GT: ECF:@Knicks vs Pacers: Wed: 5/21/25: TNT; 8pm

[MrDollarBills]

Place is going soft, it's not like anyone threw D batteries at him, he just got hit with the Pacers.

I'm actually being pragmatic (at least trying and possibly failing). I don't want them to shut it down altogether because some morons took it too far. Some of them are clearly trying to go viral by taking it up a notch. Hopefully it doesn't go too far so we can continue to celebrate en masse outside MSG.

Things like that goes south real fast. And I'm sure there are some stuff out there that we don't even know about.

I had some real questions about the kid who was threatening to cut Jason Tatum that was not normal

[Kampuchea]

I remember last year....we were up 2-0 but OG got hurt in game 2. We almost beat them in game 3 despite having no Mitch, no Randle and no OG. They needed a miracle shot by Nemphard to win that game. Now we have lost Hartenstein and DD from that team that played the Pacers but we have now Mitch + KAT + OG + Mikal in there. If our top 7 stay healthy we'll win this series.

Knicks top 7 >>>> Pacers top 7

If the Knicks don't win this series then it is because Thibs got severely outcoached.

Brunson >>>>> Haliburton
Hart >>>> Nemphard
Mikal >>> Nesmith
OG < Siakam
KAT >>> Turner

We have 5 out of the best 7 players on both teams and we have the best player on the court as well. This series shouldn't even be that close. If we stay healthy, we should really win.

I'd say Turner is even with KAT or better and Brunson and Hali are not comparable.

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

[Wildcat]

that was my question….OG or Siakam….I believe OG as well but didn’t want to sound like a homer

I would caution that thought. Siakam should not be underestimated.

hes not, he just isn't as good as OG

These are two different styled players. What's your barometer of "as-good"? Siakam is an efficient scorer. He knows how to seal out whoever is guarding him in the post. The amount of "cheap" buckets he makes is annoyingly good.

[K_ick_God]

I remember last year....we were up 2-0 but OG got hurt in game 2. We almost beat them in game 3 despite having no Mitch, no Randle and no OG. They needed a miracle shot by Nemphard to win that game. Now we have lost Hartenstein and DD from that team that played the Pacers but we have now Mitch + KAT + OG + Mikal in there. If our top 7 stay healthy we'll win this series.

Knicks top 7 >>>> Pacers top 7

If the Knicks don't win this series then it is because Thibs got severely outcoached.

Brunson >>>>> Haliburton
Hart >>>> Nemphard
Mikal >>> Nesmith
OG < Siakam
KAT >>> Turner

We have 5 out of the best 7 players on both teams and we have the best player on the court as well. This series shouldn't even be that close. If we stay healthy, we should really win.

I'd say Turner is even with KAT or better and Brunson and Hali are not comparable.

Just his defense/shotblocks and shooting are simpler than what KAT tries to do, I guess lol, but KAT has more ways to impact the game

I guess he's not a great defender, just some blocks. But he's able to fit into what they do

I think the series hinges on KAT some, but also just defending Indiana like we did Boston in the last game. Same thing, don't care about the other stuff or how Boston shoots more 3's or whatever

[nykballa2k4]

I remember last year....we were up 2-0 but OG got hurt in game 2. We almost beat them in game 3 despite having no Mitch, no Randle and no OG. They needed a miracle shot by Nemphard to win that game. Now we have lost Hartenstein and DD from that team that played the Pacers but we have now Mitch + KAT + OG + Mikal in there. If our top 7 stay healthy we'll win this series.

Knicks top 7 >>>> Pacers top 7

If the Knicks don't win this series then it is because Thibs got severely outcoached.

Brunson >>>>> Haliburton
Hart >>>> Nemphard
Mikal >>> Nesmith
OG < Siakam
KAT >>> Turner

We have 5 out of the best 7 players on both teams and we have the best player on the court as well. This series shouldn't even be that close. If we stay healthy, we should really win.

I'd say Turner is even with KAT or better and Brunson and Hali are not comparable.

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

[Guano]

IS IT **** WEDNESDAY YET????

Anxiety getting you already huh?

I'm gonna be on edge all Wednesday

Fml, I thought game 1 was today. Even checked ESPN to see when tip off time was. Ive been dealing with this anxiety all day for nothing.

[Handledatruth]

I'd say Turner is even with KAT or better and Brunson and Hali are not comparable.

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

[MrDollarBills]

IS IT **** WEDNESDAY YET????

Anxiety getting you already huh?

I'm gonna be on edge all Wednesday

Fml, I thought game 1 was today. Even checked ESPN to see when tip off time was. Ive been dealing with this anxiety all day for nothing.

