Randle's Future

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks probably need someone better than Randle to win it all but you can’t likely get anyone better than him by using him as the main piece in a trade. It’s the downside of using so many picks on mikal. We’re not very flexible anymore.

Golden Treadmill. Fire Rose.

[thebuzzardman]

Not sure what the Knicks do with Randle but I think the Villanovans are going to get two full seasons and the Knicks will be investigating moving Hart and Donte as part of a larger deal.
"Hey Jalen, we made your dreams come true but this is a business"

[thebuzzardman]

Randle's future is a ruined shoulder from sumo wrestling 450 lb Japanese men

[moocow007]

I can totally see this backfiring on Randle

Randle's in a tough spot. He can go ahead and follow Brunson but unlike Brunson who's pretty much universally viewed by Knick fans as the savior he's still viewed as the little engine that couldn't. I would imagine that if he were to discount his extension that he would most definitely look to have a no trade clause. That way the Knicks can't ship him off to some team that he doesn't want to be. That's bare minimum. Or if they go with a near full extension the Knicks will ask him to do like Precious did and not have a no trade clause. At the end of the day, the Knicks can always trade him even if they extend him so folks shouldn't be doing what they keep doing and seeing an extension as an end all be all type of a thing. Randle's injuries aren't viewed as career debilitating and derailing. He's actually gotten better as a Knick (culminating in last season where he looked like he and the Knicks were in a near perfect place before the injury). I think they'd definitely want to get him extended (less even if they go with the max than if he hit free agency and got a free agency max) I would think.

[moocow007]

Randle's future is a ruined shoulder from sumo wrestling 450 lb Japanese men

[sol537]

I can totally see this backfiring on Randle

Randle's in a tough spot. He can go ahead and follow Brunson but unlike Brunson who's pretty much universally viewed by Knick fans as the savior he's still viewed as the little engine that couldn't. I would imagine that if he were to discount his extension that he would most definitely look to have a no trade clause. That way the Knicks can't ship him off to some team that he doesn't want to be. That's bare minimum. Or if they go with a near full extension the Knicks will ask him to do like Precious did and not have a no trade clause. At the end of the day, the Knicks can always trade him even if they extend him so folks shouldn't be doing what they keep doing and seeing an extension as an end all be all type of a thing. Randle's injuries aren't viewed as career debilitating and derailing. He's actually gotten better as a Knick (culminating in last season where he looked like he and the Knicks were in a near perfect place before the injury). I think they'd definitely want to get him extended (less even if they go with the max than if he hit free agency and got a free agency max) I would think.

Maybe they'll offer a 4-year extension at around $170m total with the 4th year being a player option. We'll find out more tomorrow or soon thereafter, no doubt.

Randle just posted a congrats image to Brunson on his insta so that's something...

[god shammgod]

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[Iron Mantis]

[aggo]

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Wow.

[aggo]

Get this bitch off my team.

[KnicksGadfly]

I can totally see this backfiring on Randle

Randle's in a tough spot. He can go ahead and follow Brunson but unlike Brunson who's pretty much universally viewed by Knick fans as the savior he's still viewed as the little engine that couldn't. I would imagine that if he were to discount his extension that he would most definitely look to have a no trade clause. That way the Knicks can't ship him off to some team that he doesn't want to be. That's bare minimum. Or if they go with a near full extension the Knicks will ask him to do like Precious did and not have a no trade clause. At the end of the day, the Knicks can always trade him even if they extend him so folks shouldn't be doing what they keep doing and seeing an extension as an end all be all type of a thing. Randle's injuries aren't viewed as career debilitating and derailing. He's actually gotten better as a Knick (culminating in last season where he looked like he and the Knicks were in a near perfect place before the injury). I think they'd definitely want to get him extended (less even if they go with the max than if he hit free agency and got a free agency max) I would think.

Whenever I see Brunson get these accolades or praise, like signing a cheap extension or the Captain's spot, I do think that they should have been Randle's. He was here first, and doing all the right things in the beginning. We should all be calling for his jersey to be raised to the rafters at this point. This story could have been different and should have been.

