Knicks - Hawks PG: This is what effort looks like

[nyczlegacy]

IQ is damn legit thibs needa give him more minutes so he can continue to improve

the chemistry he has w obi is fantastic as well

Kemba can stay cheerleading w that fire pink hoodie on all season 100

[RHODEY]

Just as the question should have been answered when it was asked 3 years ago when the majority of this boards didn't want CP3 cause he was toast, a lot better. And not just our young players, our every player...including Randle.

Can you blame them?...most guards are toast by his age. The majority of the board didn't want West Brook....and i'd say they definitely hit that one on the head

CP3 isn't like "most guards". And West Brook still would have been better than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier and folks were willing to lick Walkers balls when they signed him. So what does that say?

Talent wise sure he's not like other guards, durability wise he was getting hurt a lot. Surprisingly he's been able to hold up , but at the time it didn't look like that would be the case.

I also vehemently disagree that Westbrook would have been better for us than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier. I bet the Lakers would jump at a chance to swap him just for Fournier alone.

[jvsimonetti0514]

We're spending a lot of time talking about the guards, but I think Julius being completely engaged on defense, even in a bad shooting night, is just as big of a story

Keep Randle engaged is super important but the perimeter defense was drastically different without Kemba in the line up. Trae went 3/11 in the 2nd half and that probably doesn't happen if Kemba is playing.

[KnixtapeH20]

I've been saying start

IQ
Burks
RJ
Randle
Obi

and I'm sticking by that. I'll keep saying it until I speak it into existence.

Mitch ain't getting benched and doesn't deserve to. Obi also isnt ready to start yet, 20+ minutes yes but he also has to become more consistent with his catch and shoot 3's.

[moocow007]

Can you blame them?...most guards are toast by his age. The majority of the board didn't want West Brook....and i'd say they definitely hit that one on the head

CP3 isn't like "most guards". And West Brook still would have been better than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier and folks were willing to lick Walkers balls when they signed him. So what does that say?

Talentwise sure he's not like other guards, durability wise he was gettign hurt a lot. He's been able to hold up , but at the time it didnt look like that would be the case.

But what would it have cost to find out? And yet folks were ABSOLUTELY SURE that CP3 was toast right?

I also vehemently disagree that Westbrook would have been better for us than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier. I bet the Lakers would jump at a chance to swap him for Fournier alone.

You're probably right lol.

[Orange Mamba]

dang someone got Rebecca pregnant?

[jvsimonetti0514]

It's time to put Kemba down like old yeller. He's washed and we clearly play better without him. Grimes looks pretty lost offensively but we really need his defense out there and Kemba isn't really giving us anything. So it's really time for him to go.

RJ had his first good game in 3 weeks! Let's hope he's figuring out how to be effective in his role

Evan's had his 3rd good game in a week! Let's hope He's figuring out how to be effective in his role.

Simms looked like an NBA player!

Obi's went from being a bust to an elite bench player.

IQ has made an impressive leap with his defense and playmaking. I think he earned to start.

Fave moments was in the 2nd quarter when all the bench kids and RJ played and dominated the Hawks.

Might have been the most fun game of the season.

This was the gif I was looking for and giphy didn't have it.

[KnixtapeH20]

CP3 isn't like "most guards". And West Brook still would have been better than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier and folks were willing to lick Walkers balls when they signed him. So what does that say?

Talentwise sure he's not like other guards, durability wise he was gettign hurt a lot. He's been able to hold up , but at the time it didnt look like that would be the case.

But what would it have cost to find out? And yet folks were ABSOLUTELY SURE that CP3 was toast right?

I also vehemently disagree that Westbrook would have been better for us than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier. I bet the Lakers would jump at a chance to swap him for Fournier alone.

You're probably right lol.

I think every other post of mines in the off season was CP3, Conley, Lowry... Thought there was no way we struck out on all 3 was so disappointed.

CP3 was always my top choice. Has been for years and years. Pipe dream

[Capn'O]

Likely a steep drop for sure.

How good would CP3 make our young players look? With how well he gets them the ball in their spots and how good he sets the pace for the team

Pretty damn amazing...hed even have the Vets clicking....

There'd damn sure be no question about who was the head of the snake.

[moocow007]

Talentwise sure he's not like other guards, durability wise he was gettign hurt a lot. He's been able to hold up , but at the time it didnt look like that would be the case.

But what would it have cost to find out? And yet folks were ABSOLUTELY SURE that CP3 was toast right?

I also vehemently disagree that Westbrook would have been better for us than Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier. I bet the Lakers would jump at a chance to swap him for Fournier alone.

You're probably right lol.

I think every other post of mines in the off season was CP3, Conley, Lowry... Thought there was no way we struck out on all 3 was so disappointed.

