*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

[StMikes31]

From an outsider looking in, it's pretty obvious he is gone.

1) Style of play. Lin and Carmelo do not work together. Both need the ball in their hands to make something happen. It's as simple as that. It is clear with the moves they have made (Kidd, Felton, bringing back J.R., adding Camby) that they are complimentary peices to Melo. Lin and Fields are NOT.

2) The third year will cost the Knicks 40 mil. I understand Dolan is loaded but is he really going to pay that much money for this guy who actually hurts Melo's game? It doesn't make sense. What are they going to do, let him sit on the bench just to reep the marketing benefits? Highly unlikely...

People ask, so why not match and then just trade him later? Valid point but they would have to trade him in January. Are they willing to sacrafice half a season with chemistry problems and then have trouble trading him with that contract after his poor play? Doubt it

Your first point is not valid. Did you watch any Knicks games where Melo and Lin played together and had a full team? I believe we were 6-1 and were extremely succesful at running a pick and roll together. The idea that they can't play together is simply not supported by any evidence.

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I just don't think he's comfortable with Lin running the show tbh. He put up great stats with Lin yea, but he's a superstar, he should be with any player. I think Felton and now Kidd will help his game more and make it easier for him. More give to to Melo for Iso's and post ups, where Lin doesn't want to do that and wants to get in the lane off a P and R and pitch it out or drive. Carmelo is more then a jump shooter.

[Bill Bradley]

From an outsider looking in, it's pretty obvious he is gone.

1) Style of play. Lin and Carmelo do not work together. Both need the ball in their hands to make something happen. It's as simple as that. It is clear with the moves they have made (Kidd, Felton, bringing back J.R., adding Camby) that they are complimentary peices to Melo. Lin and Fields are NOT.

From a pure bball standpoint, I honestly don't think those guys complement Melo's game more than Lin. I see a buddy buddy phenomenal more than anything. All the guys they bought in are good friends of the current "stars". These cannot be all bball decisions. We will see JR's brother making the team next, guaranteed.

That is the Dolan/Isiah way. I don't know why I had hope for anything different.

By the way, it's funny how we are now trying to fit our personnel to our coach when we never did that for D'Antoni's whole tenure.

[K_ick_God]

i'm no felton fan but cj choked in the playoffs something awful.

Yes but that doesn't make him worse than Felton who was awful in the playoffs two seasons ago with Denver.

well, i really don't think either one is good enough to argue for.

I don't love CJ but wouldn't you rather him at the vet min than Felton for 3 years, $10M?

Who is Spears getting his info from, is it Melo? They're friendly.

[xclearscreen]

one thing is clear. no matter what happens, this organization is not totally sold on him as a basketball player.

no, i think they are sold on him. but i don't think they like it very much being made fools (again) by morey. and morey knows this. they are playing right into his hands if they don't stay cool.

[god shammgod]

it would be a bad decision for lin too if we don't match. houston will be an awful team, he's not going to be able to get them to win many games.

[duetta]

my main problem with losing Lin for nothing basically is that he's a huge money maker for the Knicks and he's a big trade chip. Why let assets like that go. Dolan has *never* been cheap in this regard... why start now?

Maybe Grunwald will now try to extract something from Houston to guarantee they don't match.

[king billing]

Eddy Curry made almost 12 millions dollars during the last year of his Knicks contract. He was blasted in the NY media. Jeremy Lin will earn 15 million during his last year. If Lin doesn't live up too expectations, we're looking at Curry part 2.

He probably won't be a Fat Toad but a Skinny Toad

[K_ick_God]

it would be a bad decision for lin too if we don't match. houston will be an awful team, he's not going to be able to get them to win many games.

True. But Lin and Dwight would be the start of something big.

[suicidedeuce]

one thing is clear. no matter what happens, this organization is not totally sold on him as a basketball player.

No clear at all.

The classic mistake everyone makes in these situation is assuming because you (third person) don't know what the KNicks plan to do, or why they plan to do it, that the Knicks don't know what they're doing and why.