I don't think Randle needs to worry about the fans. I say this as someone who does not trust Randle for very good reasons. The fans aren't the FO. Dolan loves him, the FO loves him, and those guys don't really care too much about the fans -- they basically control media at MSG, don't do interviews, will block players from interviews if needed, etc. If Randle gets moved, it won't be about the fans -- it'll be about his play. Of course, the fans will probably hate him if he starts playing bad again, but it'll be about Randle's play, first and foremost.

If I was Randle's agent, I tell Randle to get his money now. If he does another 2021-2022 season, he's not gonna make that type of money again. If I were the FO, I know this, and I don't re-sign Randle unless I'm getting a nice discount, with the risk baked in. However, like I said, the FO loves him.

As for the cap space, I do think there are going to be considerations about the apron, which the Athletic touched upon.

New York already has nine players under contract in 2025-26: Two current rookies, Pacome Dadiet and Tyler Kolek, and seven of the players in their top eight. Randle is the one whose status is uncertain. Accounting for just those nine guys, the Knicks are still a breezy $54 million below the second apron in 2025-26. But if they were to give Randle all they could in an extension, which would begin in that season, they would come within $13 million of the 2025-26 second apron with only 10 players under contract.

That’s too close.

All of a sudden, the Knicks would become at risk of cresting above the dreaded second apron … or they could be unable to use the resources that would otherwise be afforded to them (such as the midlevel exception or the chance to sign buyout candidates) because they are too close to the threshold.

It means Randle may have to take far less than $40.5 million in starting salary to entice the Knicks into handing him a new contract this summer.

[3toheadmelo]

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[3toheadmelo]

randle will def get extended eventually. i have no doubts about that. it'll be interesting to see if randle wants to get paid this time around because he already took a paycut for us before. my prediction is that he finds a middle ground with the FO on a team friendly extension

[aggo]

randle proved less important than OG last season

Im offering less than 4/182.

let him find out what his worth is if he wants to play around

[nedleeds]

Randle's future is a ruined shoulder from sumo wrestling 450 lb Japanese men

[Chislic]

The Knicks going 12-2 in January is not an argument to keep Randle. Small sample size. Not proof of concept. No, this doesn't prove he fits. It's called a winning streak. Compatibility can be temporary. (When all players are locked in and playing unselfish.)

Randle went 12-1 with RJ Barrett TWICE. How compatible were they??

[Kampuchea]

Randle is with CAA.

[Nazrmohamed]

The Knicks going 12-2 in January is not an argument to keep Randle. Small sample size. Not proof of concept. No, this doesn't prove he fits. It's called a winning streak. Compatibility can be temporary. (When all players are locked in and playing unselfish.)

Randle went 12-1 with RJ Barrett TWICE. How compatible were they??

Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.

[Chislic]

Randle is with CAA.

By that logic Keita Bates-Diop is untouchable? NY would be willing to sign Jordan Poole? Nah.

Connections matter, but at the end of the day Rose will build this team his way.

If anything, Randle and Robinson are Steve Mills' boys. Neither acquired by the new regime. I think that matters more than CAA. IMO.

[Chislic]

The Knicks going 12-2 in January is not an argument to keep Randle. Small sample size. Not proof of concept. No, this doesn't prove he fits. It's called a winning streak. Compatibility can be temporary. (When all players are locked in and playing unselfish.)

Randle went 12-1 with RJ Barrett TWICE. How compatible were they??

Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.

Randle is good, but I'm open to moving him. I live in a "whatever is best for the team" reality. I look at this from more of a business perspective, I guess. I'm not attached to players like I was in my youth. I also love the logic puzzle that is team building. So I'm more on board with Rose completing his vision rather than holding onto the past.

But yeah, these winning streaks prove you can win with Randle for periods of time when he is locked in... the team is locked in and everyone is putting the team first.

The last three 9-game win streaks came after the acquiring Rose, Hart and OG. Knowing this makes it difficult for me to give Randle all the credit for success during those times. It seems more like a team invigorated by a new acquisition than the mighty efforts of one player.