CP3 was always my top choice. Has been for years and years. Pipe dream

Yeah I've been saying that CP3 would be the best get for this team given how little assets we to work with and would have been the single best guy to make this team and everyone on it better. But every time it's been brought up it's been shot down cause CP3 is toast. He was supposed to be toast in 2019, then again in 2020, then again in 2021...but...hey...we got Kemba Walker who wasn't supposed to be toast so...

[Capn'O]

They're REALLY tough. Not a weakness on them.

Only weakness I see is that CP3 will have retire eventually....

I don't think pepple have been following the Suns. There was nothing remarkable or shameful about that loss.

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None at all. We actually didn't even play a bad game vs. them.

[Richard4444]

Mitch was a -5 and Jericho was +14. Mitch is very expendable now. Get on the phone Leon

and IQ is making Kemba expendable

Grimes when his shot starts falling will make Fournier expendable

What does a package of Mitch, Fournier, and Kemba get us?

Westbrook?

KP?

[KnixtapeH20]

Honest question and not an over exaggeration or knee jerk reaction, can IQ become a superstar type like Trae Young? Young doesn't even play defense, IQ looks like he's an elite defender of late particularly this game.

IQ needs to improve his handle but other than that what else is stopping him? He has the same confidence and bravado as young.

Next year and the year after quick is gona be on a whole nother level. His defense makes him a starter now w.o question

[jvsimonetti0514]

Honest question and not an over exaggeration or knee jerk reaction, can IQ become a superstar type like Trae Young? Young doesn't even play defense, IQ looks like he's an elite defender of late particularly this game.

IQ needs to improve his handle but other than that what else is stopping him? He has the same confidence and bravado as young.

not sure if IQ's as consistent of a scorer as Trae or as a playmaker. Those things come nature to Trae and I'm not sure IQ has those same instincts. He's made substantial improvements and I don't want to put a cap on IQ but that seems like asking a lot for him to become Trae.

[BugginOut]

The Burks and Rose contracts are some of the best contracts the Knicks have ever signed

[KnixtapeH20]

Honest question and not an over exaggeration or knee jerk reaction, can IQ become a superstar type like Trae Young? Young doesn't even play defense, IQ looks like he's an elite defender of late particularly this game.

IQ needs to improve his handle but other than that what else is stopping him? He has the same confidence and bravado as young.

not sure if IQ's as consistent of a scorer as Trae or as a playmaker. Those things come nature to Trae and I'm not sure IQ has those same instincts. He's made substantial improvements and I don't want to put a cap on IQ but that seems like asking a lot for him to become Trae.

Yea so tonight you saw IQ not as locked in bc he was thinking about running the offense. I noticed it in the 4th on those two shots he missed, one he drove the lane kept his dribble, ttried to shake his man for the step back 3. Wasn't as set but that comes with time and experience.

The passing may never be top tier but everything else I see is there. And even still IQ has mad some really great passes lately. His accuracy is spot on. The vision will need to continue to develop. That will come as a starter bc rose is the primary ball handler with that 2nd unit.

[Zenzibar]

The Burks and Rose contracts are some of the best contracts the Knicks have ever signed

Scott Perry?

[moocow007]

Honest question and not an over exaggeration or knee jerk reaction, can IQ become a superstar type like Trae Young? Young doesn't even play defense, IQ looks like he's an elite defender of late particularly this game.

IQ needs to improve his handle but other than that what else is stopping him? He has the same confidence and bravado as young.

Improving the handle (to the degree of "superstar" type guys like Trae Young) is probably one of the hardest skill wise traits to do is the problem. Improving free thrown shooting, improving a 3 point shot, improving ability to play team defense, those are relatively easy to do.

IQ is terrific at what he does but expecting him to be a superstar type like Trae Young? I think that's just a setup for failure...like what fans have done with so many talented but flawed guys that have put on a Knicks uniform in most of today's fans' lifetime.

Realistic for IQ is probably something along a John Starks level player or maybe a Lou Williams level player assuming everything clicks, he continues to improve and he remains healthy. And I'd be hell a ecstatic if that happened.

[BugginOut]

Honest question and not an over exaggeration or knee jerk reaction, can IQ become a superstar type like Trae Young? Young doesn't even play defense, IQ looks like he's an elite defender of late particularly this game.

IQ needs to improve his handle but other than that what else is stopping him? He has the same confidence and bravado as young.

Next year and the year after quick is gona be on a whole nother level. His defense makes him a starter now w.o question

His realistic ceiling is probably a borderline allstar player. Think on the level of CJ McCollum.

I can see him averaging 17 and 5, 58% TS%, with great defense by next year if he is a starter

[K_ick_God]

IQ def shares some Trae qualities. He'd need to develop a more reliable and varied layup package.