Watch this, it's a guaranteed laugh

[Jeff Van Gully]

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

even with the scoring outage that led to the game 3 loss last year, just a LITTLE more rebounding makes that a 3-0 situation. they'd have been packed up in 5.

nah, we gotta handle our business like we just did with boston.

[Guano]

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

Enter mitch. Who gives us more opportunities and is a key contributor of slowing down the pace - kat and jHart are going to also play a big role in that , too. Its just mitch is so dominant on the glass that he will control the game.

[MrDollarBills]

Turner even with KAT? Or better?

I didn’t think they were that close at all, with KAT being obviously better. Turner can’t rebound

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

Agreed. We need to drag Indiana into the mud. I don't want to see high pace exciting basketball vs these guys, I want to make it ugly and unwatchable

[Chanel Bomber]

Place is going soft, it's not like anyone threw D batteries at him, he just got hit with the Pacers.

I'm actually being pragmatic (at least trying and possibly failing). I don't want them to shut it down altogether because some morons took it too far. Some of them are clearly trying to go viral by taking it up a notch. Hopefully it doesn't go too far so we can continue to celebrate en masse outside MSG.

Brother, if we win a title, they'll need the Avengers to stop the city from celebrating.

Bro of course that's a given.

You know what I meant.

[Guano]

Anxiety getting you already huh?

I'm gonna be on edge all Wednesday

Fml, I thought game 1 was today. Even checked ESPN to see when tip off time was. Ive been dealing with this anxiety all day for nothing.

Watch this, it's a guaranteed laugh

jHart getting the meLo treatment

[Jeff Van Gully]

It's hard to play the PvP battle because in all honesty it doesn't matter. Pacers all play the same tempo/pace on offense. They are 11 deep with guys who can be a problem and they know/trust all of them.
Obi Toppin might be < Precious in certain context, but Toppin is going to score 12 points in 20 minutes on 7 shots. 2-4 from 3, 3-3 dunks.

Celtics game plan was OG vs Tatum. There really is no singular assignment this series. They are predictably un-predictable.

We really have not struggled with them at any time when we have been healthy, so I am really not worried, but it's a completely different animal compared to Pisons (Cade and Co) and Celtics (Tatum's team)

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

Enter mitch. Who gives us more opportunities and is a key contributor of slowing down the pass - kat and jHart are going to also play a big role in that , too. Its just mitch is so dominant on the glass that he will control the game.

mitch alone and they were packed up. everyone knows it.

alas, this is a new year. but i think we are healthy enough to control that glass.

[sol537]

I want to see a NYK sweep. A consistent killer instinct through 4 games. Put the league on notice.

[Guano]

You guys are thinking way too hard about this. In the end this series will come down to who can control pace and possessions at the right moments. So far the Knicks have been able to get both the Detroit Pistons and the Boston Celtics to slow their pace and matchup hunt when possessions mattered the most. Last year, Rick Carlisle spammed isos with Siakam knowing that the Knicks had no one to defend him because OG was hurt. So even in that situation the Pacers chose to be at the Knicks pace if the game got close. If they do it again (I think they will), we will win this series because we now have wings that are defending in those moments.

Its all fun and games until the score gets tight and people start to iso. That's when we excel at both ends. If we can shutdown Tatum and Brown in these moments, I'm not worried about Haliburton and Siakam. We even shutdown Cade when he tried it. We just need to execute properly in the first 3 quarters just like against Boston. That and Brunson will be Brunson. They don't have any Jrue Holidays or Amir Thompsons on their team.

Enter mitch. Who gives us more opportunities and is a key contributor of slowing down the pass - kat and jHart are going to also play a big role in that , too. Its just mitch is so dominant on the glass that he will control the game.

mitch alone and they were packed up. everyone knows it.

alas, this is a new year. but i think we are healthy enough to control that glass.

Healthy Mitch & jHart and KAT who is a beast on the glass - its a wrap.

[Fat Kat]

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[Capn'O]

IS IT **** WEDNESDAY YET????

Anxiety getting you already huh?

I'm gonna be on edge all Wednesday

I'm super excited. It's been so damn long.

[Polk377]

Anxiety getting you already huh?

I'm gonna be on edge all Wednesday

Fml, I thought game 1 was today. Even checked ESPN to see when tip off time was. Ive been dealing with this anxiety all day for nothing.

Watch this, it's a guaranteed laugh

If you didn't know Josh was Jalen's best friend, you would think he was his biggest hater and enemy

[Handledatruth]

People are picking the Pacers only because they love pretty, soft, and front running basketball. If we knock out the Pacers, every team left will be gritty. It will send a statement to the league moving forward. This is why I feel good about this series.

After that I don't what to say. Both those teams in the West matchup well against our style...but one series at a time.