaire, he is very narrow across the shoulders and stands mad upright and erect. I doubt Ziaire will ever be able to carry much weight or bulk up to handle serious contact at the rim. I see Moody has squared high shoulders and I think he'll physically mature well and faster than Ziaire. I kinda peg Ziaire's body type as similar to a Rip Hamilton or Corey Brewer. Moody I view as in the Allan Houston prototype. Both physically and in playing style.

Zaire gives me Culver vibes, I'm cautious about him

Culver wasn't half the athlete Ziaire is and didn't have his shooting mechanics...or length.

And if KD, Ingram & Tatum were able to fill out their frames, I'm not worried about Ziaire's strength in the long run...though it will limit him around the rim early.

[cgf]

As I said before Moody screams pro. To me he is one of the safest bets in the top 10. His game will easily translate to the NBA. A duo of him and RJ at the wings is extremely solid. Moody would easily be our Zone buster. The Knicks need Moodys game more so than a Zaire, or Bouknight imo. The odds are Randle will still be here next year, and him an RJ will dominate a lot of the ball usage. moody is extremely effective with low usage. Not sure JB can be as effective with low usage. Hovering around 10 is actually a blessing if moody is still around.

My only issue with this is that I don't think we should be banking on any rookie solving our short term holes next season...not when I think our young talent would be ready for a playoff push if we sign someone like Trent to fill that starting spot next to RJ, while we develop our rooks.

That's part of why I'm not too bothered by Ziaire needing to fill out still, another being that his strength won't affect his shooting gravity and pairing RJ/JR with someone who has to build their game from the outside-in, should only be a good thing.

[2010]

I’m starting to see flashes of what cgf is seeing with Keon Johnson on the ball and his court vision, in this video:

Watch on YouTube

;t=5s

[3toheadmelo]

Mikey Williams vs Emoni Bates today. Hardcore tankers will probably want to tune in lol

[cgf]

I’m starting to see flashes of what cgf is seeing with Keon Johnson on the ball and his court vision, in this video:

Watch on YouTube

;t=5s

It's just been flashes on the offensive end, but his athleticism & defense really lower the skill-level bar that he has to clear to be successful...especially if the outside shooting keeps progressing as fast as it has been since last spring.

I would still want to move up from the DET SRP for Butler and would bring Keon off the bench next to Butler if that ended up happening. But the long term potential with that kid is through the roof if he can turn those offensive flashes into regular contributions.

[Reign23]

who are the best shooters that are projected lottery picks?

[thebuzzardman]

Why people torture themselves speculating about players in the top 10 when the Knicks will be picking 13 and 21?

[cgf]

who are the best shooters that are projected lottery picks?

Can't tell you about the GLers, but amongst the college kids who might crack the lottery:

Kispert or Wagner for pure snipers, but I'm not sure where on the Nowak-Harris spectrum of white-guy-shooters they land; as they show some skills other than shooting, but it's not clear if any of that will translate to the next level.

After that Bouknight, Moody, & Butler (if he ends up a late lotto guy instead of an early-20s guy) are already really good shooters & 3-level scorers at the college level.

With Ziaire & Suggs landing in the next tier of guys who project to become good shooters but aren't yet & have shown a knack for shooting off the dribble.

[knickstape4ever]

Mikey Williams vs Emoni Bates today. Hardcore tankers will probably want to tune in lol

nah, even I can't get behind another tank yr. I wanted this to be the last yr, especially since we have the Dallas pick too

[TerrenceClarke]

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Draft Bones Hyland in the second.

[TheGreenArrow]

Mikey Williams vs Emoni Bates today. Hardcore tankers will probably want to tune in lol

We’ll no longer be in the tank race after this season!!!

[3toheadmelo]

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Draft Bones Hyland in the second.

I was watching the videos you posted of him and he looks nice. I was surprised to find out he’s 6’3. Thought he was at least 6’6. I wouldn’t mind him at all in the second round, although my preference is David Duke

[TerrenceClarke]

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Draft Bones Hyland in the second.

I was watching the videos you posted of him and he looks nice. I was surprised to find out he’s 6’3. Thought he was at least 6’6. I wouldn’t mind him at all in the second round, although my preference is David Duke

Ya boy David is a sure fire first rounder. If he dropped to the second that would be a crime.