We assume because we're uncertain, and because the situation seems to waver, that the Knicks are uncertain, wavering or hedging.

That's not necessarily true.

The Knicks may be planning to match, and they may have been planning to all along.

[Bill Bradley]

Only thing that makes sense is Dolan getting personally offended.

What a nightmare if that's what is going on lol.

I believe that's true and that he probably has Isiah/Woodson in his ear saying that we are better off with Felton and Kidd.

But things can cool down in 3 days and that also gives us time to see the MSG stock take a dip. I have a feeling that in the end cooler heads will prevail and Dolan will relent and begrudgingly match Lin. Then the fun begins with Lin in a toxic environment.

[god shammgod]

I don't love CJ but wouldn't you rather him at the vet min than Felton for 3 years, $10M?

Who is Spears getting his info from, is it Melo? They're friendly.

the money doesn't bother me. in fact it helps. it's more money to trade in the future and that contract is easily trade-able.

[Quick Kick]

This is also a Woodson call. You can tell he has no faith in Lin due to his complete lack of playoff experience. He could be afraid of Lin choking big time in a crucial moment. I guess he feels more comfortable with proven playoff failures like Felton than unproven ones.

[knicks742]

it would be a bad decision for lin too if we don't match. houston will be an awful team, he's not going to be able to get them to win many games.

I wonder what he is thinking. This will be a perfect test to compare the effect a big city has on a person's star potential.

Not matching him is a disaster though. He is a perfectly good asset that we should be getting something for if we are not going to keep him.

[duetta]

There's no reason for the Knicks to be 'totally' sold on Lin. But the money is reasonable averaged over the three years. If the luxury tax payments are a problem, then that's all on previous decisions that management has made.

[K_ick_God]

one thing is clear. no matter what happens, this organization is not totally sold on him as a basketball player.

No clear at all.

The classic mistake everyone makes in these situation is assuming because you (third person) don't know what the KNicks plan to do, or why they plan to do it, that the Knicks don't know what they're doing and why.

We assume because we're uncertain, and because the situation seems to waver, that the Knicks are uncertain, wavering or hedging.

That's not necessarily true.

The Knicks may be planning to match, and they may have been planning to all along.

Spears is usually reliable. There is cause for concern. We can only hope it's a bluff from the Knicks for some reason I can't fathom, or that the reporters are just off the rails. But more are now saying he's gone than that the Knicks will keep him.

[Jay10]

it would be a bad decision for lin too if we don't match. houston will be an awful team, he's not going to be able to get them to win many games.

As long as Jeremy is getting his $25M, I doubt he cares what his supporting cast is going to be.

[Red Vines]

it would be a bad decision for lin too if we don't match. houston will be an awful team, he's not going to be able to get them to win many games.

He seems to have a good relationship with Morey though, and Yao. Lin could grow with their young players.

[god shammgod]

one thing is clear. no matter what happens, this organization is not totally sold on him as a basketball player.

No clear at all.

The classic mistake everyone makes in these situation is assuming because you (third person) don't know what the KNicks plan to do, or why they plan to do it, that the Knicks don't know what they're doing and why.

We assume because we're uncertain, and because the situation seems to waver, that the Knicks are uncertain, wavering or hedging.

That's not necessarily true.

The Knicks may be planning to match, and they may have been planning to all along.

then why bring in 3 other point guards ? c'mon man.

[Brownsville's Finest]

This is also a Woodson call. You can tell he has no faith in Lin due to his complete lack of playoff experience. He could be afraid of Lin choking big time in a crucial moment. I guess he feels more comfortable with proven playoff failures like Felton than unproven ones.

so why go on record saying we resigning lin?

[K_ick_God]

This is also a Woodson call. You can tell he has no faith in Lin due to his complete lack of playoff experience. He could be afraid of Lin choking big time in a crucial moment. I guess he feels more comfortable with proven playoff failures like Felton than unproven ones.

lol