PG: Knicks vs. Warriors: Pathetic Part II

[3toheadmelo]

Reading is hard.

What’s hard to comprehend is you posting on the Celtics board hyping up KP

Why would I not do that there if I do it here?

I think he's an excellent, interesting to watch player. Basically everyone posting on this board who was here in his 3rd season thought and should think the same. Who knows what his end of career summary will look like?

Has had injury misfortunes - triggered originally by Giannis (not by far the only one). And has had stupid GMs at least in NYK and Dallas. But a really important player for any team who can figure out how to use him.

Would the 2023-2024 Celtics have won the ring without him? Possibly. But the fact that they had him took them easily over the top.

It's not for nothing that Celtics fans (including the Celtics board here) are very relieved that he seems to have overcome the mysterious virus problem he just had. They, quite reasonably, think that having KP available makes their chances of winning another championship considerably better.

I’m just messing with you idgaf if you stan KP

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

What’s hard to comprehend is you posting on the Celtics board hyping up KP

Why would I not do that there if I do it here?

I think he's an excellent, interesting to watch player. Basically everyone posting on this board who was here in his 3rd season thought and should think the same. Who knows what his end of career summary will look like?

Has had injury misfortunes - triggered originally by Giannis (not by far the only one). And has had stupid GMs at least in NYK and Dallas. But a really important player for any team who can figure out how to use him.

Would the 2023-2024 Celtics have won the ring without him? Possibly. But the fact that they had him took them easily over the top.

It's not for nothing that Celtics fans (including the Celtics board here) are very relieved that he seems to have overcome the mysterious virus problem he just had. They, quite reasonably, think that having KP available makes their chances of winning another championship considerably better.

I’m just messing with you idgaf if you stan KP

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But I confessedly do.

Also other players to a lesser extent. (For example. All those guys the Lakers gave away for AD to some extent - or of that party - I have a soft spot for: BI, Randle, Kuzma, even Lonzo. [edit: what a team that could have been if only the Laker's management* had some vision. I mean I guess they justify it to themselves by winning the bubble-ship. But that's really nothing. Tho' if you knew you could trade all of those player 4 years down the line foe Luka ... :? *Jeanie ])

Ofc, some people force you to understand that they are much better than you initially think. DW would be one certainly.

JB, I kinda feel that I never underestimated him. I was watching almost every game of the KP-era Mavs and so I pretty much understood in real time as it became obvious how good JB is - but well before he was a starter.

But for every swing you hit there's a miss.

Spoiler:

Frank

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The team has to have your back after all this.

[WaltFrazier]

The Celtics acquired Price from SA. He didn't immediately gel with Tatum and Brown.

Um. Wtf r u talking about. Price? Celtics traded with SA? What are you smoking?

What happened was the Celtics traded with WAS for KP, who gelled immediately with Tatum and Brown, which "is" why they won the championship.

Celtics def didn’t win the championship cause of KP. He played just 7 games in the playoffs

You're both omitting Jrue which was the trade that really put Boston over the top. If they just acquired KP but then stuck with Brogdon instead of Jrue I don't think they win last year

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Um. Wtf r u talking about. Price? Celtics traded with SA? What are you smoking?

What happened was the Celtics traded with WAS for KP, who gelled immediately with Tatum and Brown, which "is" why they won the championship.

Celtics def didn’t win the championship cause of KP. He played just 7 games in the playoffs

You're both omitting Jrue which was the trade that really put Boston over the top. If they just acquired KP but then stuck with Brogdon instead of Jrue I don't think they win last year

Agreed 100%. Jrue was also a key piece. Mad how they picked up so many crucial pieces without anyone really trying to stop them.

[HarthorneWingo]

The Celtics acquired Price from SA. He didn't immediately gel with Tatum and Brown.

Um. Wtf r u talking about. Price? Celtics traded with SA? What are you smoking?

What happened was the Celtics traded with WAS for KP, who gelled immediately with Tatum and Brown, which "is" why they won the championship.

Celtics def didn’t win the championship cause of KP. He played just 7 games in the playoffs

BBRdelusuonal

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

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The team has to have your back after all this.

Idk. They are all pros. Just money.

Non-pro: Drey would have been put in the grinder and no one making out with him at the end,

[HarthorneWingo]

Um. Wtf r u talking about. Price? Celtics traded with SA? What are you smoking?

What happened was the Celtics traded with WAS for KP, who gelled immediately with Tatum and Brown, which "is" why they won the championship.

Celtics def didn’t win the championship cause of KP. He played just 7 games in the playoffs

You're both omitting Jrue which was the trade that really put Boston over the top. If they just acquired KP but then stuck with Brogdon instead of Jrue I don't think they win last year

Always the voice of reason.

But getting back together my original point, it takes a little time to get the food tasting just right. Everyone needs to relax their sphincters. Fire Thibs, trade Mikal for Donte … lol, it’s lunacy.

[HopelessKnick]

The Celtics acquired Price from SA. He didn't immediately gel with Tatum and Brown.

Um. Wtf r u talking about. Price? Celtics traded with SA? What are you smoking?

What happened was the Celtics traded with WAS for KP, who gelled immediately with Tatum and Brown, which "is" why they won the championship.

Shut up!

I meant Derrick White. Price? White? Who cares? Besides, you knew who I was talking about.

Porzingis is an important part of their team but there are strong grounds to believe they would have won the title even without him. Keep in mind he played very poorly in the first round (like averaging 12points on below 40% shooting). Then he got hurt in game 4 of the first round and missed the entire second round and ECF and returned for the final 3 games in the finals (where he played very well and made a difference admittedly). Yet if you look at their entire title run last season, Porzingis appeared in only 7 games and was productive in only 4 out of those 7 games. In those other 3 games he averaged 6 points on 20% shooting.

The Holiday and White trade has put them over the top. They added 2 two-way players next to Brown, Tatum and Horford and the improvement of their bench made them really formidable. They can switch almost everything, everyone can shoot and almost everyone on their roster can defend.

[HopelessKnick]

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The team has to have your back after all this.

Agreed, bad look. Such a 180 degress turn in terms of vibes and all from last season.

[Iron Mantis]

Y'all still don't get it.

KAT wanted to get the win so he could talk his ish. He's pissed they lost.

His teammates let him down, not by what happened AFTER the game...but by going 2-19 FG and playing like they weren't serious about winning.

[MrDollarBills]

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The team has to have your back after all this.

Agreed, bad look. Such a 180 degress turn in terms of vibes and all from last season.

I'm not saying someone needed to punch Draymond but I concur with Iron Mantis' post before mines. The best way to support Karl would have been to actually compete with the same intensity that he had.

It's all competition at the end of the day and KAT/Draymond got into it like we knew they would. These guys are pros and all have different relationships with each other so I'm not upset that guys were dapping each other up at the end, it's the fact that guys didn't show up during the game that pisses me off the most.

Like for 48 minutes lock in and make dude eat his words about your teammate. But instead we saw more fire being thrown between Tom and Josh at each other than on the court. At this point if you aren't playing for each other, what are you playing for????

I feel like if Brunson was out there he would have lit Golden State up off of general principle.

[thebuzzardman]

You know a team sucks when there's no consensus among the fans what is good or bad about it, how to fix it.

That indicates it has more issues than can really be fixed.

Enjoy the mediocre ride.

Disagree.

There's an _huge_ consensus that Thibs is the first thing to cure/resolve. Ok, so sack him and replace with an assistant coach from the Grizz and then evaluate.

I mean, I just proposed in the trade thread the no-brain idea of Jokic for, well, in that case, the podcasters.

But even without that I think everyone paying attention to the Knicks believes that the upper-limit for the team (not the regular season wins) will be considerably higher. Ok, maybe only on playoff series, but scraping by in R1 and elim in R2 is pretty different to going 6/7 games in R3 (ECF).

This team isn't getting out of the first round.
Brunson is done for the season. MSG is just being coy about injuries, as usual.
They won't be able to pull off any trades of meaning, so the roster is essentially set for the next 4 years.

I guess they could fire Thibs. But they won't.

[HopelessKnick]

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The team has to have your back after all this.

Agreed, bad look. Such a 180 degress turn in terms of vibes and all from last season.

I'm not saying someone needed to punch Draymond but I concur with Iron Mantis' post before mines. The best way to support Karl would have been to actually compete with the same intensity that he had.

It's all competition at the end of the day and KAT/Draymond got into it like we knew they would. These guys are pros and all have different relationships with each other so I'm not upset that guys were dapping each other up at the end, it's the fact that guys didn't show up during the game that pisses me off the most.

Like for 48 minutes lock in and make dude eat his words about your teammate. But instead we saw more fire being thrown between Tom and Josh at each other than on the court. At this point if you aren't playing for each other, what are you playing for????

I feel like if Brunson was out there he would have lit Golden State up off of general principle.

Over the years I've come to accept people as they are....like if some personality wise etc. don't have that fire/spirit then it is difficult to teach that or even get them to that point for certain games. I remember it driving me nuts during my playing days in certain constellations against certain teams but it is what it is unfortunately. Unfortunately we played them twice shorthanded...I still believe GSW are a team we could beat in a series if at full strength though. They will get trounced in the second round, I have no doubt at it. They are now vastly overrated. They stand little chance against the Lakers and zero chance against OKC. You can quote me on that.

[MrDollarBills]

Agreed, bad look. Such a 180 degress turn in terms of vibes and all from last season.

I'm not saying someone needed to punch Draymond but I concur with Iron Mantis' post before mines. The best way to support Karl would have been to actually compete with the same intensity that he had.

It's all competition at the end of the day and KAT/Draymond got into it like we knew they would. These guys are pros and all have different relationships with each other so I'm not upset that guys were dapping each other up at the end, it's the fact that guys didn't show up during the game that pisses me off the most.

Like for 48 minutes lock in and make dude eat his words about your teammate. But instead we saw more fire being thrown between Tom and Josh at each other than on the court. At this point if you aren't playing for each other, what are you playing for????

I feel like if Brunson was out there he would have lit Golden State up off of general principle.

Over the years I've come to accept people as they are....like if some personality wise etc. don't have that fire/spirit then it is difficult to teach that or even get them to that point for certain games. I remember it driving me nuts during my playing days in certain constellations against certain teams but it is what it is unfortunately. Unfortunately we played them twice shorthanded...I still believe GSW are a team we could beat in a series if at full strength though. They will get trounced in the second round, I have no doubt at it. They are now vastly overrated. They stand little chance against the Lakers and zero chance against OKC. You can quote me on that.

GS isn't impressive or scary. If we had Brunson, I think we win Saturday without question.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm not saying someone needed to punch Draymond but I concur with Iron Mantis' post before mines. The best way to support Karl would have been to actually compete with the same intensity that he had.

It's all competition at the end of the day and KAT/Draymond got into it like we knew they would. These guys are pros and all have different relationships with each other so I'm not upset that guys were dapping each other up at the end, it's the fact that guys didn't show up during the game that pisses me off the most.

Like for 48 minutes lock in and make dude eat his words about your teammate. But instead we saw more fire being thrown between Tom and Josh at each other than on the court. At this point if you aren't playing for each other, what are you playing for????

I feel like if Brunson was out there he would have lit Golden State up off of general principle.

Over the years I've come to accept people as they are....like if some personality wise etc. don't have that fire/spirit then it is difficult to teach that or even get them to that point for certain games. I remember it driving me nuts during my playing days in certain constellations against certain teams but it is what it is unfortunately. Unfortunately we played them twice shorthanded...I still believe GSW are a team we could beat in a series if at full strength though. They will get trounced in the second round, I have no doubt at it. They are now vastly overrated. They stand little chance against the Lakers and zero chance against OKC. You can quote me on that.

GS isn't impressive or scary. If we had Brunson, I think we win Saturday without question.

Brunson sucks and is responsible for the Knicks poor play this season. Haven't you gotten the memo?

[MrDollarBills]

Over the years I've come to accept people as they are....like if some personality wise etc. don't have that fire/spirit then it is difficult to teach that or even get them to that point for certain games. I remember it driving me nuts during my playing days in certain constellations against certain teams but it is what it is unfortunately. Unfortunately we played them twice shorthanded...I still believe GSW are a team we could beat in a series if at full strength though. They will get trounced in the second round, I have no doubt at it. They are now vastly overrated. They stand little chance against the Lakers and zero chance against OKC. You can quote me on that.

GS isn't impressive or scary. If we had Brunson, I think we win Saturday without question.

Brunson sucks and is responsible for the Knicks poor play this season. Haven't you gotten the memo?

I did get the memo. I ignored it though

[Spree2Houston]

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The team has to have your back after all this.

KAT needs to develop the Duncan mentality. Just stay quiet and drop buckets on these dumb heads. But his rep takes a hit when he’s constantly complains. If he stopped complaining as he much as he does, he would be looked differently.

I’ve gained respect for KAT. To be just left out there alone on an island on national tv with one coming to your side and still having a big game showed me he got that dawg in him.

As for the team not having his back, this is a known issue. We’re soft. Go re-watch the road game in Phoenix. Royce O’Neal was punking Brunson, our damn Captain, and not one single teammate got in O’Neal’s face. This team doesn’t like confrontation. They’re soft. All bark no bite.

[MrDollarBills]

Green is most likely friends off the court with guys on the team, which is fine and they didn't need to start jawing with him or clobber him on KAT's behalf. KAT more than held his own, and no one was asking for that, but damn get fiesty and aggressive on both ends and meet the moment of competition.

Play hard, leave it on the floor and then exchange pleasantries. I didn't see the first part from guys outside of KAT.

[Adelheid]

bitches have no backbone