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Jalen Bluntson wrote:This is when you know things are bad!
The Mets/Yanks played tonight and NO ONE CARES!!
The Mets thread hasn't had a post in 5-6 WEEKS!!
HarthorneWingo wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:This is when you know things are bad!
The Mets/Yanks played tonight and NO ONE CARES!!
The Mets thread hasn't had a post in 5-6 WEEKS!!
The Mets are done for this season. We're going to be sellers at the deadline, assuming there's any deals to be made for our crap. Our starting pitching rotation looks more like a nursing home for baseball retirees. And our bullpen is a complete mess except for Robertson and Raley, who've been excellent, and Ottovino (at times). I think that the Mets are going to have to take a step back next season before they can take a step or two forward.
Jalen Bluntson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:This is when you know things are bad!
The Mets/Yanks played tonight and NO ONE CARES!!
The Mets thread hasn't had a post in 5-6 WEEKS!!
The Mets are done for this season. We're going to be sellers at the deadline, assuming there's any deals to be made for our crap. Our starting pitching rotation looks more like a nursing home for baseball retirees. And our bullpen is a complete mess except for Robertson and Raley, who've been excellent, and Ottovino (at times). I think that the Mets are going to have to take a step back next season before they can take a step or two forward.
What does your farm system look like?
MrDollarBills wrote:Can someone who knows more than me explain why Cashman is coming back next year? Is Hal stupid?
I've been meaning to comment for a minute, but that mess with Rizzo should cause for heads to roll from the top down. The team needs new leadership and frankly a damn cleaning out
SelbyCobra wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Can someone who knows more than me explain why Cashman is coming back next year? Is Hal stupid?
I've been meaning to comment for a minute, but that mess with Rizzo should cause for heads to roll from the top down. The team needs new leadership and frankly a damn cleaning out
The Steinbrenner family has always been an incestuous, nepotistic mess. Even though Hal is markedly different from his father outwardly, he's just like his dad when it comes to the stubborn, selfish methodology laced throughout his business strategy and the C-suite types he employs.
Cashman is a really bright guy who deserved the chance to be GM - he had a bunch of fantastic, and frankly perfect, ideas about how to change the organization, but his implementation of those ideas has been lacking, and the lack of accountability that this type of incestuous organizational structure breeds allows failure to be blamed on anything but those at the highest level.
And Cashman also gives Hal what he wants first an foremost: a full stadium and a sh*t ton of revenue. The on-field success of the team is a secondary concern for him, so the yearly failures don't cause the same level of anger and frustration at the ownership level as they do with the fans.
MrDollarBills wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Can someone who knows more than me explain why Cashman is coming back next year? Is Hal stupid?
I've been meaning to comment for a minute, but that mess with Rizzo should cause for heads to roll from the top down. The team needs new leadership and frankly a damn cleaning out
The Steinbrenner family has always been an incestuous, nepotistic mess. Even though Hal is markedly different from his father outwardly, he's just like his dad when it comes to the stubborn, selfish methodology laced throughout his business strategy and the C-suite types he employs.
Cashman is a really bright guy who deserved the chance to be GM - he had a bunch of fantastic, and frankly perfect, ideas about how to change the organization, but his implementation of those ideas has been lacking, and the lack of accountability that this type of incestuous organizational structure breeds allows failure to be blamed on anything but those at the highest level.
And Cashman also gives Hal what he wants first an foremost: a full stadium and a sh*t ton of revenue. The on-field success of the team is a secondary concern for him, so the yearly failures don't cause the same level of anger and frustration at the ownership level as they do with the fans.
I understand the business part from Hal, but honestly i think the old man would've canned Cashman by now![]()
It's like Cashman has dirt on the Steinbrenner family or something. This year should have been the nail in the coffin, but i heard Cashman is safe, and Boone is out. Why fire Boone and keep the guy responsible for this dog sh*t roster??
Anthony Rizzo going undiagnosed with a concussion is honestly inexcusable. That's an organizational failure and i put that squarely at Brian's feet
SelbyCobra wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:
The Steinbrenner family has always been an incestuous, nepotistic mess. Even though Hal is markedly different from his father outwardly, he's just like his dad when it comes to the stubborn, selfish methodology laced throughout his business strategy and the C-suite types he employs.
Cashman is a really bright guy who deserved the chance to be GM - he had a bunch of fantastic, and frankly perfect, ideas about how to change the organization, but his implementation of those ideas has been lacking, and the lack of accountability that this type of incestuous organizational structure breeds allows failure to be blamed on anything but those at the highest level.
And Cashman also gives Hal what he wants first an foremost: a full stadium and a sh*t ton of revenue. The on-field success of the team is a secondary concern for him, so the yearly failures don't cause the same level of anger and frustration at the ownership level as they do with the fans.
I understand the business part from Hal, but honestly i think the old man would've canned Cashman by now![]()
It's like Cashman has dirt on the Steinbrenner family or something. This year should have been the nail in the coffin, but i heard Cashman is safe, and Boone is out. Why fire Boone and keep the guy responsible for this dog sh*t roster??
Anthony Rizzo going undiagnosed with a concussion is honestly inexcusable. That's an organizational failure and i put that squarely at Brian's feet
George would have fired Cashman by now for sure, but he also would have hired an internal crony as a replacement, possibly even a retread of someone he fired previously. I mean yeah, he fired Billy Martin for stewarding a sinking ship.
But he also hired Billy Martin.
Five times.
It's the same incestuous muck, just a different veneer. It's not like they're a forward thinking, cutting edge organization under George OR Hal. Cashman wanted to do that - those were the ideas I mentioned - and was even given the reins to do so, he just couldn't execute it. Whether it was his own ego that got in the way, or limitations imposed by Hal, it doesn't matter - the result is the same as it was with George because the stubborn, selfish business methodology is genetic.
Jalen Bluntson wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
I understand the business part from Hal, but honestly i think the old man would've canned Cashman by now![]()
It's like Cashman has dirt on the Steinbrenner family or something. This year should have been the nail in the coffin, but i heard Cashman is safe, and Boone is out. Why fire Boone and keep the guy responsible for this dog sh*t roster??
Anthony Rizzo going undiagnosed with a concussion is honestly inexcusable. That's an organizational failure and i put that squarely at Brian's feet
George would have fired Cashman by now for sure, but he also would have hired an internal crony as a replacement, possibly even a retread of someone he fired previously. I mean yeah, he fired Billy Martin for stewarding a sinking ship.
But he also hired Billy Martin.
Five times.
It's the same incestuous muck, just a different veneer. It's not like they're a forward thinking, cutting edge organization under George OR Hal. Cashman wanted to do that - those were the ideas I mentioned - and was even given the reins to do so, he just couldn't execute it. Whether it was his own ego that got in the way, or limitations imposed by Hal, it doesn't matter - the result is the same as it was with George because the stubborn, selfish business methodology is genetic.
At least they are not the Mets.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid