Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[Polk377]

Get Murphy III or Herb Jones for Mitch and this team is a complete nightmare for the league. Jones makes more sense to me than Murphy because of his defense. Put Jones next to OG and Mikal and you have 3 elite 3 and D wings next to a top 3 PG in Brunson and top 5 C in Towns. Also moves Hart to the bench where you can use him as a Swiss army knife covering the 2-4 positions. Get it done!!!!

I get that the Pels need a center... but I think they'd rather keep looking for an Ingram trade even if it goes to the Feb '25 trade deadline than trade Murphy or Jones. Ingram is gone one way or another... the problem is that no one seems to want to pay him what he's asking

I wouldn't complain if the Pels were dumb enough to do Mitch for Jones... even if we had to throw in Dadiet, WAS 1st, and two 2nd rounders to make it happen...

I would do that in a heartbeat. Again the Pels would have to be stupid enough to do it but someone in that mix has to go and there are no takers for Ingram right now as you said.

[KnixinSix]

The Pelicans are not trading Herb for Mitch. Can we stop this BS?

Not likely. But what I proposed above satisfies the NEW CBA requirements and something like this would be potentially doable.

[KnickFan33]

How washed is Dwight Howard?

They'd have to peel him off Dadiet and Sims after every game. Best to avoid this issue.

Seriously though… he’s a big body that would be able to defend the likes of embiid/jokic and do much of what Robinson does in limited minutes. As long as he isn’t washed.

[sol537]

Get Murphy III or Herb Jones for Mitch and this team is a complete nightmare for the league. Jones makes more sense to me than Murphy because of his defense. Put Jones next to OG and Mikal and you have 3 elite 3 and D wings next to a top 3 PG in Brunson and top 5 C in Towns. Also moves Hart to the bench where you can use him as a Swiss army knife covering the 2-4 positions. Get it done!!!!

I get that the Pels need a center... but I think they'd rather keep looking for an Ingram trade even if it goes to the Feb '25 trade deadline than trade Murphy or Jones. Ingram is gone one way or another... the problem is that no one seems to want to pay him what he's asking

I wouldn't complain if the Pels were dumb enough to do Mitch for Jones... even if we had to throw in Dadiet, WAS 1st, and two 2nd rounders to make it happen...

I would do that in a heartbeat. Again the Pels would have to be stupid enough to do it but someone in that mix has to go and there are no takers for Ingram right now as you said.

Yup... one of Ingram, Jones, or Murphy eventually has to go for them to upgrade, but maybe they'll keep riding it out for as long as possible. They re-sign Ingram... move Murphy back to the bench as the 6th man alongside McCollum and then they try to get by at the Center position with cheap stopgaps for the time being. That's probably their "safest" play until they can later trade Ingram.

[KnixinSix]

I get that the Pels need a center... but I think they'd rather keep looking for an Ingram trade even if it goes to the Feb '25 trade deadline than trade Murphy or Jones. Ingram is gone one way or another... the problem is that no one seems to want to pay him what he's asking

I wouldn't complain if the Pels were dumb enough to do Mitch for Jones... even if we had to throw in Dadiet, WAS 1st, and two 2nd rounders to make it happen...

I would do that in a heartbeat. Again the Pels would have to be stupid enough to do it but someone in that mix has to go and there are no takers for Ingram right now as you said.

Yup... one of Ingram, Jones, or Murphy eventually has to go for them to upgrade, but maybe they'll keep riding it out for as long as possible. They re-sign Ingram... move Murphy back to the bench as the 6th man alongside McCollum and then they try to get by at the Center position with cheap stopgaps for the time being. That's probably their "safest" play until they can later trade Ingram.

Pels legitimately want Mitchell as they have identified elite rim protection as their greatest need in their system/ roster construction.

But they want MORE than Mitchell due to his injury proneness.

[Polk377]

I would do that in a heartbeat. Again the Pels would have to be stupid enough to do it but someone in that mix has to go and there are no takers for Ingram right now as you said.

Yup... one of Ingram, Jones, or Murphy eventually has to go for them to upgrade, but maybe they'll keep riding it out for as long as possible. They re-sign Ingram... move Murphy back to the bench as the 6th man alongside McCollum and then they try to get by at the Center position with cheap stopgaps for the time being. That's probably their "safest" play until they can later trade Ingram.

Pels legitimately want Mitchell as they have identified elite rim protection as their greatest need in their system/ roster construction.

But they want MORE than Mitchell due to his injury proneness.

If we are getting Jones or Murphy, I would give them Dadiet as an incentive. They don't have to give him minutes right away and can develop him into maybe another Murphy or Jones.

[R-DAWG]

I kind of want to see this team on the court before making another move - unless we are getting a great value type of deal for Mitch.

I like the idea of mixing Mitch and Duce around the core 4 depending on matchups, with Hart as the swiss army knife off the bench and Precious as Mitch/OG insurance (were fine with PA filling in regular season minutes but need Mitch/OG health for a long playoff run).

As for these Trae Murphy rumors, would love to make it a 3 way deal with the Bulls where we get Colby White and Murphy ends up in Chicago.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Yup... one of Ingram, Jones, or Murphy eventually has to go for them to upgrade, but maybe they'll keep riding it out for as long as possible. They re-sign Ingram... move Murphy back to the bench as the 6th man alongside McCollum and then they try to get by at the Center position with cheap stopgaps for the time being. That's probably their "safest" play until they can later trade Ingram.

Pels legitimately want Mitchell as they have identified elite rim protection as their greatest need in their system/ roster construction.

But they want MORE than Mitchell due to his injury proneness.

If we are getting Jones or Murphy, I would give them Dadiet as an incentive. They don't have to give him minutes right away and can develop him into maybe another Murphy or Jones.

I’d like to hold onto Dadiet and there is not a big rush with trading Mitch. Let’s see how spelling KAT at the 5 (at times) with Precious, Hukporti and Jericho works. We don’t have many picks going forward and developing Dadiet as a wing (with OG’s injury problems) is important.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks get Herb Jones and/or Tre Murphy yet?

[Wildcat]

Knicks traded Deuce for DDV, yet?

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks trade Mitch for 3 random backup depth players yet?

[Polk377]

Pels legitimately want Mitchell as they have identified elite rim protection as their greatest need in their system/ roster construction.

But they want MORE than Mitchell due to his injury proneness.

If we are getting Jones or Murphy, I would give them Dadiet as an incentive. They don't have to give him minutes right away and can develop him into maybe another Murphy or Jones.

I’d like to hold onto Dadiet and there is not a big rush with trading Mitch. Let’s see how spelling KAT at the 5 (at times) with Precious, Hukporti and Jericho works. We don’t have many picks going forward and developing Dadiet as a wing (with OG’s injury problems) is important.

This is it for the Knicks. We have a 3-4 year window with how the team is built. If you can get an elite defensive wing in his prime right now to push us up than we do it. Dadiet could be great or he could be Frank 2.0. You don't hold him to find out.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If we are getting Jones or Murphy, I would give them Dadiet as an incentive. They don't have to give him minutes right away and can develop him into maybe another Murphy or Jones.

I’d like to hold onto Dadiet and there is not a big rush with trading Mitch. Let’s see how spelling KAT at the 5 (at times) with Precious, Hukporti and Jericho works. We don’t have many picks going forward and developing Dadiet as a wing (with OG’s injury problems) is important.

This is it for the Knicks. We have a 3-4 year window with how the team is built. If you can get an elite defensive wing in his prime right now to push us up than we do it. Dadiet could be great or he could be Frank 2.0. You don't hold him to find out.

Most championship windows are 3-4 years. Unless you have a dynasty like GSW. That's pretty rare though.

[Knicksfan1992]

The Pels roster is so crazy imbalanced that I could see them doing something pretty crazy just to get Mitch in. That being said I don't think they would like to part with either Herb or Trey but they may just be desperate enough to try to balance the roster out a bit. Right now their best true big on the team is freakin Daniel Theis . Unless Missi really breaks out as a rookie opposing bigs are going to dominate them. They can't expect to make the playoffs in the West without any real NBA size outside of Zion.

I generally don't understand what Griffin has been cooking up down there now for 5 years. Like the general outline of it makes some sense but the actual moves have been kind of disastrous. Okay you got a bunch of "two way wings" but they couldn't play them all and most of them are too light to scale up on defense. They've never once given priority to getting a real PG next to Zion which seems like the most obvious position to prioritize given what Zion's skillset is. CJ McCollum is somehow still on this team. Then they make this pointless trade IMO for Dejounte who isn't really a PG and likes to have the ball in his hands a lot...Meanwhile Brandon Ingram doesn't want to be there either and he likes to have the ball in his hands. It's just all kind of a mess. They had Lonzo there and just let him walk (no they don't get credit for him randomly having his knee explode lol). Jrue Holiday was there and they let him walk.

I just think Griffin kind of stinks at actually building a roster out. He may be dumb enough to take advantage of in a trade.

[WaltFrazier]

If Mitch gets traded for a non center the team is back to being small. Mitch is needed to play Embiid in the playoffs and to give the option of going big or small. I wouldn't want him traded for a 6'8 forward. For a 7 footer like to Kessler would be different

[Polk377]

If Mitch gets traded for a non center the team is back to being small. Mitch is needed to play Embiid in the playoffs and to give the option of going big or small. I wouldn't want him traded for a 6'8 forward. For a 7 footer like to Kessler would be different

Having 3 6'7-6'8 wings in the same lineup does not make you a small team. Especially when your C is still 7'0 tall and a floor spacer.

[WaltFrazier]

If Mitch gets traded for a non center the team is back to being small. Mitch is needed to play Embiid in the playoffs and to give the option of going big or small. I wouldn't want him traded for a 6'8 forward. For a 7 footer like to Kessler would be different

Having 3 6'7-6'8 wings in the same lineup does not make you a small team. Especially when your C is still 7'0 tall and a floor spacer.

If Sims takes a huge leap forward then I'll agree, but otherwise I believe a team needs a true back-up C who can step in for an injured starter. Like iHart did last season

[sol537]

1) Start Precious at the "4" next to KAT
2) Have Hart finish off both halves with the death line-up
3) Let Mitch get 110% healthy with our new health doc so he can play the Rudy Gobert role next to KAT
4) Evaluate the team for 1-2 months before the Feb deadline before making one final roster upgrade

No need to go crazy. We are in a great position.

[seren]

There is no reason to complete your roster in October. It is a long season. Let’s see how healthy Mitch looks like with KAT. Assuming the rest of the roster is healthy and we don’t have to make any more moves for KAT trade, we have enough for now.

[Ray Williams]

There is no reason to complete your roster in October. It is a long season. Let’s see how healthy Mitch looks like with KAT. Assuming the rest of the roster is healthy and we don’t have to make any more moves for KAT trade, we have enough for now.

Other than practicing together during training camp so they can